The Ax testing thread

This is the testing thread for a new mix that I have come up with. We are calling it Ax for now. 9 guys in the UK shall be testing it and will post their results here.

Sounds cool.Waiting to read your results. :wink:

The first report from Marc :

Two sprays on the neck to self test.

Nice strong neroli smell.

I was feeling pretty sleepy when I put this on but feel distinctly more awake. Likely to be the anticipation from testing a new mix though.

Heading out shortly.

Sudden urge to do some weights.

Definitely leaving now. Feeling pretty good. Experience level…6.

Evening, getting ready to go out to a party.
Two sprays to inside of wrists, wiped over back of hands.

Self-effects:
Almost instant and immediate improvement in posture and mood, like a little bit of coffee just hit your system: perkier body-posture and easier smiling.

Just before going out:
Within 15 minutes of application a 21 year-old female friend comes over, and within 5 minutes she’s a lot chattier than usual. Although we don’t know each other too well, this time the conversation is flowing smoothly and she seems more relaxed and ‘open’ in conversation. Completely out of the blue she compliments me in an A314 way “Oh, but you wouldn’t be seen dead in <insert low value place>, you’re more of a <high value place> person”. I think she wasn’t sure why she said this because she blushed immediately afterwards and distracted herself with something else. The tension didn’t seem overtly sexual, but instead more emphatic, connected, flowing, calm.

Out at party:
No DIHL hits but lots of glances. I have a head-cold so was concious of not being too ‘on-form’ but male friends stuck to me like glue: everyone was “my buddy”, lots of easy conversation and easy laughs. The times I could be bothered to speak to girls (there were lots of girls there but I was feeling a little drained due to my cold) the conversation flowed easily, there was definitely interest, and lots of hugs and squeezes, with one or two girls singling me out from across the room for a hug/kiss on the cheek: definite reduction in social apprehension. There was an Instant Shine-like quality to the reduction in physical space; everyone was comfortable to be close to me.

In the end went home early to get some extra rest.

Far too early to tell so far about Ax. I need to get over my head-cold first and see how it handles when I’m feeling better: there definitely something going on with this mix and the words that spring to mind after this small test are; interest, conversation, flow, ease, smiling, friendly, calm, centering, gentle, approachable. As I’m writing this I thought (based on small evidence so far) that it’d be great as a social/bonding/team/work mix but that might be because I was not being congruent to the more sexual/sensual aspects of it.

More testing needed. :slight_smile:

And thanks again Ibelledthecat.

Marc :

Post office - 30 mins after 2 spray app.

Nothing of note. This is normally a good testing ground for me, I pick up my mail daily and there are usually a decent amount of people around. MX 292, 378 and my cops, A314, Ammo, Instant Jerk & TAA mix usually work like mad in here!

Mechanic:

Mechanic friend pretty unhelpful actually. I felt good, confident, chatty, articulate. Met my best pal there and we vibed very easily. Got inspired about something he has been trying to get me interested in for about a week.

Gym:

Just for a coffee with best mate. Females on reception and behind drinks counter again not so helpful.
Interesting. Maybe it is because I am feeling (and therefore acting) pretty cocky.

Coffee shop:

Took girlfriend there. She was noticeably very chatty and happy as was I. There was a big table of middle aged men in there on whom I couldn’t discern any particular response, likewise with a table of 2 middle aged women.

For self-effects and effect on girlfriend, another 6?

Hello, this is my first post on ibelledthecat Ax mix.

copied from journal

First test was self test, 2 sprays to neck after bath at about 11pm.

Self Effects
Little bit heady phero rush but not extreme, started to feel in good mood slight change in visual perception. About 1pm had to go out in car, felt myself being very smiley and in happy mood.

Effect on others.
About 4pm saw father and step mother who have just come back off holiday, she was very talkative and found it hard to get away, needed to as had job to go to. Did not see anything unusual with father.

Thoughts
From what i can make out this has no or very little fragrance, if anything is has smell like my diluted cops (EOW) so required cover with GIT. Did not increase my social anxiety, if anything it helped.

Rating 5/10


Second test was last night at dance night and freestyle, two sprays to wrists and one to front of neck, reason being sweat a lot and if all on neck would get wiped off and arms get very close to women face.

Self Effects
Much the same as first test, happy mood and confident. Was not sure how would be at dancing and if SA would creep in with my usual pheros, a present surprise was that i was very confident and was dancing very well, very sensual and in control of ladies. What i did find was that during dancing i was getting aroused physically, not full blown woody but the old fellow was starting to wake up.

Effects on others
Arrived half way through class, don’t normally go to this venue much as is quite but as it was xmas party thought it might better plus knew some people were going as well.

As walk in got acknowledgement from those i knew, joined class and first woman who was about my age maybe little older just kept staring at me, she tried some small talk but just kept staring at me with this hungry look, no hair play or other IOI just the staring. I danced with her later in freestyle, still the hungry staring, and after which she was blown away and could not stop complementing me, told me her name and rested hand on my arm, she left early but made a point of catching my to say goodbye.

The strong eye contact was a common feature with the ladies, though did not see any other obvious IOI, i was giving lot of eye contact and ramping up the sensual side of dance with me being very much in control being ‘the man’ which the ladies liked.

Another was young girl in late teens early twenties, she opened me and although a little awkward wanted to interact, again the eye contact.

A women i know fairly well from other venues was there, she really went with the sensual side of one dance, loads of eye contact and after was full of praise, later when dancing with her i showed a move that required my leg to be in between her legs with a twist and dip action, she got it wrong first time but second time sat down on my knee with full honey pot contact :slight_smile:

Although a little embarrassed i joked about it and she relaxed and we even flirty a bit about it, i also teased her all night about this. At one point she came over and sat with me for chat, not normal, and at end of night ask for phone number dispute having my email.

As said i was feeling the man and strutting a bit, the ladies seemed to drawn to this and at times had a que waiting to dance with me. It gave good overall self effects and this seemed to be the same for others. Should note that i was way more chatty then normal.

Not sure if this was one off so will test more, i have dance on saturday at a very big venue with hundreds of dancer so will see how it works there, may also try at local pub if go out tonight.

Rating 8/10

This sounds like a very promising mix.

Even tho I’m not in the UK, I’m definitely interested in knowing what the mix is.

Products Used:

Ok, so received mine the post today and proceeded with a mini self-test as advised. I sprayed about 1/4 of a spray on my wrist just to get the fluid going through and then sprayed two to my neck.

Self effects:

First thing, a VERY cheesy unpleasant but manageable smell, I had originally planned to wear solely Ax for a shopping trip but ended up throwing on some Armani Code for my benefit as much as anyone elses.

I did also notice a kind of butterlys/adrenaline/something feeling in my stomach but this could equally have been a reaction to the smell as I had been drinking the night before. Not feeling hungover but the kind of day you are still aware you went out the previous night, not necessarily bad though.

Directly after application I went to the supermarket alone. On the way I was balancing on walls and jumping over things on the way etc. This is not completely out of character but is usually only in a certain mood and that’s not after a night out.

Effects to others:

By the time I arrived at the supermarket I had pretty much forgotten that I was wearing it. Had no real noticeable effects from passers by and the checkout lady was simply doing her job. Usually have a bit of banter in the queues but nothing today, could be pheros, more likely just chance.

Duration of effects:

I tried adding a further spray to my neck bit about 3 hours later when going to the shops with a friend(male). No noticeable effects before or afterwards apart from the bad smell again.

In regards to overall experience I don’t really consider today a proper test.
Nothing extreme really noticed, just the activity en route to supermarket and the bad smell. Let’s hope things take a turn for the better in a more social setting.

One more thing, do you think I should try testing without aftershave? I will try if you think it will make a difference and just hope that I get used to the smell. Would be worried what others thought of it if they smelt though.

Could you try giving the bottle a couple of shakes as this should reduce the smell. If it is still present, let me know and I shall send you a milder mix as you seem to have a stronger concentration.

If possible, could you ask a friend to smell it from your wrist about 15 mins after application and ask him how he feels about the smell.

To people reading the thread - All testers have a different concentration of the same mix so you may find that results vary by a little or a lot. The point of this exercise is to arrive at a optimum concentration level.

Test 1

Two sprays total to neck at approx 7am (just before leaving for work). 2 more sprays 5 hours later.

Environment: Office

I wasn’t in the best of moods that morning due to having frustrations with my ipod/itunes and that didn’t alter all that much as I left the house. During the drive in I was playing The Prodigy on the car stereo and was getting ito it nicely. Halfway there a lorry tried to cut me up but I decided I wasn’t having any of that and put my foot down.I didn’t hang on to the usual feelings of resentment though and soon put the matter behind me.

Work was nice and chatty and there seemed to be a fair amount of banter. This isn’t all that atypical of my team at the moment. escpecially not for a Friday. One girlo who is of brazillian descent and sits about 10 feet away was particularly chatty. I know she went to the pubg for lunch but a couple of her comments in the afternoon were bordering on the NSFW. For my part I’m feeling a little unfocussed. I have plenty of energy but it’s a restless type of energy and a couple of times I forget where I am in some tasks. This was particularly noicable in the afternoon. I also tire noticebly during the day

Test 2

3 sprays total all to neck

Environment: Coffee shop and general shopping

I felt much better self effects at 3 sprays. I again applied shortly before leaving the house and noticed my mod lifting during the journey. This was most noticable when I picked up my friend. I was chatty, bordering on burbly but what I was saying seemed to be flowing quite well. It never quite got to the stage where I was self concious of talking too much but I was definitely feeling good and feeling social and chatty.

We then went to a well known coffee shop in town as we do most Saturdays and again fell into easy conversation. My friend can be quite internal; working things through in his mind whilst you’re talking to him and when he got in the car I thought that this might be such a day but when we sat down with our coffees this air seemed to disappear and we chatted freely. I also noticed a couple of other things of note. I’m usually happy for my friend to take the lead when it comes ot ordering at the coffee shop but today I stepped in and took control very naturally. The girl beind the counter also seemed to be quite eager to please.

The second thing I noticed were a couple of looks from a couple sat quite near us. I think the woman drew her male companion’s attention to us (it felt like me but that might be me being concious of testing.) and then he turned his head at least twice within the next 1 minutes or so. It was like we were being kept tabs on.

The rest of the shopping trip was an absolute pleasure. I again felt that energy but this time it seemd to be atouch more grounded. There was a definiteness about me. Decisions came quickly and when they were made they were acted on straight away. I still felt a touch of the restlessness, especially when waiting outside a shop for my friend. My hands in particular seemed to want to keep moving.

Most of the interractions I wwent through were, understandably with shop assistants and without exception they all went very smoothly. I was that little bit more chatty with them, made good strong eye contact and got, I think, a total of 3 “and have a great xmas’s” out of 5 shops, including one "If I don’t see you before, have a great Xmas. I also got a good hit form a girl who was behind me in the queue for the bank counter. As she approached I turned and smiled and she responded with a cherry hello. This is not my usual experience in this environmentOne slightly strange thing I noticed with this mix was a visual thing that was very, very noticable. Everything seemed very bright and very focussed, to the point where, in the bank, I actually felt they should turn the lights down - and there was nothing unusual about the lights, I’m confident of that.

Overall I think there’s a lot of energy to this mix. At 2 sprays it seemed quite disipated but at 3 it seemed to gain more focus and become a ‘get things done’ type of mix. It’s also very bright and smiley with an attention grabbing quality to it (TAA?) and makes interractions seem very smooth and natural. so far I’m liking it and I look forward to trying this out some more.

Dosage:
2 sprays spread between wrists, neck.

Note: Neroli smell overwhelming at first spray. Neroli soon replaced with another funky, powerful smell. Reminiscent of going into a toilet stool an hour or two after someone had puked.

Duration of effects:
Between 4 to 5 hours.

Self effects:
None

Effects on others:
No real improvement in quality of conversation.

It was a large pub gathering and everyone was involved in side conversations, no real theme going on. Alcohol was flowing all night long.

Following the sprays, the attention was more often on me than not. A lady, who was about 2-3 feet across the table, changed her seating to be next to me. There were no flirtatious signs, but the personal distance shrunk considerably. Guys were also more attentive to what I was saying, despite it being shit/banter most of the time.

I also get a hug from another lady I casually know. She’s usually shy, but as she left, I waived her bye and she came in for a hug.

It was at the bar where I could spot the real turnaround.

Before my application, the lady bartender was quite nice and friendly, chatting to people from our table who came in to pick up the drinks. Following the application, and after a couple of visits to the bar where I interacted with her/joked around, she would then leave her place behind the bar and come over to our table, asking if we’re alright for drinks.

As the night progressed, I went two more times at the bar for new rounds. On both occasions, she’d offer me a free shot. At about 1 am, when we were down to 3 people, she came in and offered us 3 shots, on the house.

We leave, and she waves us goodbye, telling us that she expect to see us next week. No real focus on me, but using “you” for the entire group.

All in all, I thought it was a positive experience, except for the smell (glad I had a cover-scent atomizer). I’m curious whether it would be replicated next week.

Copied straight from Journal

Have a couple of irons in the fire, 35yo caucasian brunette (R) which could be a long term prospect and a 28yo blonde (S). Definitely slow burn for the brunette but the blonde seemed to be more fun in the short term. Met for coffee, quick snog etc then, two nights ago, round to hers with a bottle of wine. In the interim, ibelledthecat had sent me one of his Ax test mixes, so went with that, solo, 2 sprays to wrists then rubbed on carotid pulse points. OMG, it’s got cops in it, no doubt, sorry to say that I gagged! Covered nicely with a couple of sprays of CK Eternity, no worries.

45 minutes later, in her living room, kids ( one of whom is shy with strangers) have come charging down and are climbing on my lap, S is now eying me as marriage prospect and replacement father! Get kids back to bed, we settle down to film and wine, chill out and kick back. At this point she shoves her wrist under my nose to ask my opinion of her perfume. Now, those of you who know me already know the “experimental US perfumer” line. for those of you who aren’t aware, it’s a killer, when they ask what you are wearing, give them a wrist ( or your neck, whereever you’ve sprayed your mix), tell them you work with an perfumer in the US ( or UK, if appropriate) and ask their opinion of this scent,they then take a big noseful,you either get no hit or, in my experience more often than not, it’s game over, either a phone number or her panties hit the deck. Yes, I’m a bad man but I’ve had more sex in the past five months than in the previous 15 years so bite me, lol!

Anyway, S goes crazy, licking my wrist application point, then my neck, literally ripping my shirt off my back and riding me into the ground. Now this girl has two kids and ain’t exactly size zero yet apparently I’m the biggest guy she’s ever had ( slightly over average but not a pornstar), the best fuck she’s had ever ( not the first one to say that recently) three days later she can still not walk, feels like a virgin again and is still bleeding. Unfortunately, she had a night out with her girlfriends last night and told them about me,five of them have called today!!

Slightly more sedate test today, same two sprays, family lunch at the local pub, my dad is away for a few days so my sister/brother in law and I take mum and gran out to lunch, no self effects ( but I’m a cocky bastard anyway), brother in law is quite submissive which is unusual, definite IOI from both girls behind the bar when ordering drinks, the waitress is lingering at the other end of the table, leaning in my direction, displaying cleavage, accentuating the hip wiggle when walking past etc and making prolonged eye contact. Way too young for me ( probably 19/20) otherwise definitely would have taken things further.

Still early days but this is showing some potential, ibelledthecat might be onto something here, well done that man :slight_smile:

Duration seems to be in excess of 5 hours, rating 7/10, this will go up to a solid 8 if I can replicate the results.

I’ve had consistently good results with my favourite ammo/IFM/IH combo in the past, this mix appears to be on a par if not better, it certainly hits faster.

Now, before everyone starts rushing to grab this wonder mix, take a minute to look at some of the people posting on this forum, Gegogi, GWTW, Bosshank, Steve, Dancing Joker etc. these guys have been playing with pheros for years, not weeks and know what they are doing. If there is one thing I’ve learnt from them it is that there is no wonder mix that is guaranteed to get you laid, a promotion at work etc. I’ve got good game, an attitude to match and the pheros lay another 10% on that, they don’t do it on their own but they do make it easier if you know what you are doing, learn the basics, then you can drive the ferrari.

Well, said my good man. Now I just wish some of the newer guys could listen to this very vital information. :slight_smile:

Great reports guys. I am working on the smell and tweaking some bits to figure out the best blend.

I am thinking of making 100 to-go bottles available worldwide for the 2nd round. This shall take a couple of weeks at least.

New reults posted in Journal for slightly higher levels of privacy :slight_smile:

Overall rating Between 5-9 out of 10. Read journal for more details.

Test 3

Location: Family meal

3 sprays total all to neck.

With the previous days success I decided to give the same doage a try but in a different environment. I was due at a family meal at Frankie & Benny’s fro my sisters birthday so sprayed on the three shots and headed out.

I was first to arrive and was charged with getting a table. The lady who was on point for incoming customers asked how many and upon being told a table for seven was needed told me it would be 30-45 minutes. I booked it in and popped out to phone the rest to let them know and was followed out by the lady with the bleepy thing they use to tell you your table is ready. Got a big smile as she was heading back in and a promise to see if she could get one quicker. The table was ready in ten minutes. Don’t think this was due to the spray though more that people left earlier than expected.

The family arrivedd shortly afterwards and we all sat down. My three year old niece greeted me with a big hug (just me mind no-one else.) and was generally very attentive throughout. My other niece (6 yrs old) was less so but that isn’t all that strange. In general the meal went well. Nothing huge to report.

Test 4

Environment: Workplace

4 sprays total 2 to neck, 2 to wrists.

Thought I would up the dosage for this test and also vary the application points to see if that made any difference. The mood in the office was generally pretty good and there were a couple of occasions where personal space seemed to lessen fairly noticeably. The banter also seemed to flow quite nicely and there was again a few borderline risque comments from the Brazillian girl. Not noticably more than in the previous work test though.

Overall I think I’ll save my next test for more social occasions. I’m thinking something with alcohol which I’m doing on Friday.

Marc :

3 sprays to neck and back of head

Shopping centre (30 mins post app):

Multiple looks from women as I walked through, including blatant looks from women with boyfriends - so much so that I had to check that my flies weren’t undone!

In mobile phone shop early twenties mixed race girl (staff) friendly. Two early twenties guys (staff) quite deferential.

Again I feel overly cocky with this. 3 sprays is a little too much for me, I would say.

Pub (2 1/2 hours later):

Met 3 male friends. No inhibition in the conversation. Very limited reactions from the girls in our vicinity. I know the female manager of the bar and she is perfectly chatty with me as usual.

I find with this mix (and of course I don’t know the concentrations I have) that interactions with girls I know, including my girlfriend go very smoothly, whereas those with strangers not so much. It is as though I can provoke sexual attention with it but I can’t convert that attention very easily into conversation with women that do not know me.

Copied from journal

Hello, this is my second post on ibelledthecat Ax mix.

Was on dance night at very big 500 plus dancers, was going with anyone but expected to meet a few people i know.

Self Effects
This mix certainly ups the confidence levels, seems to add a swagger as well.

Effect on others.
This is an attention getter with increase in eye contact, though unless you have a connection with others it requires work on your part, seems like it needs some Instant openness. I tend not to see other IOI just the intense eye contact. At dance a TG from one dance venue was there, we are at a point where we are teasing each other but not verbal flirting but she gives lot of eye contact even without this mix. What did happen was that while i was taking a rest i was at side of floor and she was dancing 20 yrds away but kept seeing her looking at me, when dance finished she started walking towards me but another guy asked her to dance, she turned him down telling him she was dancing with someone else and promptly asked me to dance. Normally the rule is not to refuse a dance. Normally i ask her or she hangs about making it obvious she want to dance. I seemed to notice she was bit more intense with a sexual edge to our interactions.

Thoughts
The smell is still there even with shaking so needs a cover scent. This is a attention getter but seems to lack that something to someone to open you, though people are comfortable. Also seems to need a little something if going to use to up the sexual tension.

Rating 6/10

This is my first time wearing Ax (A10), and therefore a self test.

I sprayed 2 sprays - 1 to either side of my neck. The first 5 seconds I could smell quite strong Neroli then I was hit with the overwhelming smell of cheese. I know some people are very tuned in to the smell of pheromones, but I personally can never smell anything through Neroli, game or Akuto - even when wearing unscented products from Androtics I’ve never really been able to consciously smell pheromones through the alcohol. After applying Ax, however, I could smell cheese very potently. Having never used copulins before (I know PS has copulins in, but reportedly not a large dose) I assumed it was them that I detected as cheese - it did after all smell like a vagina times ten*. 5 minutes after application and the cheese smell had died down, I sprayed a spray of cologne to my throat to avoid anyone else getting whiff of the smell.

  • Like I said, the smell of cheese smelt very much like vagina but was much more overpowering. I usually find the first 5 seconds very unpleasant when going down on a girl, but after that the smell seems to totally vanish and I love it. The cheesy smell from Ax also vanished - almost - as quickly as it came and hit me. I can’t think of the word (Ax definitely takes away some of my ability to concentrate) given to smells which we almost instantly stop consciously smelling, but I know that word applies to both the smell of a real vagina and the cheese in Ax.

Self Effects:

After smelling what I believe to be couplins, I prepared myself to feel aroused any minute. The arousal never came though. Instead I felt very serene – a lot like how I feel around Instant Female Magic. The self effects I get from this mix actually remind me very much of one of my favourite mixes: 2 Ammo, 2 Instant Female Magic, 3 Instant Openness and 5 Instant Shine. I didn’t feel a loss of energy, but a slowing down of energy (very different thing), I just felt very tranquil and chilled out. This mix definitely doesn’t make me want to get up and do something, it makes me want to just sit here and bathe in the pheromone cloud. Very relaxing mix. My hands feel so relaxed I’m even struggling to type this now several hours later.

Effects on others:

This was only a self test, and could only manage to be around two guys. Both were very, very chatty – Spaceland style chatty. They were both in a good mood anyway, but the mix also seemed to pick them up ever so slightly. I’m sorry I don’t have much more to report other than that.

For what its worth, my dog absolutely loved me and would not leave me alone or stop following me. I’m going to guess that, that was the copulins as well.

Overall experience rating 7/10. ‘Pleasant’ is how the mix makes me feel, ‘Chatty’ is how the mix makes other (guys) feel. This was only a self test, next time I need to do the mix justice and wear it out and about. There is high dosage of pheromones in this mix, you can feel them. I’d like to thank again ‘ibelledthecat’ for undertaking this project, I’ll be sure to test the mix again shortly in a much more appropriate environment.

Evening preparing to go out

Dosage
3 x sprays to wrists and inside of arms

Self effects
Unlike some of the other reports I like the smell. It’s feminine, without being girly: woman rather than girl. It smells sexy to me. I thought it might have copulins in it but can’t be sure… it seems to have the same effects in that it give a small perk of energy, similar to one through a copulins tesoterone spike. In the case of Ax it might be slightly more coffee-like than testosterone surge, but it’s hard to tell. There’s also a sense of calmness and - again - ease and flow. It makes me feel calm and centered. Lowered social inhibitions mentally and felt a slight ‘strut in my butt’.

Effects on others
Went to a gathering where there were many middle-aged and older (than me) people. Lots of older women and older guys. There were definite IOI’s from women, though not as blatant as when I wear my usual mix of A314/MX289/IH/Ammo. As with last time I noticed an A314-like deferrence by a couple of women which was almost unnerving, one woman going so far as to keep apologising three times for a trivial thing that was not even a problem; she was almost babbling with apology and it was a little embarassing. I gave her my biggest smile and she seemed to calm down, but before I did this her friend was staring at her as if she were mad.

Guys - similar to the last time I tried this - were friendly and buddy-like and slightly more talkative than usual.

One thing I noticed was some very strange looks from the more older women (50+). I’m not sure if this was statistically important as it only happened twice, and there were enough other factors that could have contributed to this (I was standing in a “do not stand here” area for example). But nonetheless, the stares were quite blatant, and intense: not sexual intense, sort of “let’s have a blank-faced staring competition” intense. When this stare was done by a 60-ish balding woman this caused the twilight zone music to play in my head.

I was more alert to the physical attraction than last time I tested but I’m not getting what I normally think of as sexual hits from this. I’m getting interest, opening, comfort, ease, flow, coolness. Not physical: It’s a social attraction I feel others are displaying. It might sound strange but one perception I get from the effects is that it has “Alpha Female” qualities.

Duration was at least three hours if not more.