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Ok, I hear some people on the forum say that it is only 10% pheromones and 90% you. On the contrarary, according to Data4’s stripper topic, I hear him say that don’t do any work, let the pheromones work for you.

So here’s question number one, how much game do I actually need to posess if I put AMMO on (i’m a beginner and still fairly new to this stuff),

Two, what cologne is reccomend for a high school setting? like something that will make the girls talk to you and get attracted to you; without having the sexual desperation message that comes with TUTH according to some people.

How much effect of pheromones is really depending on individual.
I personally think the effect is more then 10%. However you can’t just sit there doing nothing after you apply pheromones. After applying AMMO, girls may be attracted to you but they may keep it to themself. You still need to put in some effort to approach, initiate a move or make some eye contacts.

To make girls talk to you at school, try IO and IH. IO will open up the girls and make them want to talk to you. IH will make the conversation deeper and more meaningful. They will feel closer to you.

Nah, I would do something with them, I’m not totally shy. I talk when I feel like it.

Which combination in your opinion would be better? Personally, I’m leaning more the openess + honesty combo like you said; would there be a lack of physical attration there?

All pheromones can attact girls in a way. IO and IH can attract girls without the strong sexual message. You are in high school, you must be young. You are already producing lots of ‘none’ which has sexual attraction.

For the right combination, I suggest you try them out yourself. IO increase quantity of conversation, IH increase quality conversation. I normally use equal amount.

If you like to combine them, start with 1 spray each and observe the effect. Then increase to 2 sprays each and continue until you are happy with the effect.

Cheers and good luck

Hmm, I’m tempted to try Openess with AMMO, but I still need some other people to back up on the openess and honesty (the combo seems like a great idea).

The doubt I have is that I am not attractive, nor homely either. So I’m stuck in the middle pretty much, which I thought that a little bit of Ammo might increase the attraction. I am in a dilemma lol :confused:

Jamesbonded has the best advice here. Try it out yourself.

The 10%/90% thing is just a mentality. You can’t really quantify how much effect your actions have and how much effect the pheromones have. So it can be 20/80, 23/77, 48/52..etc..

How much game do you need if you drive a ferrari to school? Not nearly as much as if you drive a pinto, but if you never talk to the girls, then it doesn’t matter either way, right?

Same thing here, you could say in the above case, the ferrari is doing 90% work and you’re doing 10%. Who cares what the percentages are, just go out there and have fun with the girls. :slight_smile:

Instant Openness and Instant Honesty is the basis of CTTM2. It’s been done and is very effective. Stop thinking/wondering and find out for yourself what works.

For a second there I thought we were going to be looking at math problems.:smiley:

~none has a “F&%k me now” vibe that tends to scare off the young girls (e.g. around your age). Stick with the socials, you’re making the appropriate amount of ~none. Later when you’re an old codger like me, you’ll need the ~none, but not now. This includes Ammo and TUTH.

Gah, they are all out of stock for CTTM2.

Yeah I want to try it out, but I wanna see and hear people’s opinions and experiences before buying what I want. I can be very picky, plus this stuff is expensive.

Oh, I see, you haven’t bought any product yet, and you’re wondering what to buy?

Oh wait, I take that back, they still have some CCTM2

Should I buy that over Instant Openess + Instanty Honesty since it is the basis of the two? Or does CCTM2 have different characteristics?

LTDshred, have you started an intro post yet? You can get a free gift certificate and use it to buy TOGOs of both Instant Openness and Instant Honesty. You’d probably only pay a few dollars with the GC and for shipping. That way you could try both out.

CTTM2 is not exactly like IO + IH, although, I suppose technically it works out.

As best as I know, IO is 30% beta-nol and 70% alpha-nol. IH is 70% beta-nol, and 30% alpha-nol. CTTM2 is 50% beta-nol and 50% alpha-nol.

As an aside, I personally started with Instant Shine and I liked it a lot. IO makes girls too chipper chatty and it gets on my nerves sometimes. High school is already talkative enough at times. :stuck_out_tongue: IH on the other hand, can be a little too…uhm ‘deep’ for daily use. At least, it’s not light hearted, or as ‘fun’ as IO or IS. Instant Shine is a great all around, usable anywhere, with anyone and it puts everyone in a good mood. People in good moods tend to be more expressive with you and want to be around you.

So in reality, the 30% of beta-nol + 70% beta (from honesty) would equal 100%

and the 70% alpha + 30% alpha is 100%, right?

Thus CCTM2 is 50 50 which would be the same as Instant Honesty + Instant Openess if I sprayed CCTM2 twice right?

Instant Shine may be an option as well. I already have the gift certificate from a week ago, so I could possibly get CCTM2 + Instant Shine. Would that be a good social combo?

In theory actually, because I don’t know the real ratios in IO and IH. I’m just giving you a rough estimate. In either case, don’t worry about the exact amounts. Assuming that IO, IH, and CTTM2 all provide the same amount of pheromone content, then yes, 1 IO + 1 IH = 2 CTTM2.

Any of those three products will give you results, they all just give different results. I don’t think CTTM2 is available in TOGO form, so just get IO and IH. Try each individually, then to get an idea of CTTM2, wear both in equal parts.

I think CTTM2 + IS would be a great social combo.

What I’ve found that works for me is instant gentleman and instant openness. The instant gentleman gives me that cool, confident vibe and Every girl I know thinks it smells great. Instant openness is so much fun to use. You’ll want to talk more and people will want to be around you more. I use 1 spray openness on each wrist, and 1 spray gentleman to the neck. I’m fresh out of high school and they work beautifully together.:smiley:

I know right? It would have like a instant openness, instant honesty, and instant shine combo properties.

As soon as my parents get their credit card back (we had a number stolen), then I’m going to buy CCTM2 + IS.

Right on man, let us know how that works out for you.

They are different, each has different steering pheromones.

LTShred, you’ve been here a while, and been asking pretty much the same questions over and over. And then there was that really weird thread about making your own pheromones through collecting sweat by the bucketsful you started over in the lounge. <ick>

You are young. It seems that you really have some issues with moving forward. All the socials will work to make you seem more approachable (CTTM, Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Instant Shine), but if you don’t close the deal, what is the point? And pheromones won’t give you that.

At some point you need to stop sticking your toe in the water and just jump in. :stuck_out_tongue:

Diane

I know I know, I’m sorry… I’m just kind of nervous and I keep asking questions to make sure. I’ve decided now to stick with social pheromones with CTTM and Instant Shine since it’s what my gut is leaning towards.

And I am approachable, hopefully this will doubly enhance my approachability…

Learn to listen to your gut more. It might steer you wrong once or twice, but it gets better with experience. The best way to learn or ‘be sure’ is to fail. So go out there and try things until you find what works.

I’m very similar, sometimes I think things through every which way, until I run out of time to actually do what I planned on doing. I’ve learned that it’s better to sometimes to just jump straight into the water.