Well "cheese: is half the term Tisha uses to describe it. I think the cheese vs. fruit deals more with your nose than the version althoug I could be wrong.
Funny story - but having a daughter I am not sure I want to explore this last paragraph too far - lol.
Thanks guys! 
I’m glad it amused you…cause it cracked up my sister too sigh too bad she isn’t interested in the world of pheros.
Bosshanks: lol, I get’cha! When my dad started asking questions about my new so called perfume…I was stumbling to explain what eow was lol. I ended up making scientific shit about it, that my dad got bored and was like, whatever just share it with you mom too…and I ended up giving some of my mix!!! God, I don’t want to know what’s happening with those two anymore!
That’s an amusing story… more reps on the way 
I think one of the “rotten” smells in copulins/EoW comes from the indoles in there, and the indoles contribute to the effect because I got some of the same effects recently- a heavy cloying sensation, sickly sweet.
A few days ago I was working with some synthetic civet musk, playing around with it and seeing what I could do with it. The first thing to say about this stuff is it stinks sort in the way copulins does- only worse. It’s like bad halitosis, cat crap, farts all rolled into one. Not quite the same smell, but civet musk contains skatole, methyl indole, which is similar smelling to the indoles used in synthetic copulins. In high concentrations it smells really bad and stinky. In very low concentrations it smells floral like jasmine- a decadent, sweet, cloying floral scent (BTW, real neroli also contains a small amount of indole, so do alot of other flowers and even some woods). Indeed, jasmine and other indolic smells are used alot in perfumery. Civet oil just happens to be about the strongest, though.
so… if EoW stinks too bad, you are probably wearing too much, perhaps, or your nose isn’t used to it (perhaps you got too big of a whiff of the stuff out of the bottle- that can always scerw up your nose afterwards- everything starts smelling bad). I know I went and tested the perfume I made the next day, giving my nose a rest so everything I smelled didn’t smell like rotten garbage and cat scat, and it smelled totally different. Smelling it straight of the tube it smelled a bit farty or rotten, but when I put it on a blotter and let it dry for a few minutes, it smelled floral and sweet. In the end I decided civet was just too hard to work with, I had it down to 1 percent dilution and it was still too risky- jasmine would be alot safer and stink up the house less. I’ll just double bag the civet and hope the smell doesn’t leak out, I’d hate to throw away even $2 worth of oil.
I think you should get a small atomizer and put a few drops of EoW in there, along with some alcohol (perfumers alcohol is best, but regular drinking booze will work too, so will rubbing/denatured alcohol) and fragrance, figure out how much you get per spray, first, though (fill it up and count the number of sprays)l. I could write an entire post on “mixing” your own atomizer sprays, but I won’t tie up your journal. If the EoW doesn’t totally dissolve into the spray, you can use a small amount of very diluted dishwashing soap in water and add a few drops of that (you need some pipettes extra for all of this), that will help it to dissolve.
Oh that is so cute your Dad suggested it for your Mom. L:DL
Hahaha Daedelus. Have you tried mixing copulins like that? Mixing copulins leads to many mistakes. Even if you think you’ve finally got it right, smell the mix a few days later. Copulins bloom. It does mix better with oil and lotions but there is always that chance that the stink will return. I’ve ruined full 12 oz. bottles of body mist with just a dropperful of eow and have many mistake experiments. One turned out to smell just like a dirty diaper…including diaper contents and baby powder.
It’s just much easier to suffer through the apply and let dry. When I first starting using eow I kept a fan in my closet to keep the smell blowing away from my face.
It works for me. I use a small 5ML atomizer. Of course I only wear a quarter or an eighth of a drop/spray but the principle is the same (and I can sort of smell it even at an eighth of a drop, it’s potent stuff). I also mixed up some for my mom to wear at about a quarter drop per spray, I told her to start off with 1-2 sprays, no more than twice a day. Next time I mix it I’ll probably double the concentration and see what that does. She also has some Instant Sexiness B that I put into an atomizer for her. The Instant Sexiness B definitely contains less copulins, because when she sprays a few sprays of the EoW on I can sense it.
You have to know how many sprays are in the atomizer- fill it up all the way to the normal level with water (the hose and pump always will take up some volume), then spray it and count every spray till it runs dry. Then you know how many drops to put in the bottle using some simple math to get drops/spray. At higher concentrations, the copulins might not mix too well, though, probably several drops per spray.
BTW, Inkling, does copulins cause any self-effects in women? I know it causes self-effects in me. It’s sort of nauseating to work with it, so I always open a window- the similarity to the civet musk is real, though personally I think copulins smells better. It seems to take a few minutes of real exposure in high amounts to have blatant effects and start acting like a pheromone. As Warren noted in one of his posts, there is a bit of a “transgendered” effect if you wear enough female pheromones, like you feel like there is a femininity hanging around you, and as I pointed out in my journal, in large amounts (I actually spilled some once, a small amount), it does seem to make a room feel “feminine”.
Well, let’s see. There are the two of you siblings, your parents are still happily married, and your Dad really wants your Mom to try some of that perfume …
Let’s just say if you go out for the evening with friends don’t come back too early … 
… L L
Hey - we old married folks have a romantic life too ya know.
That has been answered several times, just recently in Ariadne’s unintended consequences of daily pheromone use thread. I’m sure it is different across the board and would be a fairly equal yea/nay if polled.
Personally it doesn’t arouse me or cause any noticeable feeling unless I am pre or menstruating. Then I am more likely to be wimpy/weepy.
Sorry to to hijack your journal Ms. Selva!
Daedelus76: Thank you for your wonderful advice on the eow! it helped so much, wow you’re so informative! I’ll definately try the atomizer sprays, with the eow! muah!
bosshank: LOL! yea, I ended up dragging my sister with me to the cinema and had dinner at midnight and silently came back home and went to bed, the next morning my parents were cuddling in the sofa! and it’s fricken 10am LOL (and they’re usually early birds, 6am and work on something around the house!) and I’ve never seen that in 10 years! But hey, atleast they’re getting back to their romantic life now-a-days I guess
Don’t worry about it hun!
Latest report on mx235 (the one with the cookie scent )
Yesterday, before going to school, I had to meet my tg hehe so I sprayed
2 - instant sexiness (chest)
3 - mx235 (I initially wanted to spray it twice, but I accidently sprayed it again don’t ask, I could be clumsy! neck)
1 - instant shine (split in 2 with wrists)
Note: I forgot to wear a cover scent :S
Me: I did wear makeup, reg. pair of jeans and tank top
tg ended up calling me that he couldn’t meet me, so I was like blah, whatever, I’ll just go to class with my friend 
Hmph! he’s a bum! lol just kidding
Okey dokey, so let’s start…
OMFG!!! LOL! what a day I had today, kind of funny actually!
ok! I’ll be more serious now! deep breath
The temperature was like +35 but it felt more like +40 and I was sweating like crazy (too much info…but when I sweat it’s disgusting!!! I saw droplets of perspiration on my should blade and everything…gee the tank top didn’t do much)
~HITS~
-Anyways, I’m in the bus, the windows are open as hell and I am still perspiring as hell…and this friendly looking old grandmother comes up to me and says that I smell great! she even asked me for the perfume I wore…and I told her “it’s neroli and mx135”, didn’t mention about the pheros. Yea, I could have lied, and I’m a fantastic liar, but I just can’t lie to really elderly people! And she was like “oh wow! never heard of that name before, I guess I’m becoming old!” lol grandma…you kind of are, but still you’re cute! lol
-This one particular guy kept staring at me without a break! and he kept grinning at me for a fricken long time! My friend wanted to tell him to back off her girlfriend! (lol, what are friends for huh? lol! I love that girl!)
I was sitting in the back seat with my friend, and the grinning dude, old grandma and there were 10 empty seats! This other guy just came and sat next to me my friend was like wth is this guy a pedifile! LOL! if she only knew!
The same guy who sat next to me, was brushing his legs near mine at first I thought oh it’s just the bus moving and shaking people but after 15mins …give me a break! (I ended up moving to another seat with my buddy)
This other woman stared at me with this blank look (hmm I don’t know what to make of this…but it felt totally awkward)
And when the bus finally took me to the metro, you wont believe this!!!
I’m walking out and there is this group of druggie dudes whispering “oh mon dieu, elle est vraiment chaud eh?”…and they got off the same stop and followed me me and my friend ended up running to the metro stop and got in asap before it closed!
and finally when I got to school I didn’t get any blatant hits anymore, I guess the pheros wore off since I was sweating, but hey it was super fun
nice report, lol the drugies… haha… i once had a hooker type women run her hand on my chest in the subway… lol but thats NYC for u she insisted she was reaching for the subway pole to steady herself… lol
u girls like when guys (at least built guys) sweat… lol thats wat iv been told.
Edit: sentence 3 removed for remodeling and repair, be bak some time next generation * lol
bond
LOL! poor lady, she was tryin to steady herself…with a “subway pole” huh? lol that is too funny!
did it scare you?! I would have ran to the other end of the world for my life (but then I’m a girl so it’s different I guess lol)
Yea, when guys sweat, it’s hott sigh
I’m trying to reply the 3 sentence, but I’m confused lol
lol sorry… jesus christ… bad grammar, spelling, punctuation, sentence structure… lol my bad
im the same age as you are, 19, and i have had it were women in there 30’s and 40s show IOI… and are really close to you… sorry for the mess ups there… i had a good laugh at that… yes go ahead u can make fun of me
yea the lady scared me a bit, but im a but taller than her and probably out weighed her by 50 pounds… i wouldn’t blame a girl for running away… those type can be vicious
bond
LOL! nah, I’ll be nice today
lol, oh wow, you must be a celeb look alike if older women are showing ioi lol
haha, aww! poor you! but hey, older women are slightly harmless! There was one time where I had a super scarey ol’ druggie looking dude, ask me to give him company in the metro erk…and he held my hand (ughhhhh!!!) but I’ve learned that it could have been the pheros!
You’re nice everyday, sweet girl. And that was a nice/fun report! Reps.
In fact he is, right bond?
Ahem. Grannies…maybe. Good thing ya don’t scare easy, bond…‘cause it ain’t goin’ away any time soon…you poor thing.
I draw the line at anyone young enough to be my son. It’s just as weird to be hit on by someone young enough to be your son. Trust me. I can’t possibly see why a young man would be attracted to me. Yes, it’s flattering, of course, in a way. But, to me, THAT"S creepy. No offense…oh, young ones. Works both ways…believe it or not. Just ask poor old BH how many young ones give him the eye…of course he’ll be modest…but we know the truth. Wolf says you know you’re old when you become invisible to teen age girls. LOL. Frankly, it’s the women I’d be more worried about…if I really worried. He knows, if that day ever comes, he’s got a Get Out Of Jail Free card. Of course jail may be the more attractive alternative…as he’ll be living in a box…or dead…but hey! that’s his problem.
And by now, ms, you know the only way to avoid creepy guys on the bus is to…jump out the window. Yep. I, myself, am a creep magnet. I’ve wanted to throw somebody off a train more than once. If I was a little bigger and beefier I probably could manage it. I had one guy follow me around the supermarket for an hour. At one point I ran into him with my cart!..and said, “Gotcha!”…through my teeth. Thankfully he got lost after that…think he got my message? LOL. I think if they think you’re crazy…it scares 'em. Works for me!
You’re a pretty, sexy girl w/o pheromones…and now even more so with pheromones. Get used to it. Those buggers are gonna come outta the woodwork..better get your insecticide ready. And don’t forget if you ever get in a tight spot. SPEAK UP. “Get your hands off me you creep”. Nice n’ loud. One afternoon…I was alone…riding in a crowded elevator when I felt a hand in the crack of my a**…OMFG!..and that’s not the only time this has happened to me. I grabbed this creep’s wrist…flung it staright up into the air…at the same time shouting, “Who does this hand belong to?..I found it up my a**!”. I swear there are days I wish I carried mace.
Bella
Msselva-
About your subway & bus friends - you always do have to remember - the 'mones put out a specific message that everyone picks up - not just you TG - lol.
You gotta stay ready for IOIs, sometimes strong ones, even from people you don’t want them from. And sometimes from the wrong sex altogether. As in thanks but definitely no thanks - lol.
bella is right there… i do look pretty similar to an actor… a female friend of mine showed me a pic, i thought it was me, and asked about it… then i found out it was some famous actor… from looking at my avatar… do any actors look like me? tv show… *****natural iv been told 3 times (once by bella)
so old women can be vicious
bond
sigh yes, daddykins! lol, I’ll try to stay steady but it’s hard! lol lol I think I got an ioi from this forum without pheros…and I kinda need your help!!! Come to the rescue daddykins! lol!
oh-la-la! so that’s you in your avatar hmm? no wonder why! lol
lol, poor you! I bet there are young girls after you as well lol
theres no harm in asking, sweety i would have told u
bond