A little about myself: 39, male, European. Rather overweight, and lost one of my male-you-know-whats to illness about 15 years ago, so my testosterone production is probably on the low side.
I found the Androtics website while typing in the wrong URL for the attraction forums, a pick-up website. I’m coming out of a failed LTR, so I’m mainly interested in pheromones for help in attracting the opposite sex. I’m also looking for a bit of help in boosting my own confidence. I have also been studying body language and social skills.
I currently own Instant Shine, Ammunition, and Turn Up The Heat in to-go sizes.
Day 1
1 spray Instant Shine to base of the throat. Love the smell. A little sweet for a masculine scent, but otherwise love it. Everytime the breeze blows the scent to my nose, I think: “My God! I smell good!”. No noticeable effects on others. I am smiling more, which is unusual because I don’t smile much normally. Not sure if this is just excitement at trying out the new stuff, or a hit. I find that I am highly suggestible, so the little negative voice in my mind is telling me it’s just my imagination. The little positive voice is telling me that it doesn’t matter where it comes from, just relax and enjoy it .
You’re doing just fine. I’m 38, heavy , and only have my right one left after a removal surgery 22 yrs ago.
I had my testosterone level checked via blood test. It was well within limits for a man my age. A bit higher than the norm in fact. I wouldn’t sweat that if you are concerned about it.
I love the IS smell as well. I have the 4x version. I’m still testing it, but so far i like it just for the way it makes me feel right after putting it on. Just take it slow and keep gleaning the board for info, and testing them.
Hang in there. And Big reps to you for being so open!! That took some stones.
Today, 2xInstant Shine to-go on throat. No noticeable changes in behaviour from others. My body language is poor, and I think it’s drowning out the effects of the Shine. I haven’t really been pushing myself to interact with others today either.
I am getting definite self-effects. Not dramatic, but it’s like there’s an angel on my shoulder reminding me to cheer up whenever my thoughts start to dwell on something negative. I have suffered from clinical depression in the past (runs in the family), and this feels kind of like when I was on the anti-depressants. Gently drawing my mood upwards. I find myself smiling a little for no reason. I’ve asked Mickaela if she can do me a deal for a 55-gallon drum at 100x strength, we’ll see what she says
Day 3:
My ex served divorce papers on me (beating me to the punch). Gotta get some A314 for my day in court. Still experimenting with the Shine. 4 sprays is overdoing it a little, I start laughing out loud at nothing at all.
Instant Shine only lasts a few hours; gotta get some more, I’m running short already. I really am noticing now when I “come back down to normal” after using the Shine.
Now that I know what Shine does, time to start testing Ammo.
Been away from these forums for quite some time: “real life” issues (don’t you just hate it when real life gets in the way of your hobbies?!), and I put my pheros away and more or less forgot I had them. Yesterday I confronted a burglar who was in the process of breaking into my home. Rather scary, but no actual harm done, thank God. I remembered my Instant Shine, which always cheered me up. Unfortunately, nothing but the dregs left there. The Ammunition to-go was bone dry: I was right about it leaking. Still had Turn Up The Heat nearly full, but that’s not useful in that situation!!
The rising Australian Dollar has made pheromones much more affordable, so I’ve just placed a second order: Full-size Instant Shine; and full-size Instant Openness. Alas, my unused $25 GC seems to have expired. Otherwise I might have gone with more items. Oh well. So we’ll see how we go with that.
I’ve observed in myself that I when I get eye contact with women, I can’t handle the tension and tend to break eye contact; or if the contact is very powerful I can’t follow up by approaching and starting a conversation. So I’m going to work on holding eye contact no matter what, and trying to remind myself to relax and release tension in the moment. Guys who are interested in eye contact as a weapon of mass seduction should google “jeans*joe”, a German PUA who has a fascinating article on eye contact on his blog, which is available free.
Link is here: [eng] JeansJoes Guide to Perfect Eye Contact – Version 2 | JeansJoes Blog (http://www.jeansjoe.net/blog/?p=14) for the written version.
This page Finally! The Podcast on Eye Contact! | Jeans*Joes Blog also has a link to a podcast on eye contact from Joseph W. South, who has a podcast show on pickup and relationships & interviewed Jeans Joe. I don’t agree with JWS on everything, but he’s pretty clued in. The eye contact episodes in particular are worth listening to IMO.
Hey Tezza23,
Glad to hear that IS is working for you. Smiling for no reason is awesome. I have only been using IS for about a week now but i have noticed a considerable difference in myself. I too have suffered depression and being seeing a psychologist for several years now. You are 100% spot on when you say that its affect is like anti-depressants. And the good thing is you get no side effects . I stopped taking esipram a couple of months before i found phero’s just because i wanted to stop medication. But i have found that even though it doesnt completely eradicate the sometimes negative thoughts, the general tone of the voice that guides you within is overall more positive.
I am however a little nervous about relying solely on it as i have noticed a definite comedown after 3-4 hours. I have also found it very motivating and it has helped control my eating somewhat.
@Invisibleman, like you, I found I “came down” from the Shine after 3-4 hours. One thing that DOES seem to work with the depression is… nutrition! I recently got a book called “How to quit without feeling s**t” (that’s the title verbatim, including asterisks). It’s about quitting things like sugar, caffeine, tobacco, alcohol and hard drugs. The author’s idea is that people who use these substances are deficient in certain brain chemicals, resulting in “reward deficiency”, and self-medicate with various things. Unless the user deals with the reward deficiency, it’ll be difficult to quit the addiction. I drink a lot of Coca-Cola: sugar and caffeine. I want to get off it, but have had a hard time until I started supplementing with glutamine and the other vitamins & minerals this guy recommends. It seems to improve my state, and I crave the sugar and caffeine less. My state is far more stable: I feel… normal. No comedown! Exercise also seems to help; I used to walk for an hour or more every day when I was younger. Especially when things were bad at home. More self-medication, I wonder?
Back to the journal…
Second order just arrived: 1 x Instant Shine, 1x Strength, 30ml
1 x Instant Openness, 1x Strength, 30ml
1 x TUTH, To-Go, Version 1.0 [freebie]
1 x Chocolate truffle
Last year when I ordered I got a free to-go of TUTH version 1.1. I’m surprised that I got TUTH 1.0 this time. Clearing out old stock as freebies? Went back to previous formula? Newer formula, old label? Storm in a teacup?
Just sprayed on TUTH v1.1, 1 spray each wrist. [As a 40 y.o. I think I can handle that much -none.] IO, 2xspray neck. Am going out to the city area where there will be lots of women on their lunch breaks. Weather is cold (for Sydney). Short sleeve shirt, button up with neck exposed.
No real results today. In fact, fewer women returning eye contact than yesterday, without pheros!
However, I think that I was actually in a better state of mind yesterday, and my body language and state control definitely need work. Also, people were busy today. On weekends, they’re out shopping. Today, they’re at work and are preoccupied with getting their lunch and eating it before their lunch break is over.
Will try the pheros in a more social environment, like a pub, and see what results I get.
Just went down to the Chinese restaurant for some takeaway. While waiting for my takeaway, person behind counter tried to start a conversation. Twice. My body language was NOT in any way inviting of conversation. Arms crossed, not making eye contact. I can still smell the IO on my neck, so could very well have been an IO hit. Seems to affect others but not me. That’s a little disappointing, I was hoping it would help to break through my social anxiety. Ah well, early days yet. Only got it today, should be encouraged that it’s affecting others (apparently).
IO seems much more persistent than I am used to from IS. May be the cold weather here is making it last longer.
Actually, I am finding that IO gives me more of an impulse to chat. Not enough to overcome my shyness (at least, not at the two-spray level), but I’m feeling friendly impulses more. I feel like if I were more in the habit of talking, it would make me talk in situations where I would not normally talk. Twice, on the bus, I felt an impulse to open a conversation with a stranger but then the shyness kicked in and I suppressed the impulse.
Went out to the City today… not much to report. 2xInstant Shine regular strength, applied to neck. Grooming neat, ironed shirt. Seemed to get more attention from shop assistants. Asians seem to like the smell of Shine.
Not much more to report. IO seems to have some self-effects making me more inclined to start coversations. That’s good. I’m good once I get rolling, but overcoming that initial hump of talking to a stranger is where I get stuck. I have noticed a slight itchiness from IO. I really, really hope I’m not allergic to it
Self-effects from Instant Shine seem to have died down. Or maybe they’re still there, I’m just getting used to it. On the plus side, I don’t “crash” after the Shine wears off.
I’ve been using Shine and IO around my daughter. Given that I don’t see her much, it’s hard to gauge if it makes much difference, but she seems relaxed and playful enough with me, and I’m glad of that.
Phero and locations:
2xInstant shine, 1x strength, neck
2x Instant openness, crown of head. Hair is very short, ~5mm long, so sort of a combined skin and hair app there.
Sitting on a bench in the street, looking downwards, just as someone passes I sit up a bit to wipe my eye which had a bit of dust get in it. Woman, 40’s, is the one who’s passing and says loudly “Hello, how are you” and keeps walking past at a brisk pace. Was she talking to me, I wonder? No idea. might have been an IO hit, but can’t be sure. Didn’t see anyone else she may have been talking to, she wasn’t holding a phone that I could see.
Edit, forgot to mention I just ordered IG, MX292 and 301/2.
Had lunch with my mother and my daughter. Mother was chatty, and volunteered “You look really well!”
I was thinking this must be an Instant Shine hit. While I’ve lost a kilo or two recently, whenever I’m wearing IS my mother says that. Without any prompting. I am surprised, she was a smoker for years and claims to have lost most of her sense of smell and much of her sense of taste. Still seems to affect her.
Latest order arrived: Instant Gentleman 30ml, MX 292, 301/2 to go, IH to go.
Instant Gentleman makes me feel more serious and impels me to get productive stuff done. I tend to be a bit lazy most of the time and if the IG gives me an impulse to get to work that’s going to be useful. It’s a bit “darker” and “heavier” than I prefer, will keep trying it at various dosages but will probably soften it with Instant Shine.
OK, I’ll put my posts in a slightly more formal format.
Pheros and locations: 4xInstant Gentleman 30ml size, front of neck. (What do they call that bit right near your collarbone, the clavicle? Around there, anyway).
Self-effects: Felt very serious. A bit tense. Effects started within a few minutes, lasted up to an hour after application, when I suddenly realised that I was reacting to the pheromones the way I do when I am around someone I am intimidated by! Because of my Aspberger’s, (at least that’s what I think I have), and personal history (bullying from father and teachers) I tend to be a bit angry and defensive around males who are well above me in the social ladder. After reminding myself that “It’s me I’m smelling!” this particular feeling subsided. Replaced by a more prideful sort of attitude.
Effects on others: not much interaction, didn’t notice anything out of the ordinary.
Last night I deliberately OD’d on Turn Up The Heat (4xto go spray, neck). Found myself walking faster, eating faster, speaking more loudly (I generally don’t speak loudly enough). Standing up straighter. More attracted to women I normally wouldn’t be all that attracted to. But feeling kind of restless and fidgety. Next day, felt down and basically slept all day.
I’m getting closer to my personal “get off your arse and talk to women” mix. I’m going to try A314 and Instant Jerk on my next order. I’m getting so close I can taste it… or maybe smell it!
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That took some stones.
thanks!
might have been an IO hit, but can’t be sure. Didn’t see anyone else she may have been talking to, she wasn’t holding a phone that I could see.