Have you tried using it with A314 or Mx103? OD-like effect meaning people ignoring you or people acting hostile towards you?
One years seems like a pretty stern stand, probably it should be about 3 months. Those newbies who are serious & provide regular feedback, then they should be allowed. Also maybe a “midline” category can be created of those pheros which hav shown consistent results like P74, P79, P83, P86, MX 103 & other such mixes & also the dosage that an individual buys can be restricted to some extent. Just because few newbies have been irresponsible, everyone should not be punished. Just my opinion, to all the advanced & senior users. 
You doing a g8 job TATER…love this thread.
helius
Although Jasmin has posted “1 year” (see “special orders not accepted” thread)
I am sure if your a responsible newbie and report on products consistantly there will be considerations. I am unsure how the 2 sections will be seperated when the new setup is done but it will make things more smooth and quick which is important to alot of members as well as the business.
Products in the advanced section are sold at a lose to Androtics. We are only supposed to get 1 bottle of each and then they compile the reports from the forum and from off forum members and this is where the consumer products come from.
Alot of people dont know how to post a accurate detailed report.
Think of it this way. The more accurate and detailed your report is the quicker some of these mixes can be made consumers products.
Tisha
MadisonTate Yo bro its good to be back after a few months. I see your a big phero bad ass now. Sweet. 
I want your thoughts on these mixes.
AndrosteNone 0.5mcg, AndrosteRone 5mcg, Beta Androstenol 7.5mcg, P74 7.5mcg, P93 10mcg. 30.5mcg per spray. Maybe with Mx138 as a special additive. 
or second mix, just MX138 mixed with MX149. Whatever ratio.
Actually if you can test mix MX138 and 149 in different ratios. I would owe you one.
Thanks man.
- Theres more than one way to get around an OD. Tater buffered a heavy mix of .40 ml MX178 with EST and androstadienone and seemed to get all the benefits of androstenone without getting beaten to a pulp. It may be possible to sink an insane amount of a phero into a buffering agent and get the best of both worlds. I intend to do the same with MX101 to see if i can cancel out what seems to be an androstenone OD when i use it.
I suspect that would make the OD worse if its what i think. Both of those contain some androstenone. Ignoring and acting mildly hostile.
Sounds like an interesting kitchen sink mix. Let me know how it turns out. Tater tries not to mix MX with MX because its like mixing an unknown with another unknown. No matter what you do you dont know what youre doing. I only do that if its something like MX158 where i know that its P83/12.5mcg. I could mix MX222 with MX156 but wouldnt have any ideas on what to expect, what to add…
Tater hopes exceptions will be made since hes only been around since late June (4 months). It would be painful to sit on the sidelines for 8 months.
I am sure she will because you post about allmost all the products you have tried. I would just make them more explicit and more detailed in the future so androtics can use the info.
In the past this is what they have asked for in a product report.
It dosnt have to be exactly like that but all of the info needs to be in the post. Also keep in mind that they want info on the single product before we start mixing them. So you need to test say 1 putative, by itself for about a week at different dosages to test the consistancy/ level of the effects.
Tisha
If people are ignoring you, then A314 or Mx103 can alleviate that problem since MX101 or Pheromoneproof does not have -rone. I don’t know which setting you’re using MX101, but I highly do not recommend using in professional/work setting. MX101 seems to be great for first 4-5 hours (even better when used in conjunction with A314), but after that time limit you start to notice negative effects. Based on my experience and what I learned from this forum, the buffers mixed with heavy -none in MX101 (7.5mcg per spray) tends to die out as the hours pass while -none still remain. As a result, when certain amount of time passes you start to see an OD effect.
From my experience, I found hostility from women (mostly) after certain hours (usually at around 6th hour after application). Even the girls who are really into me start to act defensive afterhours, but its completely different reactions during the first couple hours.
Well, i was hoping it would be able to stand on its own. MX101 is supposed to be a premier mix, but it seems to need substantial assistance for me to get anything positive from it. Im guessing its better on those who are much more androstenone-deficient, either older or perhaps the predominately Asian/Caucasian. I dont OD on androstenone that easily, so im thinking Futurist mustve been in his 50s. Tater got positive but erratic results from 1 spray MX102 + 4x Turn Up the Heat. That shouldve given me 10-12.5 mcg androstenone which should be much worse than 1/2 spray MX101.
- Tater has noticed that the initial resistance to a new phero applies to self-effects as well. It can take 4-10 exposures to a pheromone for you to see the self-effect, possibly because some type of resistance has to be eaten away. Thats what happened to me with TAC and P86, possibly Instant Shine had some initial delay too. This is why World Domination is based around a long-term phero-signature shift instead of adjusting every 30 minutes. It can easily take a month of wearing a mix to get the full effect.
I think once in a while a sensible experimenter must try something odd, illogical, impractical. Its not like great things never get discovered on a wim.
Life up to that name “Mad Tater”.
Besides I only choose MX138 and MX149 because I know what they do and MX138 has been added to other MXs. With good success. I want to see if adding two will make a seducer mix. Besides both are not “strong dosed” MXs so you should not have any problem.
Can you try 2 sprays of MX138 and 3 sprays of MX149. Just for the heck of it.
Where did everybody go? There are so few posts from all the Fs like Snook and Ninja. Back to school?
Maybe things have slowed down while Androtics is reorganizing. Eventually, when Tater gets his Dirty, we need somebody around to help with the World Domination project.
BTW, Fs means funky forum fffffff…olk.
Tater just made his 1000th post. Its the Tater Tot Thousand!
so you are saying that you are gaining a tolerance? So would that mean that if you got a gf and met her using phero’s, and use phero’s around her for much of the time you are around her, that she’ll start to grow a tolerance towards certain phero signatures? or all phero signatures?
She would grow accustomed to yours, which is why youll see people talk about varying your signature. The interesting thing is that your body will slowly begin to compete with the signature youre wearing artificially.
well what I meant was, would she start to gain a tolerance towards phero’s in general, say beccause of varying your signature?
Good question. Wish i knew the answer…
Ive only been here for 4 months. Maybe one of the old-timers can answer your question. My guess is that it varies depending on the pheromone. Androstenone affects 80-year old women whove been sniffing men all their lives. But androstenol doesnt affect me as much as at first, possibly because ive trained myself not to react. I dont know.
Considering that im out of MX149 and may not be able to order any until ive been here for a year with the new rules, thats not possible. If you want to make a contribution and send Tater a gift by way of Jasmin, however…