So yesterday I think I OD’d on the nols. I sprayed on 3 sprays of IO and 3 sprays of IH. Also used a little A314, A1, and IShine just to see what would happen. Well what happened was mostly nothing. There were no adverse reactions but also no hits or even hints of hits. I just felt like people treated me the same as they always do. I even had an impromptu date with a girl what SHOULD’VE turned sexual but it just didn’t happen (it’s too bad it wasn’t a planned date or I would’ve used a mix more sexual and reliable…oh well).
The only thing I could see that caused this are the 3 IO and IH sprays. Even though one is alpha nols and the other is beta nols, are they close enough in chemistry to be able to OD with each other? I’ve had 3 sprays on before and was still able to see effects, but this equivalent of 6 sprays might be too much.
Today I went with a light combo of 1 A314 + 1 A1 + 2 IShine. It seemed to work pretty well. People were very respectful to me without being too standoffish. It seems like a good combo for day to day wear. Not sure if there’s much potential for attraction outright with this though.
I was running errands most of the day and noticed that customer service people engaged me in conversations and were very respectful to me. Once I accidentally cut in front of this man in the checkout line and when I realized my mistake I apologized and tried to give him his place back but he was like, “no it’s fine, it’s fine” and let me go ahead of him. Interesting.
Finally I was reading one of Mharris’s old threads where he mentioned that repeated use of the same combo of mones will dull the intensity of the effects. This applies to self-effects as well as effects on those that we see regularly.
My question is how often do you guys wear mones? How often do you switch up the combos? And if, for example, I wore the same combo everyday but saw different people everyday, would that lessen the effect at all?
Thanks for your insights. I’m having a blast playing with these wonderful things.
Thaaaaaaats a lot of nols there. Personally I don’t see the point of combining IO and IH to begin with. I’ll use IO if I want fun light hearted small talk with a lot of people, like at a party of something. I use IH for work, sales and one on one situations with a female to increase the sense of trust and connection. Both products are already pre buffered with each other anyway.
IO has 30% beta nol to prevent the conversation from being too mind numbingly inane…and IH has 30% alpha nol to get them to feel chatty in the first place.
I notice you’re a fairly new user, have you tried finding your sweet spot for each individual product or are you just grabbing bottles and trying different combinations at random?
Also what effect overall are you looking for from mones in general? overall dating, a particular girl, respect at work etc.
No not yet. I know I should but this is my first week playing with these and I’m kind of in “kid in candy store” mode right now. I’m sure I’ll buckle down and test each one individually in the future once I settle down a bit.
Actually I’m trying to limit my combos to 2 or 3 right now…
Mostly overall dating but I guess it changes depending on what I’m doing each day. I’m a little worried about wearing mones each day though…I don’t want the effects to dull or wear off over time. Do you think that’s a problem?
Personally I haven’t, but I’ve changed my sig a little for short periods now and then. Not so much out of concerns over desensitizing but simply because I want to experiment with a new product. I think that once you realize what each product does, and figure out how each one can help you with what you’re looking for, you can find a basic go to mix that becomes your core everyday signature. As long as you’re fairly congruent with what your mones are saying the impression they make will be lasting.
IE if you wear A314 to work for a while and conduct yourself like a confident dominant alpha male, that image will be accepted as real from the people around you. I doubt that if you wear it every day for a year they’ll get so used to it that they lose the respect the A314 helped you gain. You’ll still be seen as alpha, you just won’t have that initial hard hit when the signal actually gets them for the first time.
Look at it like this, your favorite team wins the championship, you’re happy, excited, sporting your colors, rubbing noses in it when you see fans of a rival team etc…now fast forward a couple of months, are you no longer happy or proud that your team won? Of course you’re still happy, and if the issue came up in conversation you’d still express your fandom and support, but it’s not the latest news anymore so you stop bringing it up and you go on about your life.
Now if you want to change I advise subtle changes that won’t cause people to see you as consistent or congruent.
Let’s consider a basic mix of A314, Ammo, Instant Shine and IO.
Tweeking the ratios for one is good, more A314 and less Ammo at work, more Ammo and less A314 for parties/clubbing etc.
Another tactic is partial/total substitutions. Say switch from 2 drops of A314 to 1 drop with one spray of IG for a little while
Or switch the IO to IH,
Maybe add a single shot of TuTH to go with the single shot of Ammo.
Your basic sig is always in a general zone
A rone base, some none, some nols, and a little TAA. but subbing/one rone product for another either partially like described with A314 and IG, or totally like with the IO.IH example will keep it somewhat fresh without making it seem like you’re a different person every couple of weeks.
Great analogy Radman. I think I understand now. Thanks.
I never even thought about a consistent pheromone signature but it makes sense. In fact, I bet that might’ve been part of the problem with the date last night. The mix I wore when I met her and the one I wore yesterday were completely different. I imagine it must be like meeting Heidi Klum at a bar and when she comes over to your place a day later she’s turned into Rosie O’Donnell.
I think as a base I’ll use A314 + Ammo (when it arrives) + IS…(and maybe some A1?). Ammo has anols, bnols, and none right? So then I can add in more IO, IH, or TUTH as the situation calls for and still keep a pretty steady sig.
For me, I’ve found for work I use 3 drops of A314 so if I wanted to change it up I;d do 2 drops with a single spray of IG.
Then for going out I cut back to 2 drops alone
Then 2 sprays of either double strength Ammo, or 1 spray each of double strength Ammo and double strength TuTH.
For going out it’s 2 sprays Ammo one spray TuTH,
MX301 may become part of this cycle for my none products
I haven’t used them in a while but I may begin alternating between IH and CTTM2 for work, and IO for going out. Single sprays only
It comes in a bottle with a dropper. I think it’s just A1 dissolved in some alcohol and is a pretty heavy dose. I put a drop on my wrist and rub them together. I got the info from the A1 Guide that’s linked in happytappin’s sig.
Like I said, I’ve never used A1 but from what I hear that’s a lot. There’s a formula somewhere on here for how to dilute A1 into a dosed spray. Find it, and dilute some of that A1 into a bottle of whatever scent you like from the AD store using the formula to dose it into however many micrograms per spray you like.
