thinkin i might be glad i stumbled on here

!!!!! real important for those that are skeptical !!!!!*!

I recently discovered this site and just wanted you all to know I was just as skeptical as you are if not more so, I took a chance and used my gift certificate along with some money on a gift card to purchase four to-go bottles. Today my package came and i was pleasantly surprised to find a free bottle of the other product I had mentioned considering in my post. (Thanks again for that :wink: lol) but more importantly I want anyone who’s on the fence to know this…there was a problem with my shipping info (my fault) which would have delayed my delivery and caused me to miss out on some unique opportunities but the good folks here shipped out my package overnight!!! Now that is customer service :slight_smile: so now ill get to put these bad boys to use tomorrow, for details you can check out my journal. Good luck to you all in whatever endeavors you pursue, I hope we all find exactly what we’re looking for

below is my original intro

Well let’s start out with the who, what and why; im about to turn 26 in a few months and I haven’t been in a serious relationship since I was 18. I have a pretty outgoing and confident personality for the most part, but it seems i lack the killer insting when it comes to the ladies. Im generally cast in the “just friends” category all the time. I still manage to get laid on a pretty regular basis tho but that’s only because I have one very good friend with benefits that I absolutely love to death, sadly she’s willing to bang me but anything more is completely out of the question according to her, so I don’t push or complain when I have such a good thing going lol. Id be aboslutely blown away if pheromones could change her attitude on that but really id just be happy with more sex and more chances to connect with people I otherwise probly wouldn’t have the chance to connect with.

I actually just stumbled onto this site a few hours ago because I was considering ordering athena pheromones out of the back of a maxim magazine. Like with most products the first things I did was take to google searching for “athena scam” and I found you guys and have been reading ever since. Im still somewhat skeptical, but im also very excited about the possibilities and eager to try them out on my f.w.b. among other people lol im curious what thoughts any of you might have on athena? I’ve purchased pheromones before without much success, I bout a product called “yes” that smelled horrible and seemed to do more harm than good, at the same time I also bought a product called lure for him which has a vanilla smell that’s pretty pleasant so I tend to wear it when I go out and wind up smelling like fresh baked cookies lol. I never really noticed any differences in women around me when I wore it but I never used more than 2 sprays because its smell is pretty strong. Have any of you used either of those products with any success? To be honest the only pheromone success i think I’ve ever had is after a romp with my favorite friend I tend to have better luck with the ladies, I’ve always just figured it was the extra confidence boost, but after all I’ve read over the past few hours now I think there may have been other elements at work there lol

Well I hope that was enough info to qualify for a gift certificate, im hoping to order my first batch in about a week :slight_smile: thanks in advance to anybody that takes the time to read this and any thoughts or suggestions they might have I appreciate it alot, also thank you all for the huge amounts of valuable information throughout this site

P.s. I noticed on the back of my bottle of lure that the ingredients are alcohol denat, water, fragrance, ethoxydiglucol glycerin and androstadienone…that lasts ones the magic ingredient right?

Hi R22 - Welcome to Pherotalk.

Thanks for a good introduction - I’m pretty certain Mickaelia will be along soon to issue your GC. She does get busy though, so do give her a few days.

I see you have discovered that many phero sellers oversell or badly describe their products. Well, Androtics don’t do that. The instant line is well tested and gives good predictable results for the majority of people.

As to your choice - My sugestions would be Ammo and one or other of the socials for your general social life:

Ammo - is a well rounded social/sexy/masculine formula that will help draw people to you in a number of ways whilst keeping the sexual edge but not come off as overly horny. Ammo contiains none, so you will need to test to find the most effective dose. See the sticky and sweet spot threads in Men’s for full details. It can also help boost your confidence in social situations.

The socials - but don’t ignore them as social attraction plays a major role in triggering a woman’s sexual attraction. Can be used on their own or to steer Ammo or other none-based pheros in different directions.

Instant Shine - Projects a happy and good to be around vibe that is a classic mix when used with Ammo.
IO - Promotes flowing conversation.
IH - Promotes closeness and bonding
IG - Gives a suave/smooth/status impression.

As you ahve a FWB, you might find TUTH very useful - It is great for enhancing passion in an established physical relationship. Not so good on its own socially as you can come across as overly horny/agressive but it is useful in high status clubbing/pulling mixes with women around your age and above. None tolerance increases with age, so it is generally advisable to avoid high-none mixes around younger girls. Although there can be exceptions.

If you are looking for an LTR, Nothing screams “catch” quite like A314 - It is expensive but great for making you stand out from the crowd as a strong, trustworthy and reliable man. Although not a sexual phero on its own, it can be steered by using the instant line/TUTH. A314 is also very, very useful in work situations as it conveys all sorts of status/professional qualities. It can be hard to work with though and it may be better to stick to the lighter IG initially. If you do take this route, I rate the oil base highly - Partly because it is far more cost effective in the long run and because its diffusion is smoother and much longer lasting.

I see you have found Realm/A1 already. Androtics don’t sell this phero any more for reasons well discussed in the main forum but it can also be very useful in LTR situations. On its own, it can be a bit too comforting (ie Friendzone) and is a difficult phero to work with but combined with the likes of Ammo and A314, it has a lot of value. Go and look at K-Trains “A1 Guide” thread and the “A1 Mix Repository” for a lot more info on how to use it effectively.

Good luck! :slight_smile:

Hi r22 and a welcome to you to the forum! Wow, nice, intro right off the bat!

Your right, the ‘secret’ ingredient is androstadienone in lure… basically, AKA A1.

You’ve gotten some excellent advice from mobocaster and I came around to let you know that I’d love to see you around and get your take on the mones you do use from AD. This is, after all, a research driven forum so, that is it’s primary goal. Get user’s to test out and report on the mones the get.

Thanks for joining and let us know when you start up that journal of yours! :slight_smile:

Welcome r22,

I stumbled on here also. You’ve gotton great advice from Mobocaster and from A1. This is a great site for pheromone information.

Thank you all again for your advice, its greatly appreciated. I just got my gift certificate, unfortunately I have to stop by and put some money on my card before I can place my order cause sadly 25 dollars just isn’t enough lol I plan on trying out the spray bottles following mobocasters advice and getting a bottle each of ammo, turn up the heat, and instant shine. Im hoping that should get me suffiently interested in trying alpha and dabbling in some mixtures to really see what possibilities there are. Hopefully ill end up sharing some very pleasant and interesting stories with you folks, once again thank you all :slight_smile:

Welcome to pherotalk r22!

You received excellent advise and your gc so am sure you aren’t really bothered with me.

I am just swinging around to give you an official welcome.

I hope you place an order soon.

Your gc was issued! :wink:

You’re right on the money, definitely not bothered at all :slight_smile: i plan on placing an order real soon so I can start playing around with some mones, im hoping to have it ordered by the end of the night. Thanks for stopping by with the welcome, I appreciate the love

Just got done placing my order :slight_smile: wound up spending about 40 bucks on top of my gift certificate tho lol, decided on getting the instant honesty and instant jerk on top of turn up the heat, ammo, and instant shine. I seriously considered changing out one of the to go bottles (most likely instant shine but I thought about ammo too) for one of the bigger bottles but instead I decided to try to other products :slight_smile: can’t wait for them to get here, now its gonna be like xmas eve lol thanks again everyone for all the advice and just general love

Just looked over my order, wish I would’ve noticed the free shipping on orders over 60 bucks lol would have definitely took advantage of that and paid the few extra dollars to get something else. Sadly though im much more upset I didn’t place my order sooner, I have two amazingly beautiful women coming over sunday and let’s just say they have a history of doing freaky things together with a very lucky individual, I would have loved to have had the mones on hand to help out my chances of being the second such incredibly lucky s.o.b. lol

Got my package, just wanted to thank whoever was responsible for my free instant gentleman (should help in the job search lol) and overnight upgrade, I really appreciate that and I hope you know that, really can’t wait to try out my tuth tomorrow :slight_smile: