I began using Androtics products back in 2009. Although I did some testing and saw results that I enjoyed, much of what ensued was a series of on and off pherobaptisms and a failure on my part to keep a good record of my observations. Because my use was intermittent, it took me a long time to burn through my initial orders (I still have some old A314 left). By the time the well was finally dry, circumstances in my personal (and financial) life had pushed me away from mones, even though I’d appreciated their use.
I recently got a hankering again, and decided that I would come back and do things better this time. I started out by ordering to-go sizes of most of the Instant line and have been working on finding my sweet spots (I wanted to take more time to establish a no-phero baseline but of course Androtics upgraded me to overnight shipping so I got my order right away. Thanks!). I haven’t been able to get out much so I have been testing during my commute and in the workplace.
Been working mainly with Ammo so far and it seems that 2 to 3 sprays is best, depending on the situation. On Thursday, however, I decided to add a drop of A314 to my 2 sprays in preparation for a work meeting. The meeting went well, but what was more interesting was my train ride home.
The car was crowded so I ended up standing and leaning against a pole, which required me to sling my backpack around to my front. As I walked in I made eye contact with a pretty 20-something who gave me a big smile that I returned. With the train moving on I also caught another girl shooting me frequent glances and I smiled at her too. At this point I noticed that girl #1 was staring intently in my direction, and since I was standing and she was sitting it seemed to be towards my crotch, but when she noticed that I had caught on she glanced away. I figured if that was what she wanted I would give her a better view, so I hiked my backpack up out of the way, and almost immediately her focus returned to the previous point. My stop came up and when I moved suddenly she looked up at me, startled and with a DIHL, so I smiled, winked, and walked off the train. As I stood outside of the station waiting for a friend to meet me, girl #2 from the train walked by, stopped, quickly blurted out something unintelligible to me, and then hurried off before I could really react. No idea what she said but it was quite odd how flustered she seemed to be.
Now that I wrote like 500 words I’ll officially end my first report
Since my last post I have been working with IS and IO. IS has the most intense self-effects of any phero I’ve tested, and is a nice way to get my day started. I don’t notice too many effects on others when it’s used alone (1-4 sprays), but I enjoy what it adds to a mix. Again, I have been testing mostly at work and during my commute.
IO is in a similar boat for me, though some effects on others are noticeable. I already have a friendly rapport with my coworkers but did find that they were stopping by my desk to chitchat about nothing more often than usual at 3 sprays (typically they don’t interrupt me to make smalltalk unless I’m clearly not working).
I was curious to see how far I could take this and had a bus trip scheduled for Friday, so I pherobombed my fellow riders with 6x IO. My bus was late and I ended up waiting in line. Though strangers were not coming up to me to initiate (which I never expect) I found that once I gave someone the slightest in they would strike up conversation. Usually all it took was eye contact and whoever I was connecting with would have a question. This was unusual because, as a frequent bus rider, I typically find waiting in line to be an anisocial event, probably because everyone is irritated that the bus is always late. Having absorbed enough random details by the time I finally got on the bus, I decided to put on headphones and start a movie so as to cut myself off from the other passengers.
This strategy worked, at least until we reached our destination. As I was leaving the bus and heading to the subway I ran into (or perhaps was followed by) one of the riders who had been standing close to me in line earlier. We discovered that we were heading in the same direction so we boarded a train together and continued chatting. At this point I learned pretty much the entire story of his education, moving history, and career. Needless to say it was a lot of information to heap upon a total stranger and not something I would expect without some prompting. Guess that’s just the IO for ya :o.
This week I experimented with a mix of Ammo, IO, and IS all together, but that’s an update for another time.
IShine, for me, adds a bit of confidence which makes me feel just wonderful. What really happens is people just want to be around you. That’s the most cumulative effect I see. Women go mad gahgah over it too
Oh yeah, totally agree about the self-confidence effect–it’s my first or second favorite consumer line product simply for that reason alone. Just hasn’t given me too much to report on when used by itself in the environments in which I have been testing. Definitely ordering up a full size of it soon .
I was on my way to a bar to see a friend perform standup comedy. Although he may be a natural on stage he’s actually somewhat socially awkward and reserved in most situations. The only other person coming with us was a friend of a friend who I had met a few times before but never seemed much of one for conversation. Considering my company it seemed like a good night to go heavy on the socials.
Because my friend is performing I end up sitting at a table just with the acquaintence. Unlike our previous encounters I find the conversation to flow freely, and he asks me many questions about my job and social life. Better yet, at the end of the show he offers to pay my bar tab (!). I was in a very upbeat and social mood that night which certainly helped things along but I also give some credit to the IO and IS.
After the performance I left to meet up with a friend and two girls in the city. As we ride the subway I have the distinct feeling of being the center of attention as all 3 of them seem unusually focused on what I have to say. By the time we reach our destination and I have a seat, one of the girls comes over and sits down right on my lap. Nice effect, but it’d be more useful if I didn’t have a girlfriend.
Speaking of the current GF, I tested TUTH around her for the first time this weekend which resulted in the clearest demonstration of the effectiveness of mones I’ve experienced to date
After getting some blatant results using TUTH around my GF I was tempted to do a bit more testing with it in public. Didn’t really want to go out with only that, however, so I decided to buffer it with some IH. Total mix was 2x TUTH to the chest, 3x IH to the neck and wrists.
Headed to a bar to meet up with some friends. The group includes a girl with whom I have a sexual history, but we have just been friends for a decent while. The bar is crowded, so when I enter I stand around for a few minutes surveying the place so that I can spot my friends. While this is going on, said girl jumps me from behind with a big hug that she holds for a few beats. This is out of character (wasn’t of course when we were sexually involved, but is recently) so we’re already off to a notable start.
We spend most of the rest of the night in the bar talking, and I’m getting tons of kino from her. I reciprocate to a mild extent but I’m mainly playing hard to get considering our situations. On multiple occasions she came in really close to tell me things which were not secretive in nature, in the process pressing her breasts right up against me. Interestingly, a lot of the conversation involved her complaining about her BF which is not something I usually hear (IH anyone?).
When I finally do head out to get some sleep she walks me to the door and gives me another hug, this time reaching down and squeezing my ass with both her hands . She laughs, and I slide my hands down her sides before disengaging. Seems like TUTH is trying to get me in trouble…
After a few weeks of sweet spotting and testing mixes I’m feeling fairly comfortable with the consumer line. I’ve been using 1 drop of A314 plus 1-2 sprays of Ammo as my base mix, with socials added as needed. This Saturday I was wearing said base with 3x IH and met a girl for the first time through a mutual friend. The fact that we were both apartment hunting came up and she said I should keep her in mind if I was looking for a roommate. Later, in private, she came back to the topic and mentioned that one reason she’d make a nice roommate is that she’s good in bed and likes it on top . Maybe this girl was just particularly forward but I don’t think I’ve ever gotten one talking about sex so fast, haha.
Beyond that anecdote, I’m bringing this thread back up because I’m looking to add to my collection by going beyond the consumer line and I would like suggestions for what you all think are good choices for a first-timer delving into the world of putatives and experimones. Right now I’m considering TAC, P83, and P74 but I’m open to suggestion. I’m interested in the Golden 13 and am looking for other mones that will pair well with Ammo/TUTH as a base.
Great to see another mone user maturing to the point of using a putative.
Those three are very good and will be excellent for your combinations, IMO. For somewhat of a challenge I’d suggest P102. P130 was VERY Blatant for me, like an amped up molecule.
If you wanted something easier to see results, TAK, would be something you should try.
Thanks for the advice . No P130 in stock right now but I’ll keep it in mind for the future. How would you describe TAK (in a ballpark sense anyway, I don’t want to know too much about it or else it would defeat the purpose of testing)?
Edit: I’m also wondering if other users have an opinion on whether or not to start out with a to-go or a full size bottle when it comes to putatives. Since I don’t know how the molecules will work for me yet it makes sense to save some money and go with the to-go, but you also end up getting so much more mone for the buck by getting 30 mL at 10 mcg as opposed to the standard 5 mL at 12.5 mcg. Decisions decisions…
Personally, I prefer to get a 30 ml of a P because I have a hard time discerning the reactions to it. That’s just me. I’ll then try to focus on one or two on hand.
TAK is a bit on the laid back side of the mone reaction spectrum. It has its place in my mone applications.
Hello. Just to add in my own two cents worth, here, I would DEFINITELY recommend getting a big bottle of the 20mcg P83, and a P79 if you’re looking to get into the putatives. The P79 seems to only come in a to-go form, but it’s well worth the money spent. You can check out the results I’ve been having with both in my journal (see my sig).
The P79 seems to really add to any physical encounter, helping women to really “get into” whatever is going on. P83 on the other hand, appears to take away any body and/or space related inhibitions, but can make you “invisible” if used in too high a dose. Something else you should look into as well, would be MX450. That one seems to really bring out an “ideal female” reaction in women for whatever reason. Ever since I began slipping a little of that into my mixes here and there, women have spontaneously started dressing better, wearing make-up, helping out more, etc., etc., as if instinctually trying to prove themselves to be more desirable mates.
Thanks to both of you. I will go with some big bottles as I don’t want to run out of my new mones just when I’m starting to get a handle on how to use them. Looking forward to getting out there and posting some new test results.
P79 is definitely interesting but I think I’m gonna save it for the next go round once I understand putatives a little bit more, considering the emotional enhancement effect (though I did notice you mentioned in your journal that you didn’t experience much deepening of negative states).
With the putatives and experimental lines it’s pretty much always a good idea to go bigger if it’s something you want to test. If you weren’t aware of it already, AD does a form of rolling blackout on it’s non-core lines in order to keep costs down.
. She laughs, and I slide my hands down her sides before disengaging. Seems like TUTH is trying to get me in trouble…
. Maybe this girl was just particularly forward but I don’t think I’ve ever gotten one talking about sex so fast, haha.