the 5 big hitters compared -mx292 vs Ammo vs A7 vs TE/NPA vs Pheroproof

Hey guys,

Okay well i feel the products above may be the best in the business for attraction/ sexual hits. [not comparing the social or respect side of things or the hard hitting sexual products that lack buffering like TUH or Raw Power].
Personally, im yet to reap the benefits of mx292, but based on its popularity, it may already gain status as one of the more powerful attractant pheromone products out there. So personally, for me? nothing has come close to Ammo in terms of consistency, buffering, sexual hits, and ability to combine well with other products. I wrote down all my hits over the past 1.5 years with these products, and 75% have come from Ammo combinations. I love it best because u can get hard hits quite quickly and works better than most wehn approaching girls cold, as it dosent take much time to start working. [with a314 for eg., i need time, so i get better hits from this around networks or people i can spend 30 mins. with].

Okay, so in these categories, lets create a ranking system out of ten:

Ammunition:

  1. sexuality - 8/10
  2. consistent hits - 8/10
  3. best combinations - IS/ Ammo, mx103/Ammo, Ammo/ IH / IS.
  4. buffering - brilliant. 8/10.

mx292:

  1. sexuality - OD’d.
  2. consistent hits - none so far
  3. good combination - a314/ mx292 from other reports.
  4. buffering - brilliant, so im told. :slight_smile:
    [basically, cant rate this product yet. needs more testing around a controlled environment, but very dissapointed in it so far]

NPA/ TE:

  1. sexuality - 9/10
  2. consistent hits - wildly erratic. when it hits, u’ll get laid. when it misses, she may just knock you out! :wink: ha ha…but for the good times, it deserves its rank as one of the best sexual products.
  3. good combinations - DST Pheros/ NPA/ IO [or Cttm2], NPA/ SOE.
  4. buffering - 4/10. apparently the Lacroy secret ingerdient helps in buffering, but im yet to experience this consistency. TE is probably less dangerous. this is the major drawback with this. Just combine with many socials though. try IS/ IH/ NPA/ IFM…very very lusty.

A7:

  1. sexuality - 8.5/10
  2. consistent hits - 8/10
  3. good combinations - Snakeyes loves A7/A314 with Excalibur cover. I personally witnessed a brilliant hit with this hot hot French girl he approached on the street. she was instantly aroused and gave out her number within a minute. Ive worn it and its quite strong. great respect like a314 , but very powerful. other famous combo. a7/ SOE [or IO/Cttm2]
  4. buffering - 7/10. has the potency and sexuality of NPA/ TE, but without the risks. great buffering.

Pheroproof:
cant rate it. Just going on the consistency of the reports out there. im worried about its buffering potential, as its very high in 'none.

thought of adding p83 to this, but i find it isnt necessarily sexual, or an attractant. its a variable putative depending ont he direction u take it and what u combine it with. i also find it lacks consistency.

Thanks for that good comparison, mate.

Agreed totally with your A7 and ammo reviews. I can’t forget that A7 hit I had which you made mention of, and ammo has never failed me for sexual and respect hits. Ammo has never failed me.

Never tried NPA before.

I’m sure if you give that Mx292 a little more time you may see the results shine through for you. Or maybe that one really just isn’t for you after all.

Great comparison list mahalo! I’d love to know the dosage you’ve been trying these products. Especially for A7 - I just got it and could use some dosage suggestions! It’s oil based, so I think I could use some more than the 5 mcg -none in Ammo that seem to work for me…

EDIT: Oh, and do you find it necessary to cover A7? I’ve got the scented version, but the fragrance is rather light and as I can’t smell -none myself I’m not sure if the EOs in A7 are enough to cover it…

Although PheroProof is strong, it is also well buffered and balanced with other mones. Sorta a hotrod Ammo. Not the RAW woman beast experience of a NPA or TE, but a little more tame. Still pretty nasty and makes Ammo look really polite. I still use PP for special dates.

Well lets see here is how I rate them I guess:

NPA:

Is the hardest hitter and without a doubt if you do not believe in pheros is the one to give to skeptics, from the moment I put this one on I seen results no joke.

The hardest part is getting dosages accurate, I use a dropper instead of dabbing,

Very easy to OD but I have used at work with no problems

Great thing is unscented and mixed with your own cologne I rate it a 10+ and a 5ml bottle goes a long way. I bought this with a SOE combo and been using them together and works great.

Alpha 7 Unscented: My second favorite can mix with my own colognes, seems to be really hard to OD, and has rone in it so gives me a bit of an edge to it when I wear this I get a lot of sir’s and respect sort of like when I was wearing A314. I usually wear 2 drops in day and 3 drops at night.

I never tried The Edge so no comments

Ammo - is great because it has everything you need all in one and safest to use - but I find has not enough none in it for me so i need to TUTH or some other none product like Raw power

MX292 - I find does not have enough none to suit me but other then that is my favorite product here next to MX203, I still have not figured out what is in it and how it works but gives me a look at him Mr. celebrity status type who everyone wants to be around, only downside comes scented which means i cannot mix with my own colognes only cologne that it layers well with is Green irish Tweed

never tried pheroproof but looking forward to trying it when it does come out or some variation of it

Hey Denec, how much NPA do you use for your 5 ml bottle of cologne? I’ve got a bottle of NPA still lying around here somewhere…

i dont even mix it in a 5 ml here is what i do

i got rid of the stopper it came with and just use a glass bubble dropper i bought from any drugstore can pick up for like $1.00

any time i need to use I open it up put the glass bulb dropper in fill it up a bit and put and use two drops, drop it on my finger and rub it, one behind my ears, and another on my adams apple if any left in bubble dropper drop back into the container close it up.

At that point I then cover and spray with cologne of choice

Thanks, I’ve read your post wrong and thought you’d mix it in a 5ml bottle with cologne…:roll_eyes: Wow, two drops! I’ve used 1 drop some years ago and it was instant od! :smiley:

anyone know how much none is in one drop? I really do not know

i definitely did not OD, had some of the best hits i had in a long time that night when i went with two drops first time i ever did that, I was like WoW NPA really works LOL and oh I did cover with SOE

I remember when i came home after putting it on my girl i was seeing at the time jumped me right away she literally said if you do not fuck me I am going to strip right here and and pull out my dildo

Mmk, i have finally heard SO MANY good things about NPA from Denec (and about Raw too, but that’s not an option right now) that i finally had to go and buy it. I’ll keep you updated once i figure out what the best way for me to use it is and how it works for me compared to the alcohol based androstenone products i’ve gotten here. Oh, and thanks for the tip on the eye dropper, denec!

um what is NPA and where can i find it in the store im looking now but can’t find anything with that description, thanks.

NPA is indeed a powerful sexual pheromone product. When you note the possibility of overdose or negative hits, I think that is an advantage.

Why? It sorts out the targets for you. The hits are much more likely to be from women who are primed to act on their reactions while the negatives are likely from women you shouldn’t waste time on anyway. Of course, who wants to set off a PMSing woman? At least she self-identifies.

Edge is about as good but less convenient to me. Lots of overspray and less control on dosage. Dabbing is much more controllable for me.

I’m still testing Ammo and MX292 (and MX203) but they seem to have had positive responses the few times I’ve used them (had a bad cold and bronchitus the last couple of weeks.)

Have yet to try A7 or Pherolure.

Now I think your survey was about attraction. What I really love NPA for is the actual act. When you know you will be grappling naked, apply liberally to the chest and then down the centerline and especially around your privates - if you like being slobbered over. But then, what red-blooded guy doesn’t?

NPA is concentrated androstenone (chemset strength!) with a “secret” ingredient. It’s designed to be mixed 5 parts Cologne to 1 part NPA. Not well suited for direct application as it’s too strong (read: easy OD). Sold direct by Lacroy in South Africa or from LS in USA. One of my all time favs.

I also like TE but hate the spray head (too much). It’s best used by dabbing or transferred to a better atomizer, e.g., Sephora.

I tried the NPA and MX292 mix today as directed by denec and I had alot of hits/IOI’s off women. It’s like adding an armour piercing round to mx292.
When it hits it hits!

Because of the MX292 I got no negative reactions from men.

You da man denec. :smiley:

I know this is a stupid question, but what is “buffering”???

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anyone know how much none is in one drop? I really do not know

Its around 18 mcg phero per drop inc secret ingredients,
It must be mostly Androstenone judging from the OD reports.

I have gone through more than a few bottles NPA/m. i dont use it often because i am more of a social animal now after taming the stallion within.

I get some amazing and also some terrible reactions when i use 3 drops NPA/w, therefore just to play it safe i use 2 drops whenever i feel the need for dramatic or wild action action.

Everybody seems to use the term “buffering” in different ways. Some think of it as small amounts of social or feel-good mones that lessen or absorb the shock of an badass mone like androstenone." For example, TAA, A1, androstanone and androstenol are typical mones used to buffer androstenone. Others think of buffering as small amounts of mones that focus or refine the role of a dominant mone. I think Jasmine more accurately terms these “steering” mones. For example a small amount of androstenone in a predominantly androsterone mix adds a little edginess to the peaceful fatherly vibe. I think TUTH has a bunch of steering mones to refine the nasty Neanderthal androstenone vibe. I just call it mixing until it works…

Finally, some refer to buffering as an agent to allow slower and more even release of the mones into the air, rather than a fast burn. I believe the before mentioned can be influenced by choice of carrier (oil for slow release or alcohol for fast), use of scent for increased diffusion and mixing with small amounts of complementary/enhancing mones. I’m sure all three methods are employed at once in products like A314.

omg! i was in class last week - week 1 of Spanish, and this girl sitting next to me, puts her foot on my leg…in a class of 20 people, 1st week and id never met her before. then she slowly rubs her foot up my leg! unbelievable!!! what was i wearing? my NPA mixed with CK Eternity at 1:3 ratio of NPA to cologne. Still, it is weird as it wasnt based on any attraction, just a primal urge she had in that moment…like no build-up of seduction at all - just a weird, 20 minute perios where this girl was incredibly hornified…very very bizzare. This type of blatant hit can only be attributed to a heavy -none product.

Bubblebob,

1-2 drops of Alpha 7 mixed at wrist pulse points. Wait 15 minutes then add 2 drops a314. Then smear the residue wrsit application at neck pulse points. These oils mix really well together and u get the cinamon spice of A7 blending in nicely with the subtle hippie scent of a314…i applied the Excalibur scent as a cover before u go out.

On a side note, really enjoying the scents of the “unmentionable place”. Excalibur, Northshore, and Merlins Blend r great. They r potent oil scents, and r good covers to really get the pheromones in the noses…

Unless the ratios have changed, NPA has a concentration of 0.24 mg/ml for each of its 2 components, which translates to about 6 mcg/drop of Androstenone and 6 mcg/drop of Lacroy secret ingredient, compared to Raw Power’s 10 mcg/drop of Androstenone.

I think Gegogi has it basically covered with his descriptions for buffering. To add further, “Steering” basically helps to direct and focus the effects of pheromones to a more useful and controlled purpose. Raw androstenone is rather difficult and unpredictable to work with - it may generate arousal in some people, or it may generate hostility and aggression in others. Adding steering pheromones will help direct and focus the effects to a more smoother, controlled response. For example, using alpha-androstenol with androstenone helps add a social, open vibe, so instead of being perceived as a guy looking to get laid, you might come across as the fun and sociable guy who you wouldn’t mind hooking up with. With all the putatives that Androtics has, the possibilities for steering and buffering are very impressive indeed :smiley: