Valid point. A lot of guys can miss out on what they think are minor details. And base assumptions about the mones effectiveness without taking the details into consideration.
Like IO and Shine are very fun likable mood lifting products. But you won’t get very positive response from a grieving widow that just got back from the funeral. Context is extremely important. I’m impressed that you factor that in.
4 sprays of IO, eh. What strength do you own, Smelly?
Thanks!
Thanks. Yes, it’s important to see that mones are great but not the only factor effecting responses. Why I think it’s great not to take things personally when your intent is for the best.
I have a togo bottle, 5ml, strength 1X, Version 1.0.
Definitely want to get a larger bottle now! 
But keep in mind it wasn’t only the IO that got me a makeout. I believe it definitely magnified things. But if there is no ink on the paper (social ability), no amount of magnification is going to help.
Walking Like a Fairy
Day 8, Adventure 1 - been forgetting to put these labels in my entries! Sorry bout that.
Another note: between daily applications, I always shower. I do this so I have a clean base upon which to build my findings. Don’t want the previous day’s mone applications interfering with what should be pristine data collection.
Dosage
IO - 4 sprays from “To go” bottle. Strength 1X. One spray to each side of neck, one on chest, one on back of neck. Rubbed residual sprays on neck onto both wrists.
Self-effects
I’ve concluded that IO for me is a light dis-inhibitor - makes sense, it’s called Instant Openness. 2 doses on the first day of using it in my controlled experiments made me feel more relaxed, like I’d received a full body massage 15 minutes before.
3 doses on day two made me feel relaxed, a bit more “expansive” and more inclined to smile.
4 doses in my last experiment made me feel much more inclined to smile, more social, less introverted. I also noticed my walk changed a bit - more spritely. Laughing and smiling is much easier. It looks to balance out the more serious effects of A314, but I haven’t worn these two mones exclusively in tandem with the other. Will try in the coming weeks.
I’m curious to try upwards of 5 sprays just to see what happens. In fact, I think in my next experiment I’ll try 8 sprays. LOL - should be fun to see what happens if I don’t start floating away.
Outer effects
I would love to see more outer effects from people. Not that I haven’t enjoyed the ones I’ve gotten, but I think my next experiment deserves a larger crowd of people wherein I’m witnessing others more rather than being proactive.
Anyway, I went out to Subway after doing some food shopping. The sandwich maker was very cool and laid back, considerate. He even replaced one of the chicken slices when it didn’t look healthy to eat. I told him I appreciated it.
He was very friendly, asked me what was going on in the real world, talked about sports a bit, just very amicable.
Another interesting note - while wearing IO, I’ve gotten onlookers when talking to someone. Will be talking to someone and another person nearby will listen with interest. Could it be the IO making them wanting to be open as well… ?
I’m going to experiment a gigantic number of sprays today - up to 8. I’m curious to see where it goes!
Lastly, I’ve made these experiments last only 3 or 4 days because the bottles have limited sprays in them. They’re all togo bottles, so I have to limit the general time parameter. I can experiment over longer periods of time once I invest in a proper 30ml spray bottle of everything. I intend to order the larger bottles in the next couple of weeks.
Day 9 and Day 10, Adventure #s… I lost track.
Dosage
Yesterday: 8 sprays of IO - two on both sides of neck, one on chest, one on each wrist, one on Adam’s apple.
Today: IO - 2 sprays total, both sides of neck.
It was my intent to see if the sudden increase in dosage of this mone had any immediate inner or outer effects.
Self-effects
It is now the second day after applying those 8 sprays and I haven’t showered yet. I believe the effects of the mones from this application are still present, but have somehow become more effective on the second day (today). This leads me to believe a couple of things…
- Applying 8 sprays of IO on my unique body chemistry is not ideal in the immediate sense. I didn’t feel any compounded effects of openness or laid back attitudes after this pherobomb-type dosage.
Instead, I felt the usual feelings of openness, calm, and an expansive mind that I did when applying only 2 or 4 sprays.
It is for this reason I believe that my sweet spot with IO may be in the 3 spray range.
- The effectiveness increased over time since the high concentration of mones decreased, perhaps within my “sweet spot” zone. I got a nice hit just 15 minutes ago while walking outside (detailed below) which has led me to conclude this.
I also continue to notice that it is much easier to smile at strangers when IO is applied. I don’t even think about it.
I believe in some sense, this makes ME a “hit” to others, since my behavior has become much more open and inviting. You become a “hit center” in effect, because you are displaying attractive attributes.
Outer effects
Yesterday, nothing noteworthy happened. No real obvious hits. Thus my conclusions above that 8 sprays is beyond my coveted sweet spot.Today, however, after the intensity of the mones had died down a bit but still remained somewhat active, I got a really nice hit from a very attractive young lady who was closing up shop outside of a restaurant.
Now here’s the thing - I’m curious to know how far one’s phero-cloud extends, because this girl was giving me IOIs a good 30 feet away. It could be how the air was carrying, or perhaps I had walked by her a few minutes earlier and did not notice her presence.
In any case, she kept looking at me as she attended to her duties at the restaurant, and as I walked past.
I have no idea why I didn’t just stop and talk with her. Will do that next time. She had a lovely figure.
I also put on a shirt I wore yesterday. I smelled it before putting it on and was intrigued by how good it smelled. I smelled the cooled down scent of IO with another fragrance I’d call my own unique signature scent. I believe my own pheremones are in the mix on the shirt right now and it smells great!Perhaps this had something to do with that nice little hit I got earlier… testing for another time.
I’ve concluded my sole experiments with IO for now. It’s been about 5 days and I have some definite feedback on it’s effects - written below.
I love the effects it has gotten me. When I spray it on, I feel like it is easier to smile at people I don’t know. Reactions from other people don’t affect me as much and starting conversations is easier.
I got a heavy makeout session with a real hottie a few days ago, and I attribute PART of it to IO and part to being sociable. Talking with the girl I connected with felt natural once we got into it. She ended up telling me “I don’t usually open up with anyone like this.” Very sweet.
Again, it was a COMBINATION of IO and sociability. Important to get that, lest you think IO is a magic pill that will suddenly transmogrify you from misanthrope to extremely likeable extrovert. Won’t do any good to spray it on and stay home to play World of Warcraft.
So my conclusions on the mone (until more data comes in in subsequent experiments) is that it is generally a feel good pheromone. It makes smiling easier, increases approachability, and general creates a general feeling of ease. It’s a nice relaxant.
Get out there and experiment with it!
Now onto this week’s experiments - with Ammo.
Dosage
Ammo - 2.5 sprays - the initial spray came out weak, which is why it’s labeled with an extra .5.
Applied to both sides of neck, residual spray rubbed on wrists.
Self-effects
Ammo, as it reacts with my unique body chemistry, has quite a pungent smell. It’s not a BAD smell per se, it’s just different and not usually something I would wear. It smells like a mix between a non-sweet citrus fruit, sandpaper (NOT sandalwood, mind you), and a dry type of cologne.
I also notice that it’s fragrance lasts quite some time after application.
However, this could the curious “Fragrance Virgin” experience - a curious phenomenon that happens when you apply a new fragrance for the first time and the smell seems to last forever. It may not be that it lasts longer than your other colognes, it’s just that your nose hasn’t become dulled or de-virginized to it’s fragrance yet.
This is theory, by the way, but it does make me curious.
It’s analogous to people who work in fragrance shops, like Bath & Body. After a while of smelling the same scents, they become dulled to it, or simply don’t notice them at all. Olfactory static.
I really think these mones have more physical effects than we realize. After applying the fragrance, I noticed my voice got deeper and I walked faster than usual.
I felt pretty confident, but not quite so “Brass Balls Bond” as I’d experienced A314.
It seems that Ammo, so far, has had the effect of being A314’s gentler cousin. You feel confident, but not quite so serious or intent.
I also noted a subtle difference between IO and Ammo. IO I would call “the smiling mone”. Every time I’ve put it on, I’ve found it much easier to smile. With Ammo, I feel open, but in a different way. Ammo seems to have an openness about it, but a bit more reserved so far. Whereas IO is “I’m happy to see you”, Ammo is “I acknowledge you.”
It feels attentive, but I didn’t get the urge to smile at strangers while wearing it.
I’m going to lower the dosage tomorrow to 1 spray. Who knows, maybe 2.5 sprays isn’t idea.
Outer Effects
I haven’t noticed many outer effects. I will need to conduct these experiments in highly populated areas to get a fair assessment of what the mones do. I went to the supermarket and didn’t notice many hits, if any. I did open one cute blonde, but didn’t do anything with it.
Let’s see what happens this week.
Day 12, Adventure 1
Dosage
Ammo - 1 spray on lower Adam’s apple. Wiped residual drying application on both wrists.
Self-effects
Went out with a friend and another guy for my friend’s bday. Noted that Ammo makes me open, accepting, easy. It’s a very subtle difference from IO, which tends to make smiling a bit easier. Ammo has more a “I notice you” effect on me. It lowers anxiety or approach anxiety and anxiety in general.
I feel more “in my skin” with Ammo, a bit more charming and fun.
Outer effects
Not many notable ones, but I did get some smiles from waitresses at the restaurant we went to. I also opened a 3 set of women in front of my friends. Didn’t go much anywhere, didn’t mean it to.
I didn’t get any blatant IOIs or DIHL looks.
My friend was open, relaxed and fun - not unusual for him. The other guy is kind of a conundrum. I could tell he didn’t like me the first time we met a few weeks back (pre-mones), and tonight I sniffed the same subtle disdain.
In fact, we got into a light verbal disagreement over something, but I handled it pretty well and it was dissolved. I wonder if the Ammo triggered a more aggressive response in him while keeping me calm under fire. If I know I’m going to encounter him again, I’ll be sure to apply some A314 beforehand.
Other than the above, not much notable happened.
Anyway, more research coming. I have a feeling Ammo is best used in conjunction with other products, however. Will test it out after this week’s run and subsequent solo product runs.
Day 13, Adventure 1
Dosage
Ammo - 2 sprays, one on each wrist, rubbed onto neck.
Self-effects
Ammo has a much more subtle effect than the other mones I’ve tried (IO and A314). It seems to be a general relaxant with some social vibe to it. I’ve written this before, but it doesn’t make me feel inclined to smile as much as IO, yet it makes things feel socially comfortable (much like IO).
Whereas A314 is “Warp Factor 9” in terms of inner solidity, Ammo seems to be Warp 3 or 4. You feel passively confident rather than pro-actively taking what you want without apology.
By the way, this is not a bad thing. It’s not “weaker” - it just has a stabilizing balanced effect with aspects of many others rolled into one.
Yet I have an intuition Ammo may not be best when used alone. I feel it may be a “puzzle piece” mone, wherein it interlocks with other pheromones to make it even more effective. I haven’t gotten to testing this hypothesis, but I have a feeling it may be somewhat veritable.
Testing will reveal this to be true or not.
Breaking it down, Ammo appears to affect:
- Confidence level - have experienced a relaxed self-acceptance.
- Social vibe - easier to talk with people.
- Energy level - I’ve noticed I walk faster when wearing it.
- Eye contact - easier to look at women who are looking at you.
- Other factors - very subtle descriptions that evade me at this hour.
I also noticed that the scent of Ammo changes dramatically when worn 8+ hours. Whereas it has a more pungent fragrance when first applied, it has a much sweeter, seductive one close to a dozen hours later.
Outer effects
I went out with 2 groups of friends tonight - both groups had a man and woman. Second group, we had a rollicking good time. The conversations were easy, humorous, fun and lively.
I haven’t received any blatant hits from wearing Ammo (not yet).
The effects seem to be more subtle. I postulate that Ammo acts as a magnifier of your existing charm and wit. Tonight’s company thoroughly enjoyed my humor, energy was high and even I was a bit surprised at the “funny” coming out of me.
Can it be that Ammo is an enhancer of attractive general socio-masculine qualities?
From what I’ve observed in my behavior and that of others when wearing it, it looks to be this way.
I may test Ammo one more day and move on, or I may switch to Instant Shine for a few day’s testing.
I’m eager to try Ammo with other social mones and putatives!
P130
Started testing P130 yesterday. I wrote about my exploits in this thread:
P130: The Cure For Fear - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum
I will continue to write about it here.
Today was an awesome day. I’ll say that much as a beginning.
Dosage:
P130 - 4 sprays, one to each wrist, 2 to neck, rubbed some on temples.
Self-effects:
Felt calm, in control, open, easy going, social. I believe this mone is a social one. It eliminates negative self-talk, and even if some self-talk remains, it is much easier to objectify it rather than identify with it, thus making it much easier to release. You are out of the mud with P130, so to speak.
I find myself much more chatty and unconcerned with the outcome of events I habitually find high priority.
This isn’t to say I’m apathetic or have lost interest in said events. To the contrary - P130 has given me an advantage of making things much clearer and focused. Since I don’t have the blanket of negative self-talk to bog me down while wearing it, more of the positive attributes of my persona become apparent.
I also noted I was walking a bit more briskly than usual as I did with Ammo.
I will attempt to capture the subtleties of what P130 does, if I haven’t already in the post I indicated above. It creates a vibe of stability, openness and imperturbability.
At points, I did feel minor twinges of doubt or undesirable emotions, but these seemed to be on the periphery. It was as if they were waving at me from some unreachable place. They simply couldn’t touch me.
Not such a bad place to be!
Outer Effects:
Since the mone has had such a subtle, yet profound effect on me, it has had a similar effect on the outside world. Communicating with people is EASY, never strained. I don’t think about what to say next, and even if there is silence, it’s OK. I can just rest.
I must have opened 6 sets (that means talked to 6 strangers) in a span of an hour and 15 minutes without embarassment or that nagging sense that I may be bothering them by talking.
In fact, one of these sets was a couple in Starbucks sitting next to me. When they walked in, I noticed the lady was wearing something quite alluring, so I asked her what it was. She said she didn’t know… was going to tease and ask her if they were pheromones but it looked like they wanted their private time.
Another lady, sitting next to me at the next table, I found myself spontaneously opening with a request for her to smell this delicious tea I bought at a tea shop. She said she liked the smell.
This launched us into a very open, easy and fun conversation about what she did, etc. She had this beautiful wavy curly red hair. Very attractive. Was giggling and laughing, having fun.
I got one very nice hit from a server in a food court type restaurant. After I’d ordered my food, she gave me a big smile and asked if I wanted more condiments. Big shiny smile from her.
Also talked with a gent who was in line in front of me. He ordered a huge box of chicken. I joked “Hungry?” He laughed, explained it wasn’t all for him, then laughed some more. We joked for a few more moments about the food at the place.
This mone makes initiating conversation and conversing itself very pleasant and easy.
Even if you run out of things to say, you aren’t bombarded by the agitating voice that is afraid of awkward silences. “What should I say next?” Simply non-existent.
Saw a hottie and her BF (?) at the supermarket. Teased them about having “sin juice” (which was just orange juice and other fruity beverages) they were going to mix with “drunky water.”
This is a mone I will use consistently once I get more bottles. I regret I only have one small 5ml bottle, but am definitely grateful I have it!
It’s going to be very hard moving on to other mones once my testing period for it is done. After all, I have over 20 different products to try one at a time. So much research to do!
And don’t even get me started on the number of combinations of mones that require experimentation!
What an exciting journey this is.
I wrote the following (modified) entry here:
I had an impulse to spray P90 on myself yesterday, and it the decision was wise. I did not go out, needed to work at home. Summary effects: concentration abilities went through the roof, deep sense of calm and peace.
I will immediately get back to testing P130 over the next several days. For now, here is a small report on P90.
Sprayed two 5mcgs on my neck for a total of 10mcgs.
Effects:
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Deep, deep sense of peace and relaxation. Calm, equanimity. Mind is cooperative, focused, as if every thought I put in there is important and requires great concentration. Distractions have become irrelevant.
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The feeling you get during and after a deep meditation. Feeling life force in the back of my neck - so soothing, gentle, reassuring.
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A sense that everything is fine. Other mones have given this kind of feeling, but P90 goes deeper, it seems.
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Feels like a Buddhist monk just gave me a lesson in mindfulness, and that mindfulness has expanded throughout my body.
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As I write this, it feels like peace is flowing out of me. I am both subjected to the feelings and can objectify them.
Perhaps this sounds a bit woo woo, but it is how it is.
Calm, placid, knowing. Not much of a need to change anything.
Contentment.
I couldn’t resist. Had a high profile meeting with a group of people today and wanted to boost status and openness.
And the results were AWESOME!
I deviated from my recent structured solo application of the mones and used several. HOWEVER… I only used ones I’ve tested thus far. In other words, I haven’t used ones I haven’t tested solo.
Here is what I applied:
Dosage:
IO - 2 sprays, 5 mcgs, sprayed on both sides of neck.
A314 - 2 drops, 5mcgs, one drop for each wrist. Residual oils rubbed along temples down face.
P130 - 2 sprays, 12.5mcgs, applied to both sides of neck.
Self-effects:
What a difference this combo has made. This is a killer social comfort and chat combo, I know it.
COMPLETE comfort with what I say, do, feel. No trace of social awkwardness whatsoever. Feeling natural in all things social - a very balanced alpha feeling.
And that just felt like a small part of it. I just smiled at a complete stranger sitting directly in front of me. No hesitation. Like things should be.
I feel such openness with this combination, it’s ridiculous, more so than with IO alone. It looks like my adventurousness has paid off a bit.
Outer effects:
Where to start…
I arrived at my meeting. Keep in mind that this is a pretty alpha group led by someone who they all consider to be an authority, someone I believe others may feel a bit intimidated around for various reasons due to his extreme success in his chosen field.
My friend introduced me to him, and to my retrospective amazement, I had not a twinge of fear, nor even self-consciousness. Talking with him was completely easy, natural, flowing, enjoyable and dare I say, connected.
During his talk, he kept making eye contact with me. This is partly due to what I believe were my own reactions to him. I found myself sincerely interested in what he said, supportive and focused. He may have sensed that and genuinely appreciated it.
In a strange sense, it felt like we were on the same level in an intangible way. I could relate to what he was saying completely and learned many great things from him. He seemed very positive and open towards me and said he was looking forward to further association after giving him my email address.
It was an awesome experience, but not because it was “WOW!”, but more because it felt how things should be all the time. Totally flowing, natural, effortless, complete lack of negative self-talking. No awkward inner tensions or nagging.
I still feel this tremendous, uplifting openness even 6 hours after applying this combo.
Experiment around with it. See how it affects negative self-talk for you.
Also got a major hit in the form of a very open and spontaneous conversation at Starbucks. In fact, I believe she opened me when I sat down next to her. I won’t detail the conversation here as it’s getting late and it would be too long to transcribe from memory anyway, but I’ll say that I got her information and she added me on a social media website.
Also had a brief, flirtatious encounter with the barista before I met this previous lady.
Great reports and advice in this thread. I thanked all your posts so far because i enjoyed reading them.
Thanks a bunch! Much more to come - today and following days. I’m enjoying wearing the mones as much as I’m reading posts here on the forum.
Great reporting as always
More to come on P130, as promised. Will apply 2 or 3 sprays tomorrow and run around naked.
MAYBE minus the naked part… 
Dosage:
P130 - 12.5mcgs - 4 sprays, 50mcgs total. One to each wrist, one to each side of neck.
Self-effects:
I’ve written on this before, but the subtleties of each mone are a bit hard to put into words. I remember walking and thinking about how P130 differs from the other mones I’ve tried.
I thought that P130 isn’t so much a dis-inhibitor as it is a neutralizer of negative self-talk. Very subtle difference, if related. While the negative self-talk vanishes, it does not in itself make you more chatty or talkative. It simply quiets the mind to a degree.
I believe there may be other mones for inducing loquaciousness or gregariousness (ooh, lookitme, my $10 words…). I’ll research and see what people are saying about conversational mones.
Self-effect summary so far:
P130:
- Eliminates negative self-talk. Quiets your mind a bit.
- Makes looking at strangers easier, even natural.
- Eradicates much self-consciousness.
- Is a very powerful pacifist mone. It quiets the anxieties and troubles in your mind. I would hesitantly compare it to the result of imbibing alcohol minus the deleterious effects.
If your goal is to eliminate or lessen social anxiety, then this mone may be for you.
It can also act as a powerful combination mone. My impromptu experiment with P130, IO and A314 a few days ago (detailed in this journal) confirms this. It seemed to act as a type of ambassador for all of the aforementioned.
Outer effects:
I had a hit from two gentlemen in line at the grocery store today. They’d asked me where the cigarettes were. I didn’t know so I asked the cashier. She didn’t seem too happy to talk with them.
After she got done talking with them and I was the next to be served, she got a lot happier. I count this as a definite hit.
However…
I’m curious whether it was really the mones or if it was the mones having an effect on me having an effect on her. In other words, my behavior, being altered by the mones, affected how she behaved.
It could be either or both, but I’m thinking something in P130 did lead these people to be more open with me (the gents asking where the cigarettes included). Afterall, if I’m being affected by P130 the way I am, it’s not a far stretch to say others will be as well.
Ain’t that the point of them?
The only bad part of this experiment is I’m running out of P130. I estimate I only have 25 sprays left, if that.
This is definitely something that needs mass production for us forumites. Please, Androtics, make 600ml bottles of this stuff! I’ll snatch it right up!
Gathering much insight from your research. Thanks for being dedicated to truly testing each.
Woo hoo! A response!
You’re welcome. I’m enjoying this a whole bunch. Incredible journey.
Great report. It’s those little subleties that make all the difference though. This sounds a whole lot like P112. I wonder if there are similarities in the makeup of the molecule.
Mini-report (more to report tonight)
Dosage:
P130 - 2 sprays, 12.5 mcgs each = 25 mcgs. One spray on each side of neck, rubbed onto wrists from there.
Self-effects:
Typical results I’ve gotten before - negative self-talk vanishes. Easy to talk with and look at people. Social-based mone.
Outer effects:
Found myself spontaneously (without even thinking about it) approaching two Asian babes on the street. One of them had a camera, and the other was modeling for it. She had this cute Japanese-inspired get up.
What struck me as most interesting was how spontaneous the whole event was. I just freely walked up to them and asked them if they spoke Japanese. They spoke Chinese.
Now, it’s not completely out of character for me to do this when not wearing mones… HOWEVER… without the mones, I have that little voice of doubt or wariness. P130 wipes it out.
Anyway, I shared my limited knowledge on Mandarin, then figured out they were model and photographer. I immediately got down next to the model (she was kneeling next to pumpkins) and started doing some modeling shots with her. Was fun!
Already mentioned - but what struck me afterwards was how it was this spontaneous, natural action I took without thinking.
It’s made me postulate - do mones have a lasting conditioning effect on our behavior? I’ve noticed some cumulative effect of P130 over the past few days. More spontaneity now? Deserves further study.
That’s my short report for now. Will have more tonight after I go out dancing!