Somerset's Journal for Older Guys in the Business World

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Ok, so I think I’ll give the journal thing a try. I see lots of active journals for people younger than myself, but not so much for guys in their 50’s. (I know there are a couple out there, but I can’t easily tell which ones.)

Personal: I am 56 years old. I’ve reached the age where I have that “dignified” greying hair. And I’ve reached a level of prosperity that allows me to dress well when I need to. I can still wear fitted shirts, so I haven’t expanded my waistline as much as many of my contemporaries. I’m in pretty decent physical condition for my age.

Nationality: Texan.

Ethnicity: Caucasian.

General: I’m a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forced (back in the early 80’s), and I’m told that I have a rather military bearing. I don’t aim for that, really, but people seem to pick-up on the Vet status without my saying anything about it.

Long Term Aim: Professionally, I’m a highly specialized purchasing manager. In fact, the degree of my specialization has made for a very interesting career, but is also VERY limiting in my upward mobility. I’ve reached the point where the words, “Director” or “Vice President” in my title might be rather appealing (not to mention the appeal of the elevated pay grades a decade before retirement). So the primary aim is to influence people around me on a regular basis - particularly those in levels of management above me - and to help with prospective job interviews if I decide to move for a better chance at a title change.

Short Term Aim: I am new with the company that I work for, so my actions are being questioned regularly. People don’t know me or my style (which is radically different than others that have done this job). I need to mitigate some of these questions and objections. I have several critical meetings coming up in the next few months. In these, I need to shine in every way iShine can manage. I also have a major conference in Vegas in mid-June, and a convention to attend in mid-July. All of these need to go VERY well. These two events are also very important.

Situation: I have 15 people above me in the org chart (my boss reports to the division president, so I’m 2 levels below the main guy, but there are a variety of other directors and VPs above me). Of those 15 people, 10 are women, so influence here is critical. Of the five men, two are weak but in high levels of authority and influence (classic “yes-men”), one is a “good 'ole boy” that seems to really know his stuff, one is self-described as a “douchebag”, and one just simply don’t give a damn anymore. Of my colleagues in the highly specialized area of purchasing that I work in, but outside of my company, about 70% are females (I know it’s an oddly high percentage, but it’s true - the glass ceiling in my world is made of balsa wood).

I am not aiming at anything sexual - hence my starting this journal, really. Most of the others that I’ve seen have been more focused on sexual attraction or testing new mixes and formulae. Don’t get me wrong - interest from the opposite sex is not something that my male ego would ever shun, but it’s neither the main thing, nor the secondary thing, and is only barely on the radar. I do work in a world dominated by women, so having a certain degree of attraction isn’t a bad thing so long as it doesn’t get beyond that “certain” level.

I have:

A314 oil, Rev32
iShine oil and spray
iHonesty oil and spray
P96 oil
Tuth Spray

And that’s likely all I’m going to use. So far in my testing, these have worked. I’m going to have to pickup some more iS and iH spray before long.

Any advice along the way would be appreciated.

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This is something I posted on the general forum a few weeks back. It was the first real reaction I’ve had.

Hi all,

I wonder if anyone could tell me if this is “normal”. I’m still new at these mixes, and this was kinda odd.

I’m 56, male, white.

I’ve been trying to sort out the dosage of A314 recently, but today had a couple of out-of-the-office meetings. I decided to experiment. These were not critical meetings, so I figured it was a good opportunity to test things out. Here’s what I did -

3 drops of A314 oil. 1 behind each ear, one split between both wrists.
2 sprays of IS at the elbows.
1 spray of IH at the base of the neck.
The sprays are all from to-go bottles, and I’m not sure how many mcg they might be.

1st meeting - Nothing. had close conversation with 1F, late 30’s (Hispanic, I think, but it was hard to tell). Other not so close interactions with a mix of M & F, all in their 40’s and 50’s. Nothin’.

Retail stop - 2M, 1F, all mid-20s. Nothing. But I’m pretty sure the F was pregnant and that may have “thrown her off the scent”, so to speak.

2nd meeting - had conversations with a mix of people, but three stood out. Two were blonds, one mid 20’s, one early 30’s. The conversations were close enough that they would have been in the cloud. Nothing. I only mention these two because of what happened later. There were also other scattered conversations with M & F, ages varied into 50’s. Nothing.

But the waitress I had reacted very oddly. She was very young - maybe 22 at most (really, I’d give even odds she was 19 or 20). She was white and a very dark brunette. I’ve never seen the deer-in-the-headlights reaction until today. I ordered a drink and she spaced in the middle of the order and I had to repeat it (and all I asked for was water with just a little ice). Then she couldn’t make change for a $20 when she brought me the drink; I had to help her through counting the change. Then she started talking and didn’t stop for a good 30 or 40 seconds. In the middle of all that, she starts twirling her hair and her pupils dilate. She lingered some time more than she probably should have as well. Then she went off to other tables. I talked to her again later and she was starting to withdraw. By the time I left, she was distant and almost aloof; I’d almost say embarrassed, but at that point I didn’t talk to her long enough to get a good read.

(And just for the record, I wasn’t trying to have any “game” with her at all. I didn’t actually think I’d be talking to her for more than the time it took to order a drink. And I have a daughter her age, so it was all a little weird when it’s so unexpected.)

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Sounds like she might have been struggling to reconcile her instinctive physical reaction to the mones with her conscious preference for guys in their 20s or 30s.

I have a strange feeling of deja vu reading your post - maybe you posted it somewhere else here on Ptalk and someone else has already replied to it…

The people who could answer your question much better than I can are people like mobocaster, Justintime, Celtic Prince, 1alpha and various others. You could post it in the main “Men’s Pheromone Advice, Tips and Tricks” area for increased exposure.

Interesting how mones hit some people a lot harder than others. And different mixes hit some people harder than other mixes.

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Hi Tonyman,

Yeah, I’d posted it on another board, as I put at the top of this one. I just wanted it to be recorded here too. I thought it would be more convenient.

Somerset

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Yep. That’s one way of journaling. In the future, as the number of threads you’ve started grows, the best way to check all of those notes is by going into your journal, where the very same notes were copied into. :slight_smile:

I’m subscribing! :slight_smile:

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I am totally subscribing to and great start!

You actually got about the perfect ones to start with for your goal. I am 37, but more my specialty is the 40+ age range as this is primarily what I work with, really 50-60 is where for me my mixes really standout and I tend to wear heavier status/sexual mixes for this age range.

For your goal and A Must is to first find your best dose for the A314 as this will be your primary mone for everything you described and this is the very first place I would start.

Then I would actually test your TUTH solo and I would test in environments outside of work and where you can afford to mess up a little like just using in public while maybe getting some groceries or something like this. No worries if you OD a little on this one being at your age it is much harder to do and a back up plan if this does happen is use your P96 and it should help smooth thing out for you if OD does happen.

Now I suggested to test the TUTH because I have found it actually very valuable for day to day use when used in low doses along with my A314 and it actually works much better than just using A314 solo for respect and slight attraction from the women. What happens here is the rest of the stuff in the A314 helps the TUTH not be so much of a direct sexual and makes it useable for day to day use. My very best solo dose for A314 is 3 drops and what I did was dial it back to 2 drops and I use 1 spray regular TUTH(not the heavy or 2X version). What I like is it gives the A314 much more power instead of just more status and I get much more respect from everyone with slight attraction from the women which I have found is important because they are more inclined to do what I ask in a professional world. A very important note though about TUTH is that it does have a molecule that will amplify everything in a mix to different degrees, so you may have to adjust other things in a mix to get it right slightly, but again with your age it is actually a big plus for you if you use a setup like this. The TUTH is designed as more a direct sexual, but being older it has so many more uses I find and can be used for day to day use, it just has to be used with other things to get the most out of it and to help make it more useable.

The IShine I would definitely be more in favor of the oil because in a mix this is the first one that needs to be reapplied and the oil will last much longer. The IShine will give that impression that you are a man who still has it and can get stuff done and I always also where this one along with my A314/TUTH setup.

IH oil will also prove really valuable as well. I use a single molecule that IH is built around with really good success along with my A314/TUTH/IShine setup. Actually a very typical mix for me so you get an idea is this,

2 drops A314
1 spray TUTH
15MCG P96
5 MCG B-Nol
2 spray IShine

This is something I would wear for just about any environment and situation and it really appeals to more a 30+ crowd.

P96 to me has proved well worth it as I tend to wear the heavier A314/TUTH setup and helps smooth the whole thing over for me. The P96 I use as more for grounding this setup and to make it more useable for a wider age range(This helps make it more useable for the younger crowd for me).

So definitely test the A314 very first. It really is best to solo test each thing and log here on the journal your very best dose for each thing so you can look back in case you forget. The I would test the A314 with each thing like A314/TUTH then A314/IShine and so on.

I hope this helps you and if you have any struggles don’t worry as we are here to help each other and you can always PM me also and I will respond.

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I’ve noticed over the past couple of weeks, that there seems to be a long-term impact of the oil based phero’s that I haven’t noticed with the sprays. For example…

I’ve been wearing 3-4 drops of A314 behind the ears and on the throat, 2 drops of iS, and one drop of iH. (I have to be very careful with the iH or it makes me talk too much.) I’ve been wearing this combo for most of the past three weeks, but every other day rather than daily.

I’ve noticed that people that I talk to regularly are responding differently - more positively. They seem to perk-up when they come into my office. They laugh more easily, and things are generally a bit less tense (there are lots of office stress generating things going on right now).

There have also been a couple of points where other managers (both F, one early 50s, one late 30s), have gone WAY out of their way to explain a couple of SNAFU moments in the office that impacted me tangentially.

I’ve also noticed one VP that’s become very chummy (M/early 60s).

And the every-other-day nature of what I’m wearing doesn’t seem to change that.

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Thanks for the in-depth reply. I really appreciate it. I’m still experimenting with the 3-4xA314, 2xiS, 1xiH, but I am looking forward to trying P96 in that mix.

I’ve been avoiding TUTH at work. There is a surprisingly large percentage of women here, and most I do NOT want to attract in that particular way. I may give it a go later, but it would be the last thing I’d test. This place can get very catty at times, and I just don’t think I want the risk at the moment.

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Went for a haircut at a new place on the way home yesterday. Topped off the office mix with two more drops of A314 behind the ears, a drop of iS on the wrists, and I thought I’d try 2 drops of iH on the back of my neck. This was applied maybe six or seven hours after the first dose.

The girl that cut my hair was in her mid-20s, I think. There were no obvious hits, really. She didn’t make any unusual comments, there were no strange moments. She wasn’t particularly honest or talkative.

But I did notice that she had an odd and very subtle grin for most of the time I was there. Then, at the very end, she touched my shoulder ever so briefly, and pulled back like she didn’t mean to. If she was impacted by the pheros, she did a very good job of not showing it overtly.

And I got a REALLY spectacular haircut!

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Well, I had a bit of a spill yesterday. But I thought, what the heck, let’s see what happens.

I had about 5 or 5.5 drops of A314 on me. I tried to soften that with 2.5 drops of IS and 2 drops of IH.

Mild headache. Slight dizziness. A general feeling of being off - not feeling well, but not feeling quite sick either.

I had a meeting about 90 minutes after I dosed myself. The other party was F/early 30’s. She was very stiff the entire time, very distant. She paid very close attention to what I was saying, and was dutifully respectful, but had a very stiff reaction to just about everything.

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After I over dosed and got back from my meeting, I cleaned off as much of the previous dosage as I could. I then went back and re-dosed with 2 drops of A314, 1 drop of iS and one drop of iH.

Bumped into someone that I work with - F/55 - in the hall. We’re working on a project, so it became an impromptu meeting and we went back to my office to discuss a few of the details. When I’m wearing the office mix, she tends to linger in my office longer than is comfortable. One day, she stayed about 15 minutes longer than necessary. Yesterday, as we were discussing the project, she started twirling her hair, and lingered about 10 minutes more than she should have.

All that’s interesting. I had no “game” on. It’s not something where an overt sexual was used, so she must be more interested in the “authority figure”.

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I am finding that sometimes with A314 solo that some women 40+ can be tuned into the signature all by itself, so this may happen time to time with it. That is why I typically oversteer my A314/TUTH setup a little to tone it down.

Other than this situation that happened with this woman, how are you liking everything so far with your pheromone journey?

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Good morning, Justintime,

For the most part, yes. I’ve tinkered with the mix a bit, and I think 3 drops of A314, 2 of iS, and 1 of P96 or iH is probably what I’ll stick with for an office mix now. 4 drops of A314 is a bit of overkill. I can manage it, it seems, but it seems to need more moderation with some people I work with. I may try 4 of A314, 2 of iS, and 2 of P96 or 2 of iH one of these days. Maybe the 2 drops of P96/iH will moderate things enough that 4 will work.

Well, why wait. I just put on 3 of A314, 2 of iS, and 2 of P96. No time like the present, eh?

But in general, yes, I think they’ve been quite helpful. And as I said, I anticipate some critical meetings over the next few months, so I hope to have this testing done before June when they start. And a merger was announced last week, and that means I’ll also have to fight to keep my job, so the nature of the thing got a bit more intense a few days ago.

Thanks for writing.

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Had a REALLY critical and short notice conference call today. Critical in that it might have a serious bearing on whether or not I survive a recently announced merger. I have to admit that I was quite nervous. I actually had butterflies in my stomach and had trouble focusing my thoughts.

I put a drop of iS under my nose, and took a couple of very deep whiffs over the bottle just before the call began. It was really amazing. The nervousness subsided almost immediately. The news on the call was partially good, partially not so good. But even with the bad news, the iS seems to have evened out the emotions.

I do have a bit of a headache now, and am quite tired, but ultimately the call went pretty well for this stage of the game.

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Had an interesting meeting yesterday. This was with a vendor that was really rather full of himself the last time I met him. He actually was rather arrogant and assured that he had the business regardless of the reality. I put on 3 drops of A314 and 2 drops of iS, about 90 minutes before the meeting. I had no game on - I wasn’t trying to be intimidating or forceful. I just talked, and told him my side of the story. Then I just let him go to tell his side.

I spent about 45 minutes talking to him. He was much different than the previous meeting. He was very humble, and listened attentively. He responded to all my questions with what seemed to be honest interest in doing a good job and making the relationship work.

It’s hard to put this into words, really, but it was a remarkable turnaround. I honestly thought seriously about third-party-auditing the financial aspects of our agreement over the past few years, and then ditching this vendor completely. But now I’m going to let things play out a bit longer, and see where they lead. As I said, it was a remarkable turnaround.

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An interesting meeting.

A group of my peers were together for a semi-regular meeting today. 20 Fs ranging in age from early 30’s to mid-60’s. 2 other Ms, both mid-50’s.

I had 4 drops of A314 behind the ears, 2 sprays of iS at the base of the throat, and 2 sprays of iH on the wrists.

There was actually almost no reaction from the females in the room. At least, there was nothing obvious that I picked-up on.

However, I got coffee behind one of the other men in the room, so he was in my cloud for a few seconds. This happened to be the guy doing the 45 minute presentation to the entire group. Interestingly, he spoke while looking directly at me for almost the entire presentation. The only time be broke eye contact with me was when I broke with him first to take a sip of coffee or take notes. It was almost as if he aimed the entire presentation at me.

There was some discussion before the presentation began, and he was taking notes. So it’s very possible that he picked-up on something I said that made him aim most of his talk at me directly.

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Good hit. He’s trying to impress you. :slight_smile:

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I agree your pheromones hit him and really hard and this guy and he was looking to you like you are the CEO and decision maker and a total sign of respect and authority.

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The Conference - Day 1

I’m at a conference in Las Vegas. It’s being held at one of the biggest casino/resorts in town. The place is huge. I think it’s a full half mile walk from my room to the conference center.

Day 1 was yesterday. I didn’t have time to write anything here at the time.

Yesterday was really a travel day. I wanted to test the effects of 'mones in the confined spaces of an airplane.

I wore:
4 drops A314
2 drops iS
2 drops iH

This is my usual work mix.

Absolutely nothing on the airplane. Not a hit of any kind that I could discern. In the lottery of airline seat assignments, I was placed next to a guy going to the same event. And on the other side of the aisle was a woman also going to the same thing. Both in their early 40s. Not a hint of noticing.

I had a black car transfer from the airport to the hotel. The driver, who is normally very respectful of his clients, I’m sure, was very respectful towards me as well. I don’t know that this is really a hit, but he was nice.

The hotel staff was also very attentive. They gave me a room that had been smoked in, so I went down to the front desk to straighten it out. The girl I talked to was obviously distressed by my room problems. I think that was a positive hit, but by this time it had been almost 4 hours since I dosed-up, and she was never closer than 4 feet. She was in her early 20s. There were no other hits with her.

That was about it for Day 1.

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The Conference - Day 2

This was a fascinating day from a 'mones point of view.

I started off with the usual work mix, and got nothing all day. I dosed in the morning after a shower. I had a 90 minute break late in the afternoon, and took a shower then. I reapplied after that shower. I went to the afternoon sessions. Nothing. Not an obvious hit in any respect.

So this evening, I thought I’d try a little experiment.

I noticed that I’m suffering from exposure to cigarette smoke. You have to go through the casino to get to the elevators. You have to go through the casino to get to the restaurants. You have to go through the casino to get to the conference center. You have to go through the casino to do just about anything. After two days of this, my eyes are red and burning, my throat is scratchy, and I feel like I’ve got sinus issues coming on. So there is a MAJOR competition in odors here. So, it’s the battle of the 'mones vs. severe cigarette smoke.

I should point out that I was quite well dressed for this test. I had on a very nice pair of slacks and a very well done shirt, and some top-notch dress shoes. And for the first couple of forays into the casino, I had on a very nice blue blazer. I clean-up nicely, as they say.

I didn’t wash off anything from earlier in the day, but I’m now about 4 hours after the last dose. So…

First dose: 2 drops A314, 1 spray TUTH, 2 drops iH, 1 spray iS, and one drop iS. All were applied in different areas, so the two of iS wouldn’t interfere with one another.

Second dose, 5 hours later: 2 more drops of A314, 1 more spray of TUTH, 1 drop iH, 1 drop iS.

I walked the casino for an hour. Nothing. not any indication that I was noticed. I’d stand behind people for several minutes, watching the games. I was there long enough that they’d have been in my cloud and noticed under normal circumstances. Nothing.

Third dose, 2 hours after dose number 2: Two more drops of A314, 1 more spray of TUTH, 1 more drop each of iS and iH.

I walked the casino again for an hour (this is a fascinating people-watching place!). Still nothing.

Fourth and final dose, 2 hours after dose 3: At this point, I’m not even sure how much I’m wearing. With the degrading effect over time, I’m probably wearing something like 6-8 drops of A314, 3 sprays of TUTH, 4-5 drops of iS, and 4-5 drops of iH.

No OD self-effects at all. I honestly can’t smell anything anymore because of the effect that the smoke has had on me personally. Well, there was one self-effect - the areas where the A314 and TUTH were applied have become itchy.

This is where the fun began. I walked the casino again (I think I could have done 5 full miles in the casino this evening). I stood behind women mainly, but just stood behind the various games and watched as I walked from table to table. There were a couple of interesting hits.

One young woman - EXTREMELY attractive and wearing a slinky dress - blond and in her early 20’s. She was with someone, but sitting a little away from him. I stepped between them and just watched. She was well within my cloud. This part of the casino had a bit less cigarette smell, and she was not smoking. After about 2 minutes she suddenly turned her body directly toward the table - she had been leaning away. Originally I was at her 5 o’clock, so she’s turned to where I’m now at her 3 o’clock position. After just a few seconds, she steps away from the table. about 2 feet. Still not far, but it was a sudden move and seemed oddly forced. I turned toward her, and pointed my left foot in her direction. She stood in that place for a few seconds, and then stepped back to the table. She stayed there for a few seconds, then stepped back two feet again. I reinforced my foot pointing at her and turned my torso toward her slightly. She shifted her weight from one foot to the next several times, then moved quickly back to a chair at a slot machine, about a dozen feet away. I shifted my foot to point at her again, and slightly turned my torso toward her. She sat there staring at her phone. Finally, the great oaf she was with (how a stunning blond like this was with a great thundering troll like that is absolutely beyond me, and strikes me as being unfair on a cosmic level), noticed that she’d stepped away and said, “I guess you’re not my good luck mojo tonight.” She buried herself in her phone. I stood there for a few minutes, glancing at her once in a while, and I’m sure she noticed, then I left. I don’t think she was uncomfortable with me exactly, as she maintained eye contact a couple of times with a certain degree of confidence, but she certainly wanted to get out of the cloud.

Next I found an exceptionally attractive brunette in a slinky white dress. I did the same kind of thing with her. I stood behind her and her boyfriend for several minutes. Both would have been in my cloud. She was probably in her early 30s. Here the cigarette stink was strong, and she was smoking. After a few minutes, she started to fidget. She started out at my 10 o’clock position at about three feet away. Then she suddenly got up and moved to my 3 o’clock position about 5 feet from me, so she moved from one side to the other and put a little distance between us. Then she pointed her foot at me, and turned toward me. I couldn’t see her eyes, and it was dark enough that I couldn’t see her skin reaction. Then, just as suddenly, she moved back to sit next to her boyfriend.

I wandered around a bit, and moved to another table. I stood there for about 10 minutes watching blackjack. It was a mixed group of men and women, ranging from 30 to maybe 45. No reaction there, but when I decided to move one, I noticed two gay guys that looked me up and down as I walked away. It never occurred to me that this might work on males as well as females. I figured it would be an entirely different scent signature.

I then went back to the craps table and saw a really attractive woman in her late 30s or early 40s. She was really hot, and under other circumstances I might have been sorely tempted by this one (we’ll call her the temptress). She was standing next to another attractive late-20s blond standing on her left, who happened to be very tall. to her right was a 20-something body builder male. They seemed to all be here for a different conference. I stood behind them for a time, and got no reaction from any of them. The temptress turned around at one point and noticed that I was there, but there was absolutely no reaction. I moved around the table very slowly until I was on the opposite side. I made eye contact with here a couple of times, but made clear that I was watching the game (I gotta figure out how craps works some day). She didn’t react in any way, but I did notice that her nipples were just beginning to show, and then I noticed the same from the tall blond. At this point, they were the length of a craps table away from me, and there’s no way they were in my cloud. I’d even bet that they didn’t know it was me standing behind them earlier. So this may not have been a hit at all. The “excitement” also happened to be when The Temptress was throwing the dice, so it might well have had more to do with that than anything else.

Now, at this point, it’s been about an 18 hour day, so I"m going to crash. More tomorrow. There will be two social receptions tomorrow evening - well away from the casino - and I’ll report back then. And I’m beat enough that I’m not even going to take the time to proof this - sorry.

More tomorrow, or as time permits.