the “none products doesn’t work on asian girls” theory is wrong! its all about cultural not biological.it’s in their culture they must suppress their feelings and be conservative.i’ve done more than 10 field test with a light none social product and most of my asian targets reacted positively.but heavy none products is a NO NO! if you show a strong sexual aura,they find that very offensive and ofcourse a turn off.im 100% sure products like perception,PM new formula,chikara and wagg-n works great on asian girls.because they’re all social products with just abit of edge PERFECT! happy hunting guys!
The cultural/biological discussion has been done in quite some depth if you want to search it out and yes, we do understand that the none response is to a great extent determined by factors prevailing in their cultural background.
However, you do find a fair breadth between wholly Westernised and strongly traditional Asian and the reality is often somewhere in between. Then you can look at other variants like say a better none response in Thai and Korean people, compared to Chinese (and I imagine that varies widely by region as well) and Japanese.
Its also maybe that none can work too well and that a lower and differing proportion of none/rone and to a lesser extent socials can be an important factor and there is quite a bit of work that needs to be built-on as far as P75 (esp alongside IO or MX297) as a none alternative goes and P130 has been a potentially very interesting new moderator that can be very useful with none around Asians.
The theory was not and never was that anone products dont work on Asians at all.
Remember this is an international forum and some of the suggestions you read are going to reflect that.
The theory is that
Asian/American girls who have been brought up in diverse cultures can attract and respond to most anone products as long as they are not heavy and are buffered well.
Asians who do not live in diverse cultures and have mostly been exposed to other Asians tend to balk at anone products and attract more to the less heavy mones.
IG is a great mone with asians.
What ratio of none to rone has worked for you guys in the past?
And why do you say that, D?
Thanks!
I was also under the impression that NONE containing mixes for young women, Asians and perhaps even blondes favored high amounts of ANOL as an activator.
Not so much an activator but more of a padder (I’m hesitant to use the word “buffer” here since it can mean different things for different people). It pads the -none so that your target is not immediately overwhelmed by it.
as far as i know androsterone is the main ingredient in IG.rone create an aura of masculinity,protection,security and reliability which asian girls really dig.but don’t forget to throw in a fair amount of nol,because too much rone will give you that super alpha clint eastwood effect and scare the shit out of these asian beauties
Saying “favored” and saying “they dont work on” is two different things. Yes they respond best to well buffered mixes but that doesn’t mean anone doesn’t work on them. As its been discussed, it is both biology and culture.
Hair color has little to to with pheromone preference. Most blonde’s are not really blond.
Young women respond to anone but they need comfort mones to buffer, this has more to do with there sexual experience. High anone or anone on its own can be to aggressive. Lack of it can go the opposite way though.
Asian women respond to anone but its need buffering with the mood elevators and respect mones. This is both biology and culture.
The point is not to avoid anone if these women are your targets. Its to buffer well enough so the anone can sneak under the radar and arouse without causing those feelings of unease that heavy anone or straight anone can cause.
I am assuming something in the post you linked gave you that impression. Is it the formula for Asian persuasion ? If it is thats just the formula for one mix that Asians seemed to respond well to. The lack of, or limited use of certain molecules in this one mix is not an indication that they dont like those pheromones or that anone “wont work on them at all” .
In this mix, each putatives works off the others, there are other strong putatives in there. You also have some amplifiers in there, putatives that strengthen and sharpen other putatives.
Tisha
That’s basically it. This thread gives you something of what I’m getting at:
I’ve attempted mixes with high amounts of ANOL in the ANOL/BNOL 50/50/ and 70/30 ratio with P75 and TAA. All good. With NONE and eRone, even better–if, and only if–the application of the NONE is to the chest. This maybe a muffling effect. I don’t know. P75 does just fine to external application points. Then, lets add some P83, shall we? 25 mcg. Really good stuff. Something’s missing. It seems like it needs about 2-3 sprays of IO.
That, then, illustrates how hard it can be to build the mix. What I listed has 7 molecules. It might even need P79 , 74 , and TAC. Just with the 7 above, it’s a ton of fragrance. P83 and P75 is increasingly where I am for daytime/anywhere. Very low fragrance; affordable. It forms the basis of a club mix but needs the IO kicker. It needs (not necessarily much) a little NONE, probably to the chest, probably about 2.5 TUTH.
In other words, it’s taken me this long Just to successfully wrap my head around NONE. Chest=success. External skin=ghost. As always, Your Mileage May Vary…probably will. I don’t even want to open Pandora’s box re. what I’m thinking about what some of these, particularly P83 and P103, do to the Orbitofrontal Cortex (see the books by Dr. Goleman for some insight). I really don’t know for sure, except I’m hoping ANOL/BNOL are synergists, especially if I order more.
NB: “It’s also peculiar that women tend to wear what’s basically a ‘chatty’ pheromone. Women tend to be friendlier and more open to chatting in the first place… their vibe is basically very adrostenol-like in the first place.”
What Really interested me in the thread you mention and I included was: components from the Golden13, use of ANOL and/or BNOL (not in the 13; increasingly costly), the necessity of the latter two, putative future alternatives and the ratios/amounts of molecules used per spray. My attempt to create crush/attraction mixes for Asians and others will follow the concept in this paragraph. Despite cost, I think ANOL is a necessary ingredient in many situations (even if not in high amounts). There will not be a perfect, universal mix; however, a rainbow pack may be possible–and affordable.
I got great responses from a Thai beauty on several different occasions earlier this year when wearing Ammo and Instant Honesty. She loved MX200 as well. She is very culturally diverse and typically dates Caucasian men.
Different occasions. What was your relationship with her?
Do you remember the ratios you used, SWE? Thanks!
Our relationship was, well… complicated. LOL! We work together but there was a period earlier this year where we were dating. I don’t have exact ratios for you but I can tell you that I would rarely put on more than 1-2 sprays. When I first started wearing Ammo around her she remarked more than once that she felt hot or that it was hot inside (it wasn’t). It was hilarious to see her fan herself and physically react like that. And one night when I was wearing Instant Honesty she told me wayyyyy more about herself than she would normally. IH works wonders! That actually played a part in me deciding to eventually walk away from the situation.