LOL dude you fucking crack me up.
Testing out Steve’s interesting blend.
To follow Steve’s thread about this blend:
Mix:
P74, P91, P83 Mixed in 5ml ToGo @ 2.5 mcg per spray
This sounded like a very promising mix for a particular target I will be seeing later this week so I wanted to get in a couple of days of testing.
App Points and Dosage:
2 sprays L, R Neck
Venue:
Work @ Starbucks
Application Time:
1:00 PM Shift started at 1:30 pm
Weather / Temp:
Inside grocery store near the refrigerated aisles so cool at approximately 72-74 degrees. No humidity.
Distance:
2-3 feet from targets.
Self-Effects:
No noticeable self effects but when smelling P91 for the first time before mixing it it had some really sweet notes that seemed to rise above the neroli. After mixing all three, it almost smelled like patchouli.
Effects On Others:
I actually wore this in 2 locations. One in a business setting where the women are in their late mid 30’s to late 40’s.
This mix did not seem to have any effect on them whatsoever during this first day of testing.
While at work, once again this did not seem to affect any of the women I worked with on this shift. The average age range of the women in my new store is probably around 31-32.
The area I am now working in is near Sun City which is a retirement community on the outskirts of Vegas. Most customers are in their 50’s on up. We do have some young professionals, it is an affluent community and predominantly caucasian.
It was while interacting with my customers at Starbucks did I notice a pattern. Young women and girls in the age ranges of 12-20 were affected.
There was nothing sexual about any of the hits, but almost every young girl with the exception of a couple experienced pupil dilation in ways I have not seen in quite some time. Their gorgeous moms standing right next to them were completely unaffected as were their male siblings.
I could have a family of 3 standing in front of me, mom and brother’s pupils the size of pin points in a well lit area and the sister’s pupils almost filling her entire iris. I saw this on almost every occasion.
At first I just played it off because I was looking for hits coming from all directions, but preferably women in their late 20’s to early 30’s. But these young girls’ eyes were all just so glaringly noticeable. It would honestly just make me stop what I was doing, look around to see if there was something else that could have triggered it. If it only happened once or even a couple of times I would have dismissed it, but it happened in every instance. One young girl about age 15 was just non-stop “thank yous.”
I want to give this mix a run in other venues where I’m more likely to hit my target age range, book stores, bar, club, another coffee shop with a younger demo than Sun City, etc.
I would then like to toss in a bit of -none and attempt this mix at the clubs as well.
Anyway, I hope this report helps to shed some light on your mix Steve. I’ve got an almost full 5ml to play with.
Give me some of that old time religion
Mix:
P74 , P91 , P83 Mixed in 5ml ToGo @ 2.5 mcg per spray
While this was at a “church function.” I haven’t quite yet experienced anything so inappropriate to warrant concern. But there are (yes I’m a sickly bastard) a couple of desirable targets who frequent this Church so what the hell.
Cover Scent:
Angel for Men by Thierry Mugler
App Points and Dosage:
2 sprays L, R Neck
Venue:
Church Function
We do a variety of charity work, and one of them is a Church we sponsor. This is in one of the worst neighborhoods in Vegas, but there are some really good people who are trying hard to improve their lives going there.
In some cases, only one apt has electricity and everyone around there shares it, and another provides the water etc.
We generally feed the children lunch and provide some entertainment, and then after services we feed the adults. For some this is their only meal of the day
Application Time:
10:00 am, arrived approximately 10:20 am
Weather / Temp:
Cool outdoors in the low 80’s.
Warmer inside until A/C was turned on. Roughly 73 degrees, but somewhat muggy.
Distance:
2-3 feet from targets.
Self-Effects:
Still no real noticeable self-effects.
Effects On Others:
Coffee Girl - 25-32 years old, Caucasian, very attractive.
I mentioned this cutie in a post awhile back. She had been eying me when we first saw each other, then at one point just came over and intro’d herself to me.
I saw her again yesterday, she again was intrigued, I could see it in her eyes. She smiled when I arrived, but the strange thing was she kept her distance, but kept eying me throughout the entire morning. She would go out of her way, leaning around people etc just to see what I was up to.
I did attempt to open her up a couple of times, but didn’t get anywhere. It was rather strange.
Suzie-Q - 35 years old Caucasian, somewhat attractive. Very strong and confident woman who just adores me.
I mentioned Suzie in the last post about this Church. She was the one who went in for 2nds when it came to smelling my neck. She didn’t react this time towards my scent. But she did linger around much more than she did last time.
She invited me outback so she could have a smoke. We quickly got to talking about relationships and dating. She told me in no uncertain terms that I knew exactly what a woman was looking for in this day and age in a man. She then told me she wanted to get together with me and discuss this all some more.
Throughout the day I would do small checks for compliance and rapport. She was matching body language. At one time when we were talking with another group of people, I slid my arm around her and put my hand on the small of her back. And when she came to give me a hug when she left, I didn’t do the friends arms over her shoulder type hug I gave her earlier that morning, I put my arm around her waist and pulled her in tight.
she was a bit flustered after that, it was very apparent she wasn’t thinking clearly after that…LOL. Fun fun fun.
Thoughts and Conclusions:
I can’t wait to see where Steve is taking this mix. I for one want to layer in a few more components for shits and giggles to see what they could do with an already subtle but powerful little mix.
There are some interesting elements to this combo.
Socials For a Younger Target
I have been working various stores throughout the Vegas valley to help out where staffing is needed. I am spending 2 weeks in a store across town and last week I met one of the girls who worked in another department. I usually don’t go for this young a female, but something about her intrigued me. She’s only 19 years old, long blonde hair, big blue eyes and just smart as hell.
I noticed her, but only decided to act on my interest as she kept coming around and complimenting me and offering her help over and over. As they say proximity is an IOI, well this girl definitely made sure to be nearby and available.
I’ve been wearing socials to this store in lieu of the more “sexual” products. Mainly IS, IO or IH. Well today, a bit of IS and IH got me a number close.
Mix:
IH + IS
App Points, Dosage and Time:
11:45 am, shift started at noon
2 sprays IH - L, R sides of neck
4 sprays of IS - back of neck and hair.
Reapplication
4:00 pm approximately
4 sprays IS - back of neck and hair
Venue:
Starbucks / Grocery Store
Weather / Temp:
Beautiful sunny day in the upper 80’s
Distance:
1-3 feet from target
Self-Effects:
Self-Effects from IS seem to be waning.
Effects On Others:
co-ed girl - 19 years old
I have already been getting IOI’s from this girl at other times, but today was much more blatant but I also turned up the teasing and “cocky funny” on her.
I was having my lunch and she sat down and started to chat me up. She kept stopping by to chat and complimented me on a variety of things often.
As I passed her by on my way to the break room she offered up whatever it was she was eating.
I just kept teasing her and she responded very well. She then informed me that she would be transferring to another store and we might not see each other anymore. Well at this point in time I figured fuck it…this girl might be the funnest chick I’d ever come across, I could be missing out on something very special so I told her we should definitely see more of each other, that’s when we swapped info and she told me she would be texting me as soon as she got home tonight.
General consensus from overall customers and co-workers is that these socials do make you a customer service superstar. I got compliments all night long from customers who appreciated my help and service.
INTERESTING NEGATIVE REACTIONS
The customer base at this store is a bit older, and highly successful. A lot of celebrities shop here like Matt Damon, Mike Tyson etc. Most as I said are older in their late 50’s and high maintenance.
Within half an hour of my first application I had 3 very negative interactions back to back all with white men in their late 50’s.
I was very confused about it, in fact the way they behaved was as if I was some being much lower than them, and one is a customer who I’ve served a number of times in the past couple of weeks and had no issues with whatsoever.
The only conclusions I can come up with is that this age group does not like to share their feelings, or bond with strange men LOL. And that these confusing feelings they were getting had to be dealt with in the only manner they understood when confronted with something that confuses them, with anger.
They all three treated me rather poorly and talked down to me. The one customer who I had served in the past, his behavior utterly confused the staff who serve him on a daily basis. The assistant manager at that store was like, “Tom said that?!”
Final Thoughts
I chose the socials, especially high amounts of IS with that target in mind. Fuck the old geezers, I was wanting to get this girl’s digits and it worked.
I made sure to steer away from anything aggressive in terms of mones, as her personality just didn’t seem to fit with that kind of signal. If she had been a wilder girl, maybe, but she seems to be open, but a bit more reserved in the dating / sex department.
Maybe, from long term use of alpha products and your journey to become more alpha showed through your demeanor and they didn’t know how to react to that. Typically people who are condescending to others feel threatened, that they need to assert a level or social hierarchy and put down someone they feel is a threat.
How old are you… ? ( I am assuming that IS made you feel good while it failed to reach the nostrils of the sour customer standing across the counter and your customer was mad that you are happy while he is sour 
another unrelated Q: why wear IH on the neck.. would it not affect you ?
Not to hijack tg.
No matter where you put it on, if you’re affecting people a few feet away, what makes you think it’s not going to affect you. The diffusion of the mones is based off of body heat, in an environment where there are larger crowds and bigger spaces, you want to hit the pulse points so that it’ll diffuse better, wrists, IMO, isn’t as effective n that respect.
If someone wears IH, you would get affected, so wherever it is diffusing it’s still the same.
Yep I’ve been saying it and saying it; Ishine will get the digits every time consistently over any other product I’ve ever worn! Great report and another vote from me for TOTW
You my cracker Steve!
LMAO I just got that now.
P130 Solo Test
Mix:
P130
App Points, Dosage and Time:
1:10 Shift started at 1:30pm
2s, 1 each side of neck
Venue:
Starbucks / Grocery Store
Weather / Temp:
Warm, muggy outdoors.
Indoors controlled temperature at approximately 74 degrees.
Distance:
1-3 feet from target
Self-Effects:
I have tested P130 a couple of times, once just at home for a self-effects test and have gotten similar results…nothing huge, just real subtle.
I only worked a 6 hour shift, but it seemed as if the day went by effortlessly. I stayed fairly focused on the duties at hand (Not saying this caused focus) it was more like a whistle while you work kind of feeling.
To just go back and look at the entire shift as an overall picture, I would just say that things were smooth. I wasn’t brimming with happiness, no smile from ear to ear, just chill, smooth, like Billy Dee Williams drinking some Colt 45.
Effects On Others:
This isn’t a blatant putative. This isn’t one of your over the top products, this however seems like its one of those things you can add to tame the beast of let’s say -none.
Once again, if I were to describe the day and pretty much all of my interactions with customers and co-workers what word would I use? Smooth.
Everyone, and I mean everyone who came into contact with me was polite. Not a single high energy person that might get on my nerves, no clingy depressed person who needed a shoulder to cry on for the price of a tall cup of coffee, and no pmsing bitch with the child she should have swallowed during the act of conception.
Final Thoughts and Conclusions:
I have tested this at home alone, I have tested this at work, it is time to test this in a purely social environment solo to see if my experiences match.
ICM 2.0 Day 1
Just a reminder, when I use the word “target” its generic for subject. Could be guy or girl not always someone I’m actually interested in.
Mix:
ICM 2.0
App Points, Dosage and Time:
1:00 Shift started at 1:30
2 Sprays 1 each side of neck
Venue:
Starbucks / Grocery Store
Weather / Temp:
Hot and dry outside, but cool indoors, some humidity due to store’s cooling system and lots of water in the box.
Distance:
1-3 feet from targets
Self-Effects:
I didn’t feel any self-effects that I know of. I was pretty chill that day, just had this not being fazed kind of feeling, but I was chalking it up to lack of sleep due to going out alot.
Effects On Others:
Target 1: Special Needs Social Butterfly (co-worker) White female age 24-27
Not to sound like a dick, but this is a party girl who at this stage of her life is still a virgin and trying to date 17 year old guys. She’s also a bit weird and goofy, which is cool at times, but others she’s so slow, she makes people with severe Dain Bramage look lively and brilliant.
Kind of hard to tell with this one, she’s so scatterbrained and all over the place.
Target 2: Amazon woman (co-worker) Tall, leggy blonde girl approximate age 22.
Not big like heavy, but big like a volleyball player big. Healthy. She is the social butterfly’s club companion. I always see IOI’s from her, and she’s definitely cute, I wouldn’t mind playing around with her for a bit. I’m already making moves in that direction.
I get pupil dilation from her in every case. Her big blue eyes just fill up with black when we start talking and she laughs at everything I say.
Real hard to tell in this case, but I will make an overall point in my final thoughts and conclusions.
Target 3: Sassy Stylist. sweet lil’ brown haired cutie in her mid 20’s.
We have one of those cool chic salons next door where all the girls are tatted up, wear stylish clothes, they’re either gothic or rockabilly types.
Well these girls always stop in either the morning or afternoon for a caffeinated beverage. I rarely see this girl, and it just so happens she came in today and started playing with something on the counter.
While I’m taking her friends order I just look at her and say in a pretty serious commanding voice, but with a hint of mischievousness in my eyes…“Put that down!”
She smirks, puts it down and plays back so I ask her friend, “is she always this bratty?”
Her friend just kind of steps back knowing where this is going and shakes her head yes…so with that I put “bratty” on her drink cup instead of her name.
That ended the interaction there, and since most days I work the afternoon shift alone I now have to go make their drinks. They start talking in the hand off window. Normally I’d keep a convo going, but didn’t want to interrupt and just finish up their drinks and as I start to hand off bratty’s drink she leans over and says..“thank you…what’s your name?” She then sees my name badge and says…“wow…cool name.”
I then tell her…“Oh yeah…I’ve got an even better last name.” Which I do, Steve can attest to that…LOL Women love my last name.
So I tell her and she says…“wow, your mom must be an amazing woman to give you that..********** … That’s real cute” As I told Steve, I didn’t like the “cute” part, but the way she said it, with this deep kind of throaty sexy growl to her voice, she thought it was more than just cute.
Her friend of course is bored and starts to walk off, and I say…“I like it.” and with one last glance over her shoulder she leaves.
I am now waiting for her to come in again to continue this convo. I do have to be careful in how I approach women, especially since I wore TUTH to work one day and got an actual complaint from a customer who said she didn’t like the way I was looking at her…LOL. I still can’t recall who that might even be.
Final Thoughts and Conclusions:
In all 3 situations there was definite comfort there. I have noticed this in other tests as well. In the 3rd, it was almost more like a connection happening kind of feeling.
I have more tests to post write ups for, but so far IMO that seems to be the strongest feeling I get from this mix is comfort. That does not mean it can’t be steered sexually. Oh it can. Its just up to the wearer to take that comfort and build on it.
ICM 2.0 Day 2
One on One situation with a "friend. This is another one of those friend zone projects that I’m testing to see if I can turn around.
This is someone who I progressively cut off from my life but not in an aggressive way. I just slowly stopped coming around, texting her etc.
I texted her to see if she wanted to run some errands with me and she jumped at the chance.
Mix:
ICM 2.0
App Points, Dosage and Time:
8:30 am, picked her up approximately 9 am.
1 spray on chest.
Venue:
Car, Wal-mart
Weather / Temp:
Hot, and humid for once in Vegas.
Car was cool, but she doesn’t like too much AC so approximately 76-78 degrees inside.
Distance:
1-3 feet from target
Self-Effects:
None that I am noticing.
Effects On Others:
This turned out into a really chill day. I did notice some longing effects for her. It was as if she didn’t really want to get out of the car and leave when the day was over. You could sense that she wanted to spend more time, but I’m playing it really cool and safe with this one. She’s a bit skittish and if I show my cards she bails with the quickness.
I did get a text after a day went by, I woke up to “Good morning!” This is very rare for her. I keep finding the same type of girl over and over. One pattern they all seem to exhibit is they won’t ever initiate a text conversation with the rare exception and that morning was one of them.
Final Thoughts and Conclusions:
Comfort keeps being the word that comes to mind. The conversation is effortless, there is no real drama, I don’t have to hear her or any chick complaining about something. They are content existing in my little world in that moment.
ICM 2.0 Day 3
On this day I tested ICM 2.0 doing pick up down on the strip with my boy Jon.
Mix:
ICM 2.0
App Points, Dosage and Time:
10pm - Got into approaching approximately 10:30pm
2s, 1 each side of neck then smeared the residue down each forearm and wrist.
Venue:
Caesars / Bellagio / Cosmopolitan
Weather / Temp:
Beautiful warm Vegas night, mid to high 80’s.
These are the nights I love Las Vegas. Just comfortable enough to walk around and not get all sweaty.
Distance:
2-5 feet.
Self-Effects:
This stuff just might be chilling me the fuck out…LOL Cuz I was like in a walking meditation most of the night. My boy Jon was kind of freaked out, thought I was in like a low depressed state of mind, but no, I was just totally present, taking nice deep breaths as though I was just walking around a flower garden and not a bunch of casinos with uber hot chicks.
Effects On Others:
Jon was a bit irritated that night, but he eventually settled in. He was saying it was my state that was bothering him, but nothing could faze me once again. At one point I finally told him, “Dude whatever the hell crawled up your ass, you need to pull it out.” He went into apologetic mode and started to explain how it was HIM who was all fucked up in the head.
I did approximately 10 approaches an hour. Nothing truly stands out, I had a few nice interactions but for the most part I would say that there was never really enough time for me to see if anything developed. It was one of those nights where you get a lot of approaches and nothing moves past there.
Final Thoughts and Conclusions:
I can only assume that my relaxed state is being caused by this. 3 x’s I’ve worn it, and 3 x’s I’ve just been extremely casual about things.
My experiences are you need about 20 minutes of good interaction for this to really manifest itself. It’s almost like a slow build up.
I would agree to an extent…yes in most cases. The open air environment of the casinos and the air filtering systems they have their for clearing out smoke might create a diffusion issue. But in some other cases where the interaction is 5 - 10 mins in a normal environment, I’ve seen some good hits.
MX 301 and Strippers!
Mix:
MIX 301
App Points, Dosage and Time:
10:30pm, Hit crowd around 11:15 pm
2 sprays on each side of neck, 1 spray split between wrists.
Venue:
Town Square open air mall, The Yard House pub, Spearmint Rhino
Weather / Temp:
Vegas is amazing at nights during the summer. Never too hot, just right for relaxing and chatting with someone outdoors.
Distance:
inches to 6 feet
Self-Effects:
with MX301 I always feel a bit more in control. Not overly confident or filled with swagger, but just a knowing that my shit is handled.
Effects On Others:
Target 1: Bar Tender Yard House Dude approximately 30-40 years old.
Got a lot of respect from this bartender, especially when he checked my ID to verify drinking age. When he noticed the birth year he looked up at me and said…“wow man, congratulations.”
I do look younger than 44, will be 45 in September. I tend to get a lot of shocked surprised looks but never from a dude and like this.
So my buddy wasn’t feeling it down at Town Square. It was ladies night at the Blue Martini next door, but he’s weird, I don’t know how else to explain it LOL.
So after some thought on where to head to next, we decided to head down to Spearmint Rhino where once again…Locals get in FREE!!!
We have since figured out that this is absolutely one of the best places to practice conversational skills and speed seduction / NLP.
The game for us is to go in, spend absolutely no $$$ and see how long we can keep a stripper interested in just talking before she bails for greener pastures.
I figured since we were in a highly sexual environment that I would go ahead and add 1 more spray of MX301 and it was only about an hour and a half since the first application. This might have been a mistake.
Target 2:
Various Strippers did approach me, but for some odd reason it was like 5:1 in my buddies favor. We were sitting in a back area where it was dark, and there were long bench like couches covered in cushions along the wall.
Girls would walk up, I’d smile some would smile back but then walk past me and sit down with Jon. Even when he had a girl with him and another stripper would come by, she would just smile at me and keep going. In a place where the world of approach is topsy turvy and the girls are gaming guys, I was not getting “hit on.” LOL
Final Thoughts and Conclusions:
Could have been an OD, or maybe Jon sitting so close was reaping the benefit of my signature. Maybe they couldn’t believe it was coming from me and attributed it to him. I don’t know, but I will attempt this again as we plan on hitting the Rhino at least once a week just for conversational practice.
I’ve noticed this too. One of my favorite haunts is the local grocery store/mall with food (it’s crazy there). Loads of people there but with the AC system, there is always a current and it tends to over diffuse anything I wear, even anything with ff21. Not the best place for testing pheros imo.
I have had some amazing results with IG + MX297 and CTTM2 in the exact same environments. So I’m beginning to wonder if I’m expecting different things out of ICM 2.0 and not seeing the more subtle hits.
In my experience so far, I’ve been really surprised at how much comfort this mix brings, I was thinking it would be a bit more “sexual.” Not saying it can’t be, just saying that I need to go in this with another frame of mind…more open to seeing what is actually going on.
And Mustang is probably right in that it needs some basting time for it to really hit. I know of another product from another place that takes 30 minutes before it really hits, it wasn’t necessarily designed that way, but then it kind of was. It doesn’t create sexual need, it triggers desire and craving…so I’m wondering if this might be similar in that it takes a few minutes to really hit all the right sensors.