As you can see, this is my first post, nevertheless I have been reading people’s experiences for some time now. I have never bought a pheromone product before, although I was thinking to place an order. I told my cousin, about pheromones couple weeks before, and he came today with an interesting article from a newspaper in my country, giving a review of a new book with the same title as in my post. The guy is a well respected scientist, and professor in the university of pennsylvania (I just searched his name Richard L. Doty).
Also, here is the first review from Amazon.
“Simply delightful reading. In a concise but totally convincing manner, Richard Doty sweeps away the pervasive mythology of pheromones.” – Floyd E. Bloom, Scripps Research Institute
OK I do not know what the argument of this guy is and I really do not care (for now at least). After reading all the experiences and logic behind pheromones from people here I am convinced, that all this cannot be placebo, and I hope I do not start a discussion like this as I saw in another thread a few minutes ago…
What I want to ask from experienced users is, if I place an order for a sexual product “Turn up the heat” what EXACTLY I would see. What the results would be like???
I am not talking women begging me for sex or anything of this nature (although I wish) I am asking what would be the different “not normal” reactions, so I would really know that “Turn up the heat” works?
I have read before that strange women may stare, play with their hair e.t.c. Anyway this is getting far longer than I was planning to
Putting everything into a sentence - What are the most common signals that a sexual pheromone started doing its magic???
From my experience, Pheromones are something to help amplify what you already have. Whether it be personality, looks, demeanor, game, or any combination. I’ll go over some of the technical aspects of it for you in hopes it can give you some sort of idea on what it is.
TUTH is known for its sexual characteristics because it enhances a person’s own -none that they normally produce. This helps enhance any sexual feelings they person may have for you.
In reality, you have to match criteria of a woman’s wants in a man or just be lucky and be at the right place at the right time. If you don’t dress/groom in a manner which is conducive in attracting women then you would have very little shot even with the TUTH. Moreover, the more you put on, the older the women you will attract. It also depends on many physiological factors, your age, activity level, blood type, and whatnot. For all intents and purposes, 1-3 sprays have worked for me. I keep in shape, mid 20’s, and decently attractive.
TUTH has worked as an amplifier for your skills in meeting women. I’ve noticed that it compliments very well with progression and KINO with women. Other products here have helped me get the initial looks and TUTH has helped me close on those looks. In reality if you’ve read the forums, you know that nothing is every 100% guaranteed to work on every single person. The human factor also has to be involved in it. It’s not a magic spray that will automatically make women want you. You have to do the work initially but this is helps facilitate your game much better and helps you become a more well rounded individual when it comes to meeting women.
TUTH works best for asian guys. It sucks for other guys, but hey, asian guys just don’t produce enough anone, so it works well for them. Likewise, IG works better for lationos, who produce high anone and lower rone.
Trying to say how it is not fair is like saying how some blonde dude gets more hits from girls than you (brunette)
Just deal with what you were given and go from there, including your own mone threshold and how different products work on you
If you are italian, you already probably have high anone, so wearing TUTH would be major OD and girls would run from you!
I’m technically pacific islander and not asian. But for some reason 1/1.5-2 is the upper limit for my TUTH OD limit. I always thought it could be cause higher muscle/fat ratio? I’m 160 lbs and 10% body fat. Blood type O.
That highly factor in too. Plus if you are under 25, you still produce a lot of anone, even if you are asian. You probably produce a lot more anone than some obese fat white kid your age or anyone that is 30+ including latinos and blacks(considering you are pretty young)
Especially P51Mustang, what you said makes sense. I have read quite a few posts and I have started forming an idea of what pheromones do.
P51Mustang its interesting that in your post you use PUA terminology, and this is the main reason I asked, what are the signals you get from women when a sexual pheromone has an effect.
My main interest of using a sexual pheromone is to improve my game with getting better, in selecting “targets”. I am not sure if this will work, but here is what I was thinking. Spray some “TUTH”, go to a club and move around, spending a few seconds near every attractive woman, if she will start giving sexual body language, I will approach. This will give me a better chance than approaching girls that have a boyfriend or are not interested for any reason. What do you think?
I saw this great sexual body language list from Jasmin, do you get more of this when you use pheromones?
The pick up artist lingo is used almost universally with anyone that has come across any training or read up on reading women and picking them up. However, when you mentioned “selecting targets” I’m going to assume you’ve already done the basics of the eye contact, smile, secondary eye contact with more of a protracted look. Once that’s done, the initial interest is already there. The door is proverbially opened and its up to you to talk through it. Whether or not you are or are not wearing pheromones (I’ve sampled both) it will happen when they find you physically attractive. Personally I noticed this difference when I went out for cinco de mayo. I went out right after work with some colleagues to a bar. I had no pheromones on, was dressed sharp; suit, shirt, tie, fresh haircut. I got a couple of IOI’s from women around the place but I was only able to strike conversation with one, (other two really weren’t the best ones there). I said hello and initiated a conversation, it would have went well if not for her friends always trying to get her to do other things while we were talking. This is all without pheromones and in a bar full of people dressed comparably as I was, I was getting decent hits from just my demeanor and congruency, (if you look good, know it and act it).
Fast forward a couple of hours, 1.5ish sprays of TUTH. I know it’s not exact science but I don’t OD on it until 3 sprays. Same looks from women from afar (I get it all the time when I go out right after work with a suit on). As get get in closer proximity to them, I notice more physical contacts and escalation, ON THEIR PART, some of them were with their respective bf’s/guy friends. I’m not sure how that is, but the only difference I can tell is that it was later on at night meaning; more alcohol was consumed, its getting a time for last licks at the bar for some women. I did notice enough of a difference that showed IOI’s.
Like you I’m still in the testing phase of it. There are so many factors involved that you would be so surprised at the effects, plus back to timing, if you catch a woman on her ovulation period, your chances with TUTH will go up.
The best thing is to try and keep notes of sprays, environment, how you were feeling that night. This is because of the whole rule of congruency, I could be wearing the best version of PS (Panty Scorcher) and my body language tells the woman differently, I’m not getting anywhere that night.
Skip TuTH for now, it’s too direct. You mention “game” so I’m going to assume you’ve read and /or are familiar with Mystery Method and it’s offspring, Love Systems and Style Life.
Using a product like TuTH is falling into seducer/player mode, either going straight for seduction, or building attraction and then going for seduction, in either case comfort phase is skipped so you wind up with flaking.
TuTH can and does build sexual tension in a woman but it also communicates sexual desire on your part, which if you are a student of game you should know that showing too much interest too soon can scare the women off.
If you use TuTH you’ll want to use it in conjunction with one or more other products so you don’t come off like you’re talking to her tits while holding your dick. If you use TuTH alone, it CAN work but what I noticed when I used it was I had to neg a lot more and disqualify myself as much as possible to create the impression that the sexual tension she was feeling was more her own and that I was ambivalent. I hate negging, and I like getting to a stage where we get past the bullshit and can be open about attraction, it’s a lot of work hiding your sexual interest so, I can’t recommend TuTH as a standalone, especially for pickup.
IF you want a decent standalone product from personal experience I’d suggest Ammo.
It’s smoother, more well rounded and not as aggressive. I’m told Instant Gentleman is very good with younger women but I haven’t used it yet so that’s just me repeating hearsay but I’ve done well with the advice of most of the people here so if they say IG is good with younger women I’m inclined enough that I’m WAITING HINT HINT for the chance to give them some of my money in exchange for a bottle.
Now I’m not trying to turn you off of TUTH I’m just saying if you use it, using it by itself will actually make your game harder for a lot of women. From my personal experience TuTH works great with A314 and Instant Shine. A314 is a product based on AndrosteRone, and gives a very strong “dominant alpha male” vibe but in the more social sense of the term, think Donal Trump adding Instant Shine makes it more charismatic, warm and likeable. Think Bill Clinton. Then a shot or two of TuTH adds a strong, but not overbearing sexual presence. You want to come off like the man in the Italian suit that the women swoon over, not the sleazy guy with the unbuttoned wide lapel shirt, gold chains and pinky ring.
(although I wish) I am asking what would be the different “not normal” reactions, so I would really know that “Turn up the heat” works?