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my co-worker has Fibromyalgiaand I noticed that after not wearing IS to work for awhile and then recently starting again that his symptoms seem to flare up. Now thinking about it when I first started working with this guy I wore different stuff always with IS and he was always sick half way through the night. Unknowingly I just left out IS and he still has issues, but he doesn’t get all hunched over heart-attack style when I wear IS. I am not gonna test if IS is making him sick or not. I just noticed that this last weekend when i was trying to try different stuff on a female co-worker he got really sick and I was like oh shit could he be having this reaction to the IS because the w/out IS mixes over the previous two weeks didn’t seem to make this guy feel abnormaly worse. Read about fibromylasia and give me feedback on what you think. If it could be IS or was it just a coincidence!?!?!? I’m guessing that after my reading this above link it could worsen his symptoms, but I’m not a doctor.
firbromyalgia ? I thought usually older females get that, but who knows 
I think it is more psychosomatic than anything else. I think IS makes him feel a bit relaxed during daytime, so at night, it affects him more. Just my guess
I don’t think IS has any irritants in it that would be different from other sprays since it shares a common fragrance/diffusion package. Also the pheromones sure are different from product to product, but I don’t know that one would make it flare up more than another, or at all.
I agree with CoolKatDC on the possibility, but if you feel its affecting him negatively then the responsibility would be to not wear it around him just in case.
Spray it in his face when he’s not looking.
Spray it on your palm and give him a high-five. Or slap it on his back. See if he buckles over.
No seriously man, it’s got nothing to do with it.
9 to 1 female to male ratio…
I guess what I’m saying is I don’t think the mones themselves are making him sick. This guy gets sick from heavy lifting. After talking to him about his condition I was just thinking that making him feel good, energetic, happy actually is bad in his case. The guy can’t even exercise without taking a 3-day hiatus. Most people he told me about don’t even work, because the overall pain can be debilitating. It’s symptoms are likened to that of a constant heart attack and constant body pain. This is an internal muscle type condition where your muscles spasm so any type of STIMULANTS can cause your symptoms to worsen EVEN FEELING GOOD. I was looking for some decent feedback besides spray it in his face or the like. I already work close enough with the guy so it’s like I already sprayed it in his face.
I strongly advise people to be aware of the effects of mones on others that they are around constantly just like androtics does. I am not saying IS caused this, and am not gonna stop using the products. I mean no ILL WILL to anybody even my co-worker. It’s just that everyone should be aware of other peoples negative side effects and in this case something about IS effects this guys condition. IMO!!!
So you have experience with IS and someone with Fibromyalgia or at least it by itself. Am curious to here more if you do. FYI I don’t think it’s killing him just more like having severe allergies to dust and pollen and sleeping on a pillow stuffed with it!!! Good Idea probably not
Is there maybe a chance she is feeling the IS “crash” to some extent?
IS can become tiring enough to a fit person after a while, so it might drain the energy of an unwell person exposed to it faster?
I am familiar with fibromyalgia. Some of my clients have it and use pheromones without flair ups. Traditional medicine has not clearly been able to define the causes of fibromyalgia. They define it as a abnormal tightening of the muscles resulting in inflammation. It can be due to many different factors ranging from nutrition to toxicity.
I dont offer medical advice in my coaching but I grew up around the alternative medicine field and use both methods in my life and family. I found that using certain herbs and changing the diet to support the adrenal glands helps to balance cortisol levels and reduce inflammatory response and at least for my friends there flair ups with fibromyalgia have stopped.
Ishine should not cause cortisol levels to change adversely. In fact it should relieve the flight or fight response. Are you sure its the Ishine ? I would be more suspect of A-none causing this response.
Either way its not likely that someone exposed to it on another person would have a biological response to it.
Tisha
Diseases and syndromes such as Tourettes, Fybromyalgia, and ADHD are all affected by dopamine levels. Tourettes and Tic syndrome are associated with high dopamine levels while Fibromyalgia and ADHD are associated with low dopamine levels.
Dopamine is a hormone. Pheromones have been found to affect hormone levels. The question is whether IS in particular affects dopamine. There is a research company that is currently doing research on using pheromones to treat diseases and syndromes. Unfortunately I can’t remember the name of it now.
Having said that, I limit the amount of IS that I use around my son, because I believe it affects either serotonin or dopamine. He has tic syndrome. I am in the process of purchasing TAK and TAC to see if any of those have positive affects on him.
They say it can be a combo of things(different causes), I guess I don’t know him well.It seemed to be a coincidence. I would have hated to be a contributing factor to his pain. I don’t follow him home so I don’t know what goes on there either. I had on IG this time and A314 the others with IS. I was just wondering trying to find some answers, different experiences. thanks for the input
Pherin News
Pherin Pharmacuticals and they are exploring intranasaly not pheromonally
Dopamine acts as a neurotransmitter in the brain but its not likely to cause fibromyalgia if its triggered by Ishine because it cant cross the blood brain barrier. If you absorbed it, injected it, ingested it that would be different.
Tisha
Thanks for the update on Pherin. I couldn’t remember their name. Actually dopamine that is injected cannot pass the blood brain barrier. I checked into that. And the studies I read did not state that Dopamine was a cause to fibromyalgia but that one of the common symptoms is low dopamine. I do believe that Instant shine does affect one of the endorphins based on umm… previous drug umm… research.
I’m sure it does effect one of the endorphin based transmitters. It would be easy to figure out if we new what TAA was LOL. From my other testing I feel like it may be DHEA but thats just a personal opinion and not based in fact.
Tisha