Some Early Observations on P74

I’ve been testing P74 for a couple weeks now. My experience with it at this point is mostly in combination with A314, IH, and with both of those products combined. So keep in mind that I still need to do more solo testing on this molecule. I just haven’t had as many opportunities to test lately because the winter’s been so bad I can’t bring myself to go out as often.

Familiarity

I think one of the main effects I’ve picked up from P74 is an increased sense of familiarity. People respond to me in ways which indicate an exaggerated sense of history between us.

One of the occurrences that really drove this effect home for me took place on the Metra train while I was on the way to some of these various interviews. In two separate cases, the train conductor simply passed by me without ever asking for my ticket. The first time I wondered whether I was ghosting, but after going about my interview and interactions for the day I ruled that out. Then it happened again! And this never happens on the Metra! I think what actually happened was the train conductors felt as though they had already made contact with me. The only reason they would make contact with me would be if they collected my ticket, therefore, they felt no need to ask for a ticket.

I think this is why P74 seems to be such a good fit with IH, since the beta androstenol increases the sense of intimacy, while P74 provides a kind of justification for that intimacy by invoking a sense of context. This can be tested by trying to buffer an excessive amount of IH with P74 around people with whom I am not intimate. If I am correct, then the “too close too soon” effect of excess IH should be eliminated. If anyone else would like to test this theory, I’d love to hear about it!

Comfort/Settling

This goes along with my other-effect experiences. I have a light paranoia built into my personality dynamics (which are primarily based around schizoidal and narcissistic defenses, with some obsessional components, in case anyone is versed in psychoanalytic theories of personality. If not try Nancy McWilliams’ book Psychoanalytic Diagnosis for a fascinating read.) P74 takes the edge off of interactions in such a way that my feelings of trust are not necessarily increased, but I have instead an increased sense that I know what is going on. This puts me at ease and makes it easier for me to be flexible in my interactions. This molecule could therefore be a great antidote for “analysis paralysis” in professional projects.

It also has a lot of promise for building rapport in psychotherapeutic situations. In that context there is also a chance that P74 could either foster transference reactions or prevent them; I’m not really sure which :slight_smile:

My regular readers will already know that P74 has become a staple in my interview mix (see this report and this report).

Great observations.

Some of the mixes here, (ICM) have had P74 and Bnol in it to create a good bonding effect.

I like P74 for the rapport it gives.

How many mcgs were you wearing to come to this finding, DB?

What you playing with (mcgs), PStang?

Thanks!

Ah, great question! These results are from tests in the 5-20mcg range. I still need to test higher doses to see if there is a qualitative or quantitative difference in effect at higher mcg levels.

7.5-22.5mcg

Usually do 15mcg though

I’m actually testing this at work right now for the first time. Wimpy first spray +1 full spray 7.5 mcg/spray. Considering I’ve been sick the last 4 days and this is my first day back, I feel great. I also feel unusually talkative, moreso than when I’m wearing IO even. Liking what I see so far but I’m getting the feeling it could become distracting at higher doses.

I feel a little more in tune with customers than usual. Normally there’s a little bit of awkwardness with some people when our communication styles don’t match. Things seem a little more fluid today than they normally are. Too early to say, but those are my initial impressions.

The extra talkativeness might come from a slight mood boost. I personally get some great self-effects from this stuff. I’m a big fan of this putative and use it quite often. It works great as a stand alone as well as with some beta-nol and
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I think this is why P74 seems to be such a good fit with IH , since the beta androstenol increases the sense of intimacy, while P74provides a kind of justification for that intimacy by invoking a sense of context. This can be tested by trying to buffer an excessive amount of IH with P74 around people with whom I am not intimate. If I am correct, then the “too close too soon” effect of excess Instant Honesty should be eliminated. If anyone else would like to test this theory, I’d love to hear about it!

Yea dbot this might be a good thing to try. I don’t think the effect could be completely eliminated but who knows.

My experience when trying to tame some of the more negative parts of molecules has been that certain other molecules could minimise the negatives to some extent, but it would be extremely difficult to eliminate the negatives completely. I think that’s what Androtics and Michael already do with products like IH - they try to minimise the negatives and accentuate the positives to get the best effect for the user.

Anyway keep up the posts - I am not a regular reader of yours but so far you definitely have brought an interesting approach here…

Thanks Visionary! I was inspired recently by reading one of MHarris’ early posts about creating mixes as a way of “debugging” the problems with a certain molecule whose most positive features you would like to express. It may be that a secondary and even tertiary set of steering molecules may be needed to achieve Instant Intimacy.