What are the dosages you used for those products (1x/2x) and where did you apply them?
Did you cover it up with your own cologne? Where did you test it out? As Tish said, it’s all in the details .
For me, I’ve been experimenting with TUTH as a standalone and as a mix. To be honest I’m also getting close to zero results with it so far from strangers (more on this later). HOWEVER, it works wonders with people who already know you or have some sort of comfort level with you. I know this because I got blatant IOIs from my landlady. She’s around 50 but still pretty hot (think Palin) divorcee but I have no interest in her (I prefer younger chicks ). Anyway, I was wearing Ammo 1x 2 sprayed to my chest and TUTH 1x to both sides of my wrists that day. The application was about 3 hours before the encounter. I actually wanted to try this combo in a bookstore, but I got zero hits there so I went home. I met my landlady and she asked me if I wanted any of the leftover ice cream cake. I said no but we ended up chatting quite a bit. Over the conversation, she kept on playing with her necklaces and adjusted her pants a few times. I kept the convo light and cracked a joke or two and she started touching me . First on the hand and then shoulder and twice briefly on the chest (these were all in less than 5 minutes as I was talking to her). She touched me before in convos before (usually once) but never 4 times in a row…
Now it got more interesting, there is a light switch right behind where I was standing. It is for the main lighting of the room. For whatever reason, she turned it off unexpectedly and started walking towards me and “accidentally” bumped into me in the darkness (did she forget that I was still standing there?). Well I guess I’m not too naive - in the movies this is the scene where the guy holds the lady, embraces her and and gives her a kiss….
But back to real life… all I did was to ask her “are you alright?”. She replied yes, fumbled in the darkness and turned on the light again after 15s or so…and said to herself ‘Oh what am I doing, why did I turn off those lights?’
In the end of our convo she basically said ‘Good night, see you tomorrow’ with a very weird forlorn look .
Anyway, I would count that as a hit from TUTH. My theory is that TUTH as a standalone might work on strangers when the other person is pre approved to initiate you (e.g. bar/blind dates/hookups). I think culture would also matter (whether a girl approaching a guy is acceptable or not). Just think the last time you saw a 10/10 girl - did you approach her? Most guys would just say ‘she’s so damn sexy’ to themselves but do nothing except checking her out.
TUTH with other mones (esp some putatives) can lower inhibitions though so you might be able to get results from strangers in other venues I described above…but I’ve never tried it myself and couldn’t report on any results there.
I know for sure TUTH & IS work when used properly. I’m still trying to figure out how to use IG…
Good luck and keep on reporting.
Where did were you? TUTH is androstenone. Used best with people that have known you for at least a few hours. Otherwise you just come off as some horny strange guy. How much TUTH did you use? How old are you?
You didn’t get any self affects? Where did you apply? You didn’t get any self affects from IS? I am surprised by that. I’m aware that IS has different affects on everyone, but I would assume you would notice something the first go round. You may need a high dosage. Make sure you are trying products out individually if possible to learn your sweet spots. Then you can work out optimal mixes.
i felt that ishine just smelt really good but i dont think it really lightened my mood. i tried it when i just woke up no dif, when i was a little bit down, no dif, a lot of times no difference in mood or others. tuth, im only 17 but im asian so low none levels instant gentleman smells good but im not exactly sure if i came off as a gentleman i will keep trying though
The reason is that you can tell whether or not they work by the reactions you’re getting. And correction I forgot it was two days, I take a day off between putative testing and that’s why I mixed it up I apologize.
But seriously before mixing anything, try that out first, I know how it is to be excited when your first pheromones come but in the long run it’s very beneficial and you start to notice the effects that it gives you.
Work with the consumer ones first and get a handle on it. Order MX301 now if you want but IMO you would notice the effects better once you have a grasp of how to spot hits and IOI’s. If you haven’t gotten any results from any of this yet then I would just wait it out and be patient with the testing.
MX301 ($19.95) is one of the ICM mixes by Steve, it’s got several molecules in there. It’s more geared toward sexual attraction. A314 is my base product for everything, it helps you to become the alpha male in the situation.
okay…i see. i just heard that mx301 was like a spray version maybe it was something else. youre right im jumping too far ahead again…i’m definite i can spot hits though im very observational.
Frankly I recommend you work with what you have first and get those working before you invest in anything else. If your not getting results from the guaranteed products its not going to be easier with the Test products.
If you want help though we need more info.
How much did you wear exactly ?
Where did you wear it to (environment) ?
Where did you apply it ?
How long did you have it on before you were exposed to people ?
Pheromones are for signaling others. Only about half the users feel any self effects from any of them and those can be short lived. They work on the subconscious mind and your conscious of them. Dont judge them by self effects.
You announced your “first shipment arrived” on August 5th and today is the 9th. How did you test 3 products correctly for dosage in just 3 days ?
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Where did you use TUTH ? TUTH is to be used in a sexual situation to “turn up the heat”. Its best used with a girl who already has a comfort level with you. Girls in your age range generally dont have a comfort level with sex.
Ishine can take a hour or take up to a week of use to see results with. Only because the type of hits you get with it are sometimes hard to pick up on. Unless your aware of peoples moods and can pick up on body language well then it could take more time then 3 days.
In the last 3 days where did you use IG ? What kind of situations were you in ? On the bus, at school, shopping etc etc.
Its OK to say they didnt work when you truly tested them correctly. Pheromones are not for everyone and they are only a small part of attraction but to say they are not working with little to no information on how you used them really is not fair to Androtics.
I think it comes down to the ol saying,
You need to walk, before you run.
I have been using a few of the products for about three months now
I can honestly say I am seeing results. both in the people around me and to myself.
I did quite a bit of reading from seasoned Vets, BEFORE my shipment came in.
Basicly coz I am Scottish and we are notoriously frugal with our cash
So I wanted to do it right.
There are two posts that I have bookmarked, and are both worth reading (esp the first one).
Ok so you got some good responses here. Tish was able to say what I was trying to say to you, but she actually made sense. Thanks Tish.
I hope you will pay attention and use this wisdom. I have done a lot of reading on this forum. I see 2 types of people here. Those that carefully test, including hypothesizing and gathering data over periods of time and those that just throw shit at the wall hoping that it sticks.
If you know anything about dealing with people, you should know that it’s not always simple. Pheromones are primarily a form of communication. Communication goes both ways. If you aren’t getting the response you expect, you aren’t communicating the way that person needs you to.
It’s better to go ahead and test the product with the guaranteed results first.
MX347 does have A314 qualities and besides the quick hitting nature of it, it’s just like A314 for me. But it took me 3 weeks to really notice and changes or differences so that’s probably not going to give you the most direct hits you’re looking for.
Pheromones IMO get the rep of having the “Axe” effect that people misconstrued as having blatant in your face hits. For example, regardless of whether a woman likes you or not or is turned on by you, if you don’t know what to look for or be receptive to the signs, then she might as well be disinterested in you because it won’t matter. That’s how pheromones are, hence why there is a sweet spot testing stage. I would never tell someone not to buy products but I just think you won’t understand the effects until you have a better sense to it.
Haha, you make it seem as if I am fighting them. I’m grateful for my free cologne samples, I just stated that I haven’t seen any significant results. I’ll use steve’s testing method, but I don’t feel as though I have enough left in the bottles supplied to me…
There is a money back guarantee, so regardless you’re safe. But if you’re looking for blatant in your face hits without having to seem like you’re putting any effort into it, then I don’t know if pheromones are for you.
Again if you decide hey listen, this has some creedence for it, then buy the product (provided there aren’t any financial constraints) and just test it out, follow the steps that others that began the same journey as you have. Keep an open mind and make things happen, spraying 2-3 of a product won’t automatically enhance your attraction from females if your body language and actions says otherwise, people won’t be open to you if you don’t open up to people. People won’t respect you if you slouch, not make eye contact, and are shy. None of this things will work for you if you don’t bother trying it out.
With the spray bottles and other products there is sufficient time and financial freedom in testing AD’s products. They make it so EASY for you, first the $25 GC, then the forum, then the MONEY BACK guarantee. You have forum members on her trying to help you with YEARS and YEARS of experience but yet you’re just giving every excuse out there on why it won’t work. You seem to have a hard stance of, if this to-go doesn’t work and give me what I think hits are, then it’s a lost cause if you won’t compromise and open your mind.
Either way I hope you change your outlook and go at this with an even more open mind and let the hits come as they may, stop looking, and produce the results, don’t let this elad the way for you, you have to lead it.