The Ladies vs. TUTH

I’ve heard of the rule: the more you spray the older the women you’ll attract with TUTH, so to attract young ladies, limit your sprays to 1-2.
The question I want to ask is: how do the ladies between 40 and 50 perceive you with 1 spray? … with 2 sprays? Do they perceive an overt sexual message oriented toward younger women? Do they even perceive it at all? Or do they begin to perceive it from 3+ sprays?

Grazias!!

I think older women have less sensitive noses so the higher doses are needed. Younger girls have more sensitive responses to pheros, so they are put of by over dose of TUTH.

Err.. less sensitive noses?? :open_mouth:I thought it was because we are more confident in ourselves and less threatened and more appreciative of a man who gives off a strong sexual signature than younger women.:confused:

May

I was trying to say in a nice way that menopuasal women are more sexually inclined.

But does “older women” = “menopausal”?

I can huff turn up the heat straight from the bottle. I love the smell of the stuff, and I’m not menopausal.

I might be wrong but I assumed that women from their late twenties early thirties onwards are more likely to run towards, rather than away from, larger amounts of Turn Up The Heat. Whereas with the younger female demographic the opposite appears to be the case and for them less is more?

Can anyone clarify? As I am confused… :confused:

May

well may, you are asking my question :smiley:

I am not menopausal either. I am just horny :open_mouth: LOL only kidding… well sort of…

I am 41 and probably wont hit menapause until I am around 55 like my mom and all her sisters did. I have heard of people starting before then though.

I little bit will effect me I love the smell and can huff it out of the bottle but it will make me cranky if I do it to long. I have put just a tiny dab under my nose before going to bed to heat things up. My friend at work wears it he is 50 and can use anywhere from 2 to 4 sprays and young and old will hit on him including me but I will control myself. If he wears more then that at least around me I get cranky and mean but I am still horny while I bitch at him LOL

Habi (let me save you) LOL :smiley: I think what you ment to say was as women age into mature sexy creatures they reach there peak sexually and are less inhibited because of life experiences. right… just say yes…

Just teasing you Habi :wink:

Tisha

My theory (supported by my experiences) is that with increasing age the ability to detect -none decreases in women - just similar to the decrease in naturally produced -none in aging men. Therefore a high amount of -none might attract older ladies but scares the young ones away. So yeah, the older your ‘target group’ the more -none you can wear…

See Bob I just dont agree with that. I dont think womens ability to detect any pheromone ever really decreases. I just think that maturity makes us handle it different then when we were young. I know as men age they make less of it. So the older you are the more none you can wear.

Same gos for cops. Women make less as they age but men never lose the abiltity to detect them just because they are older. Older women need to use more cops to get the same effect as young women.

I think the only reason it may scare young women away is because they are inmature and just not willing to go were your pheromone is leading them. I am not saying this of all young women because as I have said my 50 year old friend has been using it for a few months now and has been hit on by girls still in high school. I think it depends more on how mature and confident they are. Just my opinion.

Tisha

This is probably a clearer summation of my understanding of this too. :slight_smile:

So. “What Tisha said!” :slight_smile:

May

As I said - it’s a theory! :smiley:

Yeah, you could be right about the immaturity factor. I just had the experience that wearing relatively high amounts of -none gave me looks of the women age 40 and up, but scared men and young women away. I have a cute girl age 21 in my office and have been wearing a little -none there (just one or two dabs NPA!) for a week or two and during this time she made sure to hold a distance of at least two meters from me (I could actually see her drawing circles around me). When not wearing any -none she was the complete opposite - cuddly, coming very near me, quite a lot of kino for a colleague…

And why would that decrease in the ability to detect -none not be possible? Detecting pheromones is a kind of sense just as looking and hearing, and both abilities most of the time decrease with age. And biologically seen - detecting -none as a sexual attractant just isn’t needed anymore after the menopause (just to make sure: I’m talking about the biological side).

I have never seen any research indicating that production of copulins decrease as women increase in age (short of menopause)…

Cutler of Athena Institute did the research on it. Its also been talked about in the ladies forum for a long time. Also women dont produce as much copulans when they are on the pill. It has to do with ovulation and as women age they ovulate less and ovulation is interupted when on the pill.

Good point Bob, now that you put it that way it is possible but I dont think it go’s across the board for all men or women. All older people dont lose there sight or hearing so all of them wont lose there sense of smell either. But your right some will.

I dont agree that none is not needed after menopause. Its my theory that this is why some older women will still go for a younger man and vice versa. We can still detect none and cops as we age and we attract to the strongest breeder even though breeding is done.
I think as men change they produce more Androsterone and less none and sometimes if a younger girl needs a father figure in there life for emotional reasons they will attract to the older man.

Of course this is just my theory and I could be wrong but everything I have read and experienced thus far leads in that direction.

Tisha

Androstenone (main pheromone in Turn Up The Heat) gives off a very aggressive, masculine vibe. Like you say older women (relatively speaking) tend to be more confident and comfortable in their skin…more able to stand toe-to-toe with these highly aggressive characteristics. To older women, these strong, aggressive characteristics are attractive, so long as they aren’t excessive. I’d even venture to say that the more sexually experienced (and thus older) a woman is, the more exposure to natural androstenone she has, and the more likely she is to subconsciously associate androstenone to sex.

Younger women have much to grow and learn about their own self-confidence…especially their confidence sexually, and will likely find high doses of androstenone more intimidating than attractive. High doses of androstenone used on younger girls can actually be detrimental when it comes to young women; instead of building attraction, it can have the opposite effect: it can repel. Also younger women have a different set of standards as far as what’s attractive to them. The characteristics in men that many younger women find attractive are quite a bit less masculine…they’re drawn to more more boyish and youthful characteristics…many times borderline feminine. I mean look at the male celebrities that many younger women find attractive (and younger men try to emulate) vs those that older women find attractive and it paints a very clear picture as to how a woman’s taste in men matures with age. This is also why A314 doesn’t work as well for younger me too. A314 creates a very strong, masculine, yet subdued vibe. Younger women may perceive this as being too serious, too intimidating, too authoritative.

Now I thought that younger men produced way more androstenone naturally than older men. Does this mean that older women are naturally more attracted to younger men? And younger women would be more attracted to old guys who no longer produce much androstenone.

This is kind of odd an odd premise considering that people typically mate up with others in the same age range.

Additionally, I know of a few older women who do not seem to be very experienced or good at reading men. And I know a few young chicas who are extremely good at twisting anything male around their pinkies. So I wonder what none would do to them, respectively?

Send them to me and we’ll find out! All in the name of science of course! :smiley:

I’ll have to agree with Sigma 100%, especially about relationship of sexual experience to response to androstenone. It is rare to find a confident and sexually experienced young woman–and I don’t mean has experienced lots of bad sex–I mean she is totally attuned to her sexuality. However they do exist. Unfortunately they tend to be married or in long term relationships! I can say from personal experience wearing large amounts of TE or NPA has helped attract women in their early 20s, all of whom were surprisingly aggressive and, unfortunately, married! However they were totally attuned to her sexuality and not shy to express it.

As for less experienced young women, large amounts of androstenone tends to make them nervous initially. However, with repeated encounters and a little charm, they eventually get used to it and realize a sexual attraction. It merely takes them longer to come to terms with what’s going on. Finally, my very anecdotal experiences indicate race plays a significant role in response to androstenone. East Asian women–Korean, Japanese or Chinese–are the least comfortable with androstenone. Southeast Asians–especially Vietnamese and Filipina–tend to tolerate it and in many cases quickly respond in a positive manner. Young Black women are often at ease and responsive to androstenone. I haven’t figured out White women as they seem to be all over the place in responses, but seem more tolerate than most Asians. Of course I’m speaking as an older Korean male, so a young Black man all moned up will probably have different results.

Thank you Tisha… Thats exactly what i meant…:smiley: :smiley: :wink: