- The more closely related someone is to you, the more easily they can isolate your pheros and may find them offensive. Its not about being accustomed to you. An adopted sibling, for example, may not detect the phero change while im betting that a twin sibling would immediately pick up on something different. Why? You cant pick out your own phero signature. Its invisible to you. So if you apply a fragrance or phero, you can immediately pick it out. Same thing happens when a close relative smells you. You smell like them. Anything added is just as intense as when you got your first whiff of it.
- Tater theorizes that the difference in phero signatures causes attraction possibly more than the outright signal is some cases. A heavy androstenone signature is atypical for Asians, so an Asian with a reasonably amount of androstenone becomes much more attractive, especially for Caucasian women. I think thats why MX203 gives such extreme hits for Tater, even though MX203 makes my stomach curdle and seems to have similar effects on other non-Caucasians. In fact, let me define the term… Light up…a full body positive phero effect where the target suddenly becomes very happy youre around.
- DIHL is symptomatic of confusion generally caused by an unexpected and incongruent phero reaction. A DIHL means you failed, not that youve got the right phero mix, but that you went too far. Only once your target comes back from the DIHL can you get a useful hit. DIHL and OD are both similar and related. A product you get DIHL easily from is also going to be one you get easy OD from. That also means that, just like you can get a useful hit after a DIHL has died down, you can get a useful hit after an OD has died down.
- Hey people! Taters doing some MAD science for your benefit. If you cant send biscuits, the least you can do is send some rep points. Im just not feeling the love…
- Applying pheros to your pulse points tends to get them heated (and thereby increases dissipation) at the right times. But thats not always what you want. For example, in most circumstances you dont want more IFM (androstadienone) to dissipate when you get hot and sweaty. But if youre planning a makeout session, you need to apply the Turn Up the Heat (androstenone) where it will ramp up when the heat does go up (ha ha). If the theory holds, neither men nor women should apply copulins to a pulse point. It wouldnt make sense.
Androstenone makes me want to workout harder. EST seems to make me more pain-tolerant but also cancels out the androstenone brutishness.
Older women = late 30s onward. In this case especially those in the late 40s-50s.
Tater is taking a break to regroup and do inventory. I dont have enough pheros right now to do any interesting experiments. Maybe ill just play with the straight SmartMones for a while…
Hey tate, Don’t worry I’m sending you some e-love in the form of rep points!!
i’m lovin your journal man, keep it coming!
Ditto… Your journal f****n’ rocks, man! I’d send ya some biscuits, I am in the deep south (land of the bestest biscuits), but I am afeared the gravy might spoil in the mail. Settle for some rep?
Keep the posts coming… it’s become part of my daily routine to see what wonderful ideas / mixes you’ve conjured for us noobs.
-CM
Awww… Thanks Cookie! Whazzat about biscuits and gravy?
Biscuits and Gravy… the best tasting heart attack you’ll ever wind up in the ER with… We all gotta go sometime, I choose to go with a belly full of delicious, and livin’ like a true playa…YEAAAAHHH (Like Lil’ Jon would say YEAAAAHHH)!!!
-CM
Tater: BBBIIISCUITT!!
Lil Jon: WWHUUUTT!!! EEYEEEEAAAHH!!
So what you find are knock outs for Africans descent women under 28? ![]()
Thought i answered that already. Hmmm… Whered my post go?
—copied from another thread…
Light-skinned “high yeller” girls under 25 respond very well to Come Talk to Me, Instant Honesty, Instant Shine and EST (the latter of which you may not be able to order, but can get from elsewhere). All of these work really well in your hair if you have a style where you can wash it thoroughly and condition it. You don’t want build-up. If she’s part Asian or part Caucasian, this is your best option.
Dark-skinned girls under 25 respond very well to a spray imitation of A314 called MX103 (which is also for advanced users only). A314, however, also works well at heavier doses, presumably because the oil slows dissipation so much and you cant (shouldnt) put oil in your hair. Add Instant Female Magic and Come Talk to Me or Instant Female Magic + heavy Instant Honesty and youll do well. Just tune to perfection.
Most importantly, you need to find a youthful, but not childish (and not gay) scent for yourself. If you offend a black woman’s sensibilities, you may not be able to recover. I suggest you use either CTTM:Instant Female Magic:Shine:A314 at 8:1:3 with 2 drops A314 or Instant Honesty:Instant Female Magic:Shine:A314 at 16:2:2 with 2 drops A314, then adjust for conversation, touch level, masculinity and the all-important menstrual cycle. I wore that with heavy EST + Sean Jean on hair to a family reunion and my aunts, cousins, sisters, visiting friends, everybody from 2 to 70 thought i was the hottest thing since habaneros. The 15-25 year old women present were possessive and wouldnt let me out of their sight.
Androstenone is NOT something i recommend black males wear, unless theyre going after Latinas or Caucasian women, or are carefully hiding it in their own sweat or buffering it. The whole thing about black men putting out a lot of androstenone seems to be a fallacy though, at least in my case and one of my friends. Whatever i put out when im working out DILUTES androstenone quickly. Notice in my journal i say that androstenone may be a Caucasian phenomena. If you buffer it heavily or smother it with your own sweat (e.g. work out at the gym while wearing), you can wear a ton of it. Now, it WILL make YOU hostile at high dosages. Black women also are not androstenone-lovers. They can detect androstenone AND androstadienone more easily than some Asian women it seems. Ive also noticed that black women who i know have previously dated white men respond well to androstenone. Those who have NOT dated white men, especially the racist, separatist, militant, i-hate-white-people sort have the keenest negative responses to androstenone. That adds more fuel to my theory that theres some important difference in background pheros.
Well, let me add a bit to that. Androstenone, much like MX203, is amazing for me when i approach a Caucasian woman. I posted somewhere about one of my workout sessions where i got hard hits from both Caucasian and Asian women, which is not what i wouldve expected based on the comments here.
Also, everyone should keep in mind that Latinos are effectively Caucasians who had ancestors that lived in more temperate climates…at least mostly. One of my testing buddies has this huge theory that comestible availability is different in hotter and more humid climates, which makes spices more common (as a food preservative) and also changes the pheromonal responses based on the types of things that are good/bad. Tater agrees that a womans diet is a huge clue on which pheros she will respond well to. Africans, followed by Asians would have the MOST evolved sense of smell and should have the most sensitivity to pheros. Interestingly enough, i get much harder hits with far lower dosages, with Africans and Asians, and the nuances seem to matter much more. Some of the posts on this forum also speak of over-the-top responses where Caucasians and Latinas respond more mildly. Im even wondering if the waves-of-illness effect caused by MX203 for some of my non-Caucasian friends and myself is because its way too much, while for the palest-skinned Caucasians, its at the high end of their range, but not an all out overload. I think Snook was also disappointed that MX203 wasnt as well received on medium-skinned to dark-skinned Latinas as you would think…possibly some relationship between melanin and response to one of the ingredients?
Okay…Taters revealing too many deep thoughts, and this isnt even his journal thread. That deep thought was for free, but im going to bed now.
Okay…one more freebie… Instant Female Magic, well-masked by a good fragrance may be all you need for Instant African/Black Magic. The fragrance choice is the most important thing and you need less Instant Female Magic than you might think. A placebo doesnt work the same, but with African/Asian women, especially Redbone or Japanese, you really need to pay attention to your cover fragrance or youll cancel out everything.
Darn. Im really lucid right now, so id better put this somewhere. I got attention from Japanese women (moms and daughters) at the gym with insanely heavy androstenone and light dustings of Le Male (which has a heavy vanilla accent) and Hanae Mori (which has a lavender and vanilla, almost baby powder, clean kind of scent). That needs further thought.
tate my friend, what cover fragrance do u suggest for instant female magic?!
OH holy BISCUITS,
Tater, have you been rummaging through my man’s medicine closet again? Keep out of there! You’re sharing all my secrets! I want my le male back!
But,
While I gotcha here (I dunno if you’re still lucid, BUT:
Your thoughts:
Akuto Fragrance (Chemical Romance) vs Le Male.
… but Akuto is… mmm… what happens when we reach the bottom of the mud soaked hill with our clothes tumbled off, with mud soaked bodies and tiger eye glares…
(Is that too abstract a concept?? hehehe)
SO!
Akuto vs Le Male: