Some Testing with A1 & NPA

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Need help - Its been a long time i posted something. Though had been online atleast couple of hours per day and reading every single thread on A1 and NPA.

Ordered A1 & NPA from LS.
Mixed A1 with cover scent - 1:4 ratio
Npa again 1:4 ratio
Planning to test with the following combination - which i found many had got good results.

  • A1 2 Sprays, A314, Ammo

  • NPA 1 spray - This is where I am lost - what should be the ideal mix with this.
    what else could be the ideal combination - More towards creating a crush | sexy or possibly a fallout mix. Idea is to use A1 and A314 as the base
    A1 + A314 + Ammo + IS - I expect more of a sexy comfy output.
    A1 + A314 + bit of NPA - For a more intimate situation ?? - Will it work? or A1 comfy and NPA overt sexiness will kill each other or complement each other?
    A1 + A314 + IS - What can i Expect out of this mix
    A1 + A314 + P86 - I got some not so good response with A314 and P86 - A314 mature signature didn t go well with P86 beautifying properties.
    Experimenting myself is the best way to find but anyone tried any of this mix?
    My interaction will be more with Asians - 20 to 30 years range.

Some help on NPA mix will be much appreciated.

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Oh what a day…

Here is what happened

A1 1 Spray + A314 1 drop + 1 spray ammo..

Lot of IOI but the best was from this one asian who was completely ignoring me for few months - came to me to complement on my shirt .. Though i used to wear this one very often.

After 2 hours - topped with 1 more spray of A1 and bit of AMMO and a very small amount of NPA - 1 more asian - Spent 1 hour talking to me about Nothing!!! lol..

This is in a strict office environment, can t wait to see in a casual outing what this mix does.

and the best part - This is the first time i am using A1 and No depression

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I’ve always found NPA a bit hit or miss around Asians - Even with A1 as a moderator. IMO it can be a bit overt for many of them, although you can get notable exceptions and around Thai women, NPA can be much more effective. Age is also a factor and anything NPA always seemed to hit more mature women much better than young.

A314/A1 however has always been excellent - with the sexual (NPA or others) in third place, more as steering rather than a primary mone.

I tended to mix my NPA/A1 together in a togo with cover scent - OTOH, 1:5, 1:4 and sometimes as high as 1:2.5 with a very robust cologne. A1, different proportions - from @0.5 to 1.5ml into 5ml - giving between 12.5 and 37.5mcg per spray. Mostly I used 0.8 or 1ml - which gave a manageable dose/proportion of both at 2-3 sprays. If you have been reading the threads, you will be getting the exact proportions I used at the time.

Don’t use it so much now but I will still mix-up a togo occasionally just to shake things-up a bit! :smiley:

Dabbing near a cover - sometimes but I’ve always found that much more limited in effectiveness, requiring an environment that helped promote diffusion - e.g. a hot club but much less effective overall in general use. Dabs were also much more prone to breakdown stink compared to mixed.

IMO, NPA does not do so well in a staid/office environment. Its another product that reveals its full glory when people are relaxed and less inhibited. I often used to sex-up a daytime A314-based work mix with a spray or two of NPA/A1 after work.

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wow , thank you for the details - I will reserve NPA for a more intimate time. I will try out with A1, AMMO or A1 IS | IH combination.

One question - The A1 which I received from LS is oil based. Now to dilute this should I use oil based cover or can i go with alcohol based?

The 1ml I mixed yesterday was with alcohol based. So when i spray its more of a Oil + alcohol kind which is sometimes messy. 1 of them even asked why I am sweating in the office

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Its a good idea to push the envelope a little with NPA - It establishes what you can get away with wearing and the sort of doses that work at different times, so don’t rule it out entirely.

One way of doing this is to keep your sexual applications away from other mones - that way you can easily wash/change the application without losing the benefit of other mones.

I’ve never had oil-base A1 from LS. Its always been 1mg/ml in alcohol but I’ve not bought for a while as I’d built-up a stockpile thanks to their various offers. This mixed with cologne no problem but if its similar dose, I don’t forsee any great problems as oils usually mix nicely with alcohol and indeed it may help stem the breakdown a bit, which is useful with A1 and NPA.

If you are using oil directly, I would tend to keep that away from spray app points as spraying over oil can have diffusion issues - the oil pheros tend to burn-off much faster and A1 is actually incredibly well suited to the slowe/steady diffusion of oil and if you suffer the downers, going to oil can help.

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Thanks. I will try the combination in the coming week and lets see how it goes. Have some P83, p86, P75 left out. I can try combining this.

Thankfully I am immune to A1 depression .

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P83 works very well IME but I tend to use P75 as an alternative to Androstenone/sexual products around Asian/Younger women. so maybe try it instead of NPA but keep the dose low around A314 to start with as those two together can get a bit standoffish if the P75 goes too high.

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Tried NPA with a 23 y/o Fillipina. She hated it and wanted me to take a shower. Of course she was on her period.

She told me she goes wild with Axe!

Next time when she’s ovulating, I’ll cover NPA with Axe and report her response.

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Idea was to start on a fallout mix . Lets call the the subject as cutie. Cutie is 25 and Asian - in a relationship with another guy but the relationship is not healthy. I am 30 (Asian)

So cutie and I know each other for 2 years. Spends most of the time (around 8 hours) together (we sit next to each other in office). we can call our relationship as more of “friends with benefits”. Had sex 5 - 6 times.

Touch, Sexual talk, Trust - nothing is a challenge. What was missing is the fallout or the emotional bonding- Yes I want her around me for a longer time.

Day 1 - 2 Drop A314, 1 Spray P83, 2 Sprays of A1

Topped with another 2 spray of A1 and 1 drop of A314 in then noon.
She is in the range of phero the whole time. I mean a lmost 6 hours in a day.

  • She was Silent compared to normal - But didn t saw any discomfort or OD - Some subtle symptoms like few looks and smile.

But lots of IOI and chats from other ladies.

Day 2 - 2 Drop A314, 1 Spray P83 , 2 Sprays of A1

Same - She was silent compared to other days (may be due to work pressure, she had more work these 2 days)

Evening I do a retouch of same compo + a half spray of TUTH. Now she is flirty and talkative the whole time (had just 2 hours with her after that) in the car.

Day 3 - 2 Drop A314, 1 Spray P83 , 2 Sprays of A1 , half spray of p86

Same - She was silent compared to other days - Topped with half a spray of Tuth - same.

What you guys think -

The fallout is not working? or
Is she surprised with the new signature and talking time to adjust (First time I am using A1 around her, though she is used to Tuth, Ammo, A314, P83, P86 around me - She responds well with most of them, Tuth in particular) or
A1 hit is so subtle - it will take more time to see even small change or
Should I use a more stronger combination for a established relationship?

Need help - so much pressure when you find the special ONE and need a fallout to work so badly.

Now my stock of IS, IH is over and waiting for AD to deliver. It will take 1 more week in minimum

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Fallout mixes can often seem unpromising at first - it can take a while for the subject to reconcile their new range of feelings/emotions towards the wearer - esp if they had not been in a place where bonding/paring-up feelings were particularly wanted.

You may need to stick with it for a while yet. Three exposures is nowhere near enough to discern if a fallout is setting-in.

Also do your best to keep your “the one” feelings to yourself and adopt a scarcity mentality around her. Between exposures she needs time to miss you and your signature for the effects to really set-in. So develop some other interest that keeps you grounded. :slight_smile:

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Thank you mobocaster - always you are there to guide.

I will continue with the base mix of A1, A314 and P83.

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New Pheromone Additive (NPA) in the blue bottle you bought at Love Scent is now a more standalone and complete mix which also has 1mg of added alpha androstenol to balance the sexual. It is not to be mixed in cologne at all and is in an oil base. You can always apply something separate as well if you dont think the mix has everything you want.

The NPA concentrate that everyone used to talk about here mixed into colognes or dabbed on is available still but only direct from LACROY and not through Love Scents store anymore. Took about 13 days to get in the USA. It is only available currently I see in a large 15ml size (300 drops). The good news is they finally also made a spray version called NPA Touch that is pre mixed into alcohol for easier application and proper dosing, and has 80 sprays. I see both a scented and unscented version.

NPA concentrate - only at lacroy. Dab or mix with cologne, alcohol based. Made by Lacroy with lacroy pheromones.
NPA Touch scented - only at lacroy. Spray on, alcohol based
NPA Touch unscented - at both lacroy and also at love scent at the moment. Spray on, alcohol based. Both are made by Lacroy and contain Lacroy pheromones.
New Pheromone Additive (NPA) for men blue bottle - A more complete mix in oil rather then a tuth like sexual add on like the others, not to be mixed. Only at Love Scent and the pheromones are from a different supplier then Lacroy, so the performance will be different even beyond the oil and added Anol. I would consider this a totally different product now.

Love Scent and Lacroy ran into difficulties with getting large commercial shipments to the USA, and so Love Scent at this time no longer uses Lacroy for their own manufactured blends anymore, however the owners of both companies are close friends.

NPA already contains a small amount of Androstadienone but the blend is heavy sexual in nature using the A1 for arousal and buffering it seems then heavy fallout/romantic as some A1 containing blends are steered.

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With old NPA, great hits with 2.5 ml Cool Water + 0.6 ml (old) NPA + 0.4 ml A1 (1mg/l) mixed in a togo and spray two times of the front of the tshirt. If it works with the new NPA too, I do not know…

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Yes it would work with the new lacroy NPA alcohol concentrate bought direct from lacroy. As I posted above, NPA Touch they also sell is already mixed in alcohol and ready to spray which you could potentially get unscented and add some scent to it if desired or layer your scent. NPA from LS is an oil with added alpha androstenol, not meant to be mixed at all and I consider that a different product entirely now.

If you werent aware, Androstadienone (A1) is already in NPA. Around 0.5 mg per 5ml of concentrate or 12ml touch. Over 80 sprays in touch might be around 6.25 micrograms per spray.