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You know, your observation is very interesting, I remember wearing TAL at 10mcg twice at the gym - and on both occasions I could smell copulins coming off women from a distance - I have to revisit this.

Interesting, let me know how that turns out! It has been pretty consistent and repeatable for me but I’d be interested to know if it’s a widespread phenomenon. I wonder if this would be good or bad for pheros? If it causes people to be able to pick out background scents better it might make cover scents less effective. Then again, I also have suspicions that pheromones are not acting entirely through simply smell - although I’m no endocrinologist, biologist, or really even a scientist except of the mad variety.

Hmmm, and of course it didn’t occur to me before, but if it is a widespread side effect I wonder if it has the same effect in women? Or people with a different genetic makeup? Hey Still18 - are you caucasian? (Also what molecule is that profile pic?)

No, I’m not caucasian - it’s Androstenone :slight_smile:

Nice! I figured it was something along those lines but I wasn’t sure. :smiley:

Got an order of P83 a couple of days ago. Decided to try it out two nights in a row by itself. First night, a situation happened - completely threw off my results, no useful data. Tonight, however, I decided to go ahead and wear it out at a local bar. I never go to bars so this seemed like a good chance to be around a lot of people.

And it was! I made eye contact with and smiled at a cute, half-asian girl as she was coming out to the bar’s patio area, and she and a number of her friends came over and talked to my friend and I. Not necessarily a big deal, I did make eye contact and smile after all. But after some small talk the band came on, so the girl and her friends all turned to face the other direction for the act. After a little while, they had all backed up to within 6 inches of me, basically all just huddled around me. One of the girls kept looking over her shoulder, giving me the “smoky eyes” look. The timing wasn’t right for me to pursue anything, but it was definitely odd. Another particularly odd thing about it - I normally cannot stand people to be in my bubble of personal space. Drives me seriously nuts. This didn’t bother me at all. I wasn’t drinking since I was driving but after spraying 40mcg of p83 on my chest I felt actually pretty buzzed for a while. Sigh, I really need to take all of my records so and consolidate them into a spreadsheet or something.

Oh yes, almost forgot - I had a gentleman come up to me at one point and begin telling me all about his dog. Seriously, all about his damned dog. He was drunk and I was uninterested in his story but I noticed that if I shifted my weight to one side, he swayed that direction. Dude mirrored me like crazy. Oddly enough he was one of the few people who kept their distance, however.

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Oh a side note from my experiments making my own fragrances & cover scents. I had been dissolving essential oils into 95% ethanol (Everclear)

Everclear??

I think maybe you could try perfumiers alchohol, look on e-bay, or do a google search for suppliers. It’s designed for mixing, so no covering aroma to change the original. probably better diffusion than everclear also.

just my tuppence worth :slight_smile:

I am inclined to agree, although many perfumer’s alcohols are simply denatured ethanol, from what I can tell. I was surprised to discover how much of a difference simply diluting the (relatively) pure ethanol made. I’m looking forward to getting a genuine perfumer’s alcohol, though, for sure. It’s on my list. I find that the everclear’s aroma fades pretty quickly.

Since I was making an order anyway today, I decided to go ahead and get some perfumer’s alcohol. So we’ll see about that. Job starts tomorrow (finally!) so I’m excited to see how the A314b works out. Definitely not an environment where I want to be throwing out crazy pheromone signatures all over the place, but something like A314 is going to really help I imagine. And, correspondingly, the job will help me finally afford the purchase of A314 in its oil form - I’ve been eyeing that locked forum category jealously. :smiley:

I wore today 1X A314, 10mcg TAL, 25mcg P74 and went to the gym, again I smelled copulins off a woman when she passed me by at the reception of the gym and the scent was so obvious I wondered if nobody else smelled it, also I noticed perfume scents strongly coming off women on the street from a few feet away.

I wear 5mcg TAL at the club all the time and I don’t notice a smell enhancement and I never smell copulins, I guess you need to wear a higher dose of at least 10mcg to notice - the problem is TAL and Androstenone don’t go that well together, it makes women bitchy, angry and violent if TAL is too high.

I’ll give TAL a run solo at a high dose at the club and see what it does, it would be awesome if it makes detecting ovulating women much easier so you just approach the ovulating ones that are producing copulins :slight_smile:

It could be all a coincidence, but it’s worth a run - to be continued…

It’s difficult for me to modify the amount of TAL I use too much, as I have a 12.5mcg spray and have to do maths in order to work out an appropriate dilution. :slight_smile:

That said, 12.5mcg is awfully high for me as a male. People seem to be a little confused. One woman said I seemed oddly effeminate that day the last time I wore a full spray. Another said I seemed “grounded, but like in a weird way” - for whatever that’s worth. A314 mitigates it to some degree but I believe I have somewhat high natural -rone levels. Not absurdly so but I do have to be careful with it. I can do about 2 sprays of A314b if I buffer it well, any more than that and people act strange, don’t make eye contact, start to clear the space around me, etc. A full spray of TAL doesn’t seem to affect this at all, so it certainly isn’t balancing that out. I’m not really surprised, I wasn’t exactly expecting it to, but if anything it can kind of make that effect slightly worse - only at high doses of a -rone signature to begin with though thus far. Haven’t tried it with a high -none signature, but that doesn’t sound like fun. I may try it when I’m going out for pure data collection again.

MixCalculator is very handy to calculate dilution, you can get it from here: Mix Calculator 15.0

Can’t run it on Ubuntu, or I couldn’t before. WINE just craps it out immediately. If I ever set things up to dual-boot again I’ll give it a whirl.

I see, there’s a web-based version of it as well: Web Based Mix Calculator and Phero Profiler

Oh wow, don’t know how I missed that. Thanks a quadrillion!

P130 is confusing stuff. I have to be super careful with it because of that aforementioned headache effect, but I find myself liking it more and more despite that. Too much sometimes makes me highly irritable, and I still can’t put my finger on what exactly it is doing the rest of the time. But when it works it’s great. Makes some of my female friends just rattle on to the point of saying things like “oh my god, why am I talking so much? I’m just rambling,” and it does seem to give me the appearance of being a bit younger.

On the other hand, along with the headaches that it gives me (and apparently at least one of my new coworkers, more on her in a future post) it can make me irritable as hell, like I was saying. Or more to the point impatient. It brings things to the surface, in a different way than b-nol. If it was available in the store I think I would try to get it in 7.5mcg instead of 12.5, or maybe 10mcg. I suspect the 12.5 sprays are simply too much for me, simple as that. Oh and also I notice that if I use it with IS the headache is almost guaranteed - a megadose of TAA has been known to do that to me as well so I wonder if maybe it has some sort of enhancing property at least to some degree. :confused:

Interesting results on P130.

I am inclined to try out P75 and P130. They seem to have opposite effects on me. P130 is laid back and cool, P75 is Alpha and primal. Combine them and maybe you remove the passivity of P130 and make it more sexual.

I get the cool guy vibe from P130. Its almost like people respect you but do not want to admit it, and it gets good results from the opposite sex when they are in the impressionable age ranges.

There is a certain detached nature to the effects of P130, yeah. When I’m irritable or impatient it’s more “I don’t give a fuck, I’m going to say what’s on my mind” than “Gah everything is driving me crazy!” I would like to find something that really enhances that or has a similar effect - there are times when I would like to be able to step outside a situation more.

I think, if I recall correctly, P79 gave me an enhanced feeling for what mone I was using.

I think the “I dont care, lets just do this” vibe of 75 and 130 will be my nexy club mix to kill any self doubt and hesitation.