My A1 finally arrived.
Here is my idea.
A1 - 1 drop from dropper, spread behind both ears
A314 - 1 drop spread jawline, neck
Ammo- 2 sprays 1 for sides of neck, 1 for chin
IO- 1-4 sort of spray on top of all of the above application points and distribute.
Lots of layering, and I would use the IO and maybe the Ammo to allow the A1 to carry in the fragrance.
Now… is there anything wrong with this application strategy?
Nothing wrong but from the reading I’ve done, I draw the conclusion that you get better diffusion (and economy) from the A1 if you mix it with a fragrance first.
I’m also concerned that if this is your first go with A1, you may be one of the unlucky few (like me) so may be about to hit the negative effects unprepared. It was a few tries-in before I reached the dose where it bothered me and shit, I’d have been a right mess if I’d not been aware of the possible risk - I went from quite fine to feeling really bloody awful in no time at all.
I would seriously suggest trying a bit on its own for a few hours first. It was about 6-7 hours in when it hit me. Don’t be put-off by that though, it didn’t take long to build-up a reasonable tolerance. 
Thanks, as for the self effects, I think I will be fine. I have used IFM and if I do get any self effects I will be aware of their origin, so I will be able to better control my self.
I want to just do it right out of the dropper because mixing seems like a pain in the ass without a pippette.
Vague instant feedback:
was not happening.
Great. If you do get any, I found that simply washing the app points was enough to restore myself pretty fast.
I didn’t see a great deal when I was starting with A1 on its own. Except that eventually I noticed that a good few women I stood/sat near started hair-twirling/fidgeting like crazy within a few minutes, even if they had their back to me. More often and more obvious than without the A1.
The more blatent hits came thick and fast when I started using A1 along with something else.
How many mcg’s of A1 do you use nowadays? And how many you think are needed to start seeing these hits?
I’ve used up to four sprays at 12.5mcg per spray and had hits from two sprays upwards.
From my reading, guys around my age were reporting that approx 30-50mcg total seemed to be the effective working dose. A younger guy could probably get by with less maybe?
A single drop contains way more than this IIRC and although OD’s don’t seem so much of a problem, it does seem wasteful.
And as an update to last weekend’s exposure - Since last night, Smart Girl has been texting me saying how much she misses me, wishes I was there with her and how she is counting the hours till I arrive.
Even allowing for the fact that she does like me, she’s not done that before. The A1 effect taking hold maybe? 
Will be taking the exact same basic mix as last week to her tonight and I’ll add-in as I feel. Except that I have no plans to surprise Sport Girl this week. 
I am going to a birthday party in a couple of hours. Fertile women will attend.
Androstenone, I seriously do not know how to proceed with this stuff, because it doesn’t work for me. I thought of the following possible reasons:
A. I am not congruent
B. I OD on the slightest dose
C. It doesn’t agree with my body
So I am going without -none in the near future.
For tonight I was thinking:
30mcg A-1 + 2 drops a314 + 30mcg p83 + 2 sprays CTTM2
Any objections and or feedback?
If it is any help Bolkie - I found Androstenone best used as a coup de grâce phero. The sort of thing you apply in order to get quickly to that “let’s go - NOW!” moment after building up with socials (eg 297/IS), kino and otherwise fun/congruent behaviour. Dancing in particualr.
Put simply, I usually didn’t apply it till they were already crawling all over me. And then, I didn’t need much.
Oh and it could have some scary effects on innocent bystanders - eg one night when within 10 mins of application, I had my lady straddling me, grinding her crotch in my lap and kissing me passionately, whilst I had a random middle-aged bisexual woman on one side, demanding we took her back for a threesome and a big bloke on the other side screaming that I was a pervert and he was about to kick the shit out of me. It had all been nice fun, social and friendly up to then! 
Mind you, I am older than you and the women I had the most positive/dramatic results with were all older than the ones you are probably looking at. You may well be producing enough of your own.
On other occasions when I used it too early, I could easily find myself lumbered with a grumpy, standoffish and fidgety partner for the evening.
Well, that mix worked superbly again last night - Smart Girl’s cool was well and truly broken. Up to now, she has always been a little bit standoffish and prone to bursts of affection/passion.
Last night however, from the moment I arrived, she was all over me like a lovestruck schoolgirl. Wouldn’t let me out of her sight, constantly stroking my arms, chest and face, kissing me, sometimes straddling me/stretching out beside me and she didn’t even want to go out - ended up as just a long, long and increasingly passionate make-out session on the couch, before we went up to bed.
I’ve done a search on this and did not see anything come up.
It’s regarding A1 mixed not in oil (RazorPowell) or lotion/babyoil (K-Train ) but in silicone - CPS.
I’ll have to make another order to try this out but I’m intrigued by using mones based with this in the past and the middle ground type diffusion created vs DPG or definitely lotion. The silicone molecule is too large for skin absorbtion which would aid in diffusion and I also like the barrier it puts between my skin and the mones involved. My hypothesis is that the amount of A1 that could be carried would be similar to DPG but less than lotion to keep depressive effects at bay.
Just wondering if anyone has tried this before. The one thing to remember with CPS is that you HAVE to shake the bottle prior to application (the CPS and the mone is seperate until shaken).
I’ve been using A1 mixed with IO with great results.
I find that when I 1st meet a girl this is a good combination, as it really makes her not only talk, but feel comfortable with talking to you.
I put 1ml of A1 in 4 ml of IO, making it 25mcgs per spray of A1.
YES, at 50 mcgs I got a serious depression effect as detailed in my MX297 and A1 , speed dating report.
I’ll also say I wasted 1ml of A1 in…4ml of IH with one drop of coplins. Didn’t have the effect I wanted, which to give off comfort and social proof…Ithink it just sent off confusing signals as, I was never recieved well with it
Cheers Happytaps
Hey happytappin nice to have you back on board.
Im sure i havent seen you around for a few weeks
Interesting. What type silicone that is based on CPS?
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Well that weekend was superb.
Smart Girl just wanted to stay close and have me to herself virtually the whole time. She usually wants to go-out at night when I’m there but on Saturday, we just went out for some shopping, spent a some time with her mother and that evening we went out but before long, she was saying “can we just go home and have another night like last night” (oh yes!) And on Sunday, she just spent ages being close and affectionate at her’s, before again, only going out for a little while.
The basic mix again is A314 , 2 drops - neck and wrists, MX301, 2 sprays - forearms, P83 10mcg in Akuto, 3 sprays - arms and chest, A1 in Azzaro Chrome 12.5mcg, 3 sprays wrists and back of head.
The variations over the weekend were:
Saturday Daytime - there would have been the remains of the morning’s TUTH - 1 spray to throat, IS - 2 sprays, each forearm.
Saturday night - I washed, changed and applied the basic mix plus 2 sprays of NPA 4:1 in Chrome - each side of neck.
Sunday afternoon - Replaced the Azzaro Chrome A1 and NPA sprays in the basic mix with three sprays of NPA 3.5/1.5 plus 12.5mcg A1 in the same spray. - One to neck and one to each forearm.
If there was any negative effect, it was that I found it very difficult to sleep on Sunday night and kept going over the weekend in my head but not in a bad way. The only bad thing was that I had a very early start this morning!
Secondary effects were maybe noticable on a visitor at her mother’s, a late middle-aged man. He seemed very wary/edgy around me and became quite brusque a couple of times. Then when we were out, A lady at a table close beside us just sat there staring/smiling broadly at me and some random woman (late 30s) lightly took hold of my arm and ran her hand along it as I stood beside her at the bar, then greeted me, then a while later, she came over, talked to us, took me aside, again holding my arm more firmly, pushing right up against me and putting her mouth right up to my ear/neck (place was not that loud) and started laying-off about how I “need to get with” Smart Girl ASAP and other stuff. After that, her partner came over, introduced himself, shook my hand firmly and very respectfully said he hoped I wouldn’t be wanting to start any “shit” over her - I happilly reasurred him I had no interest at all! When we left the place, she was more or less ripping the clothes-off him in the bar. He looked a tad surprised!
Thanks man,
Yeah I let A314 get to my head and I decided to start my own promotions company. So i’ve been really busy. But I’ve still been here and there. Reading and bit…I have a report on MX301 I’m gonna put up when I get a second.
Cheers
Can A1 be used as a buffer to IJ (or other high -enone sigs) ? If yes, what kind of ratio has proven best for you ?
of course can you use A1 as a buffer to none but consider that A1 convertes over time to none … but this should not the big problem if you apply it on the back of your neck and if it´s as cold in the Netherlands as here in Bavaria
you could start with somewhat 12,5mcg and look how it goes for you and work your way up to 50mcg … ( over 50 mcg i don´t see some beneficial effects of A1 )
A1 has definately some buffering qualities but hope that others have more found out about ratios when A1 is used to buffer none
Pago
I believe it only converts to none if there’s an excess of bacteria on your skin i.e. you’re sweating a lot.
Anyways, I got some A1 in the mail the other day. I don’t have any pipettes yet so I used it the first time in lotion (read in K-Train’s journal that this helps him wear more without side effects). Today I used two drops undiluted (according to what I’ve read this should be anywhere from 50-80mcg) with 4 sprays of other mones at work and still didn’t experience any symptoms of depression. If I’d be in a bad mood anywhere, it’d probably be at work haha. I did have a very, very mild headache at one point but it only lasted briefly and I’m not sure that had anything to do with mones. I felt really mellow though but still in a good mood.
Oh yeah, I had also showered with Dial Magnetik shortly before applying.