Hi all :)

Hey everyone, My name is Marco (but I’ll prefer mco for alias purposes) and although I’m new to pheromones, I have been doing research about it for a few months, and I think I’m ready to give them a try! :smiley:

Ok, so my story: I’m a 20 year old college student from Colorado. Once upon a time in high school I was one of the cool guys in a not as cool clique. During this time I had the tenacity to really go out and do what I wanted to do, opposite sex wise. It was not unlikely that every weekend I would walk up to a random girl, hold her hand before even asking her name, and given 20 minutes, would be making out with her haha. But alas, that was my downfall, and soon became an outcast from said clique. Unfortunately, I also lost all ability to be so charming and quick. Now in college, I feel very intimdated approaching girls, as college girls are a whole scientific journal different from my high school ventures.

So, what I plan to achieve here is:
A. Regain that boyish charm I once had, but exploiting it for the college level (for this I am thinking A314 and Ammo)

B. Make the girls interested again (Turn up the Heat and Instant Openness?)

C. Become “the cool guy” again, especially with male friends. (Instant Shine?)

I’m not entirely sure my itinerary fits the bill (Im still confsed as to how IO and IH differ in terms of effects :confused:) but I’m really hoping pheremones will help me get back into the groove of the social scene.

Thanks all for listening! This seems like a great community to be a part of!:smiley:

Hi Marco, welcome to the forum!

To answer your question, Instant Openness helps to increase the quantity of conversations. Its a great ice breaker, and makes people chattier.

Instant Honesty affects the depth and quality of conversation, allowing it to be more intimate. People are more likely to open up to you about things that are meaningful to them, and share secrets.

For you to start with, I recommend Ammo. It will give both your confidence and sex appeal a nice boost, and cam be worn in any environment.

To get conversations started, Instant Openness works very well. To get closer to those girls, once you have their attention, try Instant Honesty.

Instant Shine is another good choice, because it gives a positive glow to your personality, and draws others to that energy.

Do you really want to regain a boyish charm? Or do you prefer to move seamlessly into manhood? After all, this is college now. Instant Gentleman will make you seem a little older, in a good way. Girls will feel comfortable and protected when you are around them.

Hi there and welcome to the forums, I am DJ and would be happy to answer any questions you may have.

At 20, I’m not so sure you have lost that boyish charm, but Instant shine can do that.

Hello Marco and welcome to the forum.

I understand what you want to do but some of your product choices are a bit off.

A314 does not give you boyish charm. It gives you a heavy alpha leader vibe that can actually create a lot of distance between you and others. Good for CEOs, managers and salesmen. Bad for college students dating. Plus women in the 18-20 year old area often associate that vibe with their fathers or father’s friends.

To be the cool guy you have two main options. Instant Gentleman or Ammo. Instant Gentleman will give you a cool, smooth dependable vibe. And it can make you seem a little older as a result. Check out the A314 vs IG thread in my signature block. What you want is either the IG or Ammo.

Ammo is none based and will let the ladies know you are interested. But it is balanced enough that you can wear it anywhere a cologne scnet is good.

TUTH sends out an “I want to do you now” vibe. Not usually the vibe a college girl wants to get when she first meets a guy. It is more to move things forward when there is already a certain amount of interest. A lot of guys do use it for clubbing but it seems most successful when paired with something like IShine or IH.

IO is alpha nols. It helps a lot with general chatty conversations. IH is beta-nols. It creates feelings of connection. And as a result of those feelings of connection people will open up about things that are important to them. That is also a reason it works pretty well with TUTH in club settings. Helps create feelings of connection that women want to feel before they decide to act on the vibe the TUTH is sending, if you get my meaning.

Let us know what you think.

Thanks to both of you (and by the time i finish this, I’ll assume bosshank will have also posted, as I saw him reading the thread)…

The boyish charm thing… I was always really into it. It was never really quite me, but damn it worked, and I enjoyed putting on the charade because I knew it worked. I am a bit taken back by Instant Gentlemen, as I do not want to appear older. When I hit 20 I was like “I’m old now! :angry:”.

I also forgot to mention, I am taking the summer off, and want to go back feeling like a star, (and btw I will be living at the dorms) getting those first few impressions solidified as an interesting character.

One thing I am worried about, is that living in the dorms, you are always around everyone always always. And I am worried:

If the pheromones wear off in the middle of a good thing, will that make all the “magic” go with it?

Say I’m spending a whole day with a girl, and the spray pheromones only last about 6 hours correct? well lets say I’ve been woo-ing her all day and here comes that 6th hour- Do I become a no so interesting, not so sexy, not so completely pleasant to be around, regular me?

Well IG can make you seem a little older. Not like you are my age or anything …lol. It or Ammo is the base product you are looking for.

The pheros only amp up who you are. They do not create the attraction - they merely assist. If you are concerned, buy a couple spare To Go bottles and carry whatever with you.

No, it won’t make you appear older like an old man, lol. It will make you appear a bit more suave, smoother, like someone who knows what he’s doing, who can take care of things. Women like that in a man.

Then the summer is a good time for you to find your “sweet spots” for the pheros. That is, for you to become comfortable and familiar with the effects of each, and to learn what dosage works best for you.

LOL, no they don’t just suddenly wear off. Its more of a gradual thing. Most of the spray products last between 3 to 6 hours, but it really depends on the person, everyone is different. You will learn your durations when you first start to learn your pheros.

Very information guys, thanks.

So Ammo/IO should be my daily wear, IH/Shine when with a prospective girl, and once at the right level, TUTH?

Also, I actually first started my research at LoveScents, and was compelled to get Alpha 7 Scented, Scent of Eros, NPA, and IO there. Since they didnt sell IO there, I stumbled upon here and did some research before registering.

Any thoughts on how A7, SOE, and NPA might benefit me?

Ammo, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty and Instant Shine can be used around anyone, in any situation.

Ammo can be your daily wear. Instant Shine is also good for daily wear, as it has a nice effect of giving both your mood and the moods of those around you a nice lift. Instant Openness should be used in situations where you want to get conversations started. Instant Honesty is best for when you want to get to know somebody better, and you want them to to get to know you as well.

SoE would be a good daily base. NPA is much like TUTH and in some ways I like it more.

Daily wear:
Ammo
Add IO, IH or IShine as you think might help out the most.

or
SoE
You could spice up the SoE with some NPA.

Date:
Ammo with IShine or IH.

Clubbing or Big Parties:
TUTH or NPA with IShine and IH.

If you want to do some research on SoE and NPA check on posts by Gegogi. He also uses both a bit. Just remember he is early 50s, ethnic Korean and successfully wears VERY heavy doses of none based products like NPA and TUTH. You will NOT beable to go that high, although you can bump them up a little if you buffer either well with one of the social products (IO, IShine or IH).

Well this really helped me out a lot, thanks to you both.

One last thing before I let you guys be, Mix 2, (CTTM2)… is that unavailable to me as of right now (as I am not an experienced, dedicated user)? Because I could find that VERY useful. I read a post about limitations on new users choices… would that be one of the ones I am unable to get?

You should be able to order that one. I think it comes in a to-go size now, too.

hmmm… I just posted but it didnt go through?

basically I thanked you both, and lastly asked you about CTTM2, Mix2…

and about how I read a post that said it was not an available option due to me being inexperienced… (though, it would be extremely beneficial to me)

well thanks for all the information!

once my financial ducks are all in a row (aka tax return) I will try your recommendations out, and post my results! thanks again!!

You should now qualify for the $25 gift certificate, which would basically cover most of the costs of two to-go’s.

Hello Marco, Welcome to Pherotalk :slight_smile:

You got your products a little off there>>>>

These two wont regain “boyish” charm. These are men’s mixes Masculine strong alpha men. A314 is for a strong alpha respect vibe. makes people more accommodating and ups your status.

TUTH doesn’t cause interest its causes arousal. If she is not interested she will take the arousal to who she is interested in. he may thank you though LOL

IO will cause more interest and interaction.

This is your boyish charm. Warm uplifting charismatic charming. Ammo and IG are more your cool guy vibe

The difference between IO and IH is simple.

IO is light attractive chatty fun. Increases comfort and interaction.

IH is deeper more meaningful conversations. I feeling of connection closeness and trust. More bonding on a emotional level

Boyish charm may have worked well in high school but your not in high school anymore. You have to balance that charm with a mature vibe. College girls left the boys behind and are looking for men now.

20 is not old or even close to being old.

No magic here just science. No the impression has already been made and the signal sent. New people entering the area may not get the signal after it diffuses all the way but I don’t foresee it being a problem for you.

NPA is strong and probably a bit much for you at 20.

A7 I cant say much about and neither does anyone else which indicates its not the best of the best.

SOE is fantastic, very social and attractive

You can get this one its a Pre release formula . Its a mix of anol and bnol and very similar to IO and IH . So you wont need all three. I would go for them separate myself.

One last piece of advice. Take your time and learn about the products then choose a few good ones like AMMO IO and Ishine to start with. Use those and find your dosage’s for each one individually and see how you like them then consider getting more. Over doing mones is not a good ideal either. To many signals just zone people out.

Your GC is on its way

Tisha
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