Thunderlips' Phero Log

Starting a log to track my pheromone effects and experiences. For reference I am a 54 year old white caucasian male, married, reasonably good shape, about 6 feet tall. I just received a fresh order from Androtics, so here we go.

Yesterday (3/14/2017) I applied 1 spray of P131 to the left and right side of my neck, a total of 2 sprays, at 5:45 a.m. before heading off to the gym. This is in a togo size bottle, 5mcg per spray, unscented.

Self effects - I noticed that before I even left the house, it seemed like my mind quieted down and I was more focused on here and now vs. thinking about upcoming workout, action items from work, etc. I noticed this here and now focus remained throughout my entire workout.

Effects on others - I noticed people looking at me, both men and women, when I was working out, or resting between sets. Not sure if this is because I really never noticed before and the “here and now” effects were causing me to notice, or if this was something new. I will pay more attention to this in the upcoming weeks and see if there is a difference.

Showered after workout and re-applied one spray of P131 to each side of my neck when I got to work at around 8:15 a.m.

Self effects - Definitely continued the more here and now focus I observed earlier. A weird side effect that I noticed was that throughout the first 5 or 6 hours of the day I would get very vivid images of women’s boobs popping into my head - not in a distracting way, my focus would immediately turn back to work, but it kept happening.

Effects on others - I didn’t really notice anything different in how my co-workers acted

Yesterday (3/15/2017) I applied 2 sprays of Molecule C TAC to the front of my shirt at 5:40 a.m. This is a 30ml bottle, 2.5 mcg per spray, unfragranced. Got to the gym at around 6:10, this daylight savings time change has me screwed up sleepwise, so getting there a little late all week so far.

Self effects - seemed to give me a little energy boost

Effects on others - I don’t usually interact with people (hey, I’m working out), but today a couple of different people wanted to talk with me.

After showering, I had to go for my weekly Testosterone shot at the local clinic - I have low T, but these shots REALLY help. I did one spray of TAC and one spray of Ammo from my recent order (30 ml bottle, Blue Summer fragrance, Double strength) each to the front of my shirt.

Self effects - I just felt confident all day

Effects on others - There are 2 hot girls at the T clinic who give the shots, I will refer to them as E and B. E was there today (8/10, late 20’s), normally she is friendly with me, but today it was off the charts. Very chatty, wanted to talk about working out, how skinny her legs are, how good my workouts are working for me, etc. She got a good dose of phero from me as she was taking blood pressure, and it is a small room we were in, so there was no escaping my phero cloud. I noticed she also seemed very fidgety, her foot was bouncing up and down a lot while she sat in her chair entering data into her pc. Finally, when it came time to get the shot, it alternates one side of my butt or the other each week, she took a longer than normal time to get the area clean and give me the shot, seemed like a minute or minute and a half.

Today I just applied 2 drops of A314 to my neck, one drop below each ear, at 5:25 a.m. Heading to the gym now, I’ll update later.

So as I mentioned previously, I applied two drops of A314, one below each ear, before heading to the gym this morning. Needed to mention that this is the oil version Rev 32. I have used this product before several years ago, but this one is from a new order last week.

Self effects - I noticed a tingling on the skin at the application points for about 10 minutes after I applied it, but I remember that from previous versions too. I noticed that I was walking with more “swagger” and confidence all day.

Effects on others - The only thing I noticed at the gym was a couple of the bigger guys looking my way occasionally. Didn’t really notice anything at work - I was careful not to wash the application areas after I showered. I work in a high tech office setting around mostly male engineers, and this is spring break where I live, so down to about half staff right now. Gym was a little light on people too.

I was going out with my wife and daughter to walk around an outdoor shopping mall after work, so at 5:00, just before I left, I applied 1 spray of TUTH Unscented 2.5 mcg from a 30ml bottle that I just bought last week, and one spray IS from a 30 ml bottle I bought a year ago. Sprayed front of shirt with both.

Self effects - I noticed I was looking around at other people more than usual, even when I was not consciously looking for reactions from people.

Effects on others - Did not notice much in the way of reactions, even tried to pass women in stores within 2 meters to see if there was any reaction, but did not notice anything. Might need to up the dose or change application points.

This morning I did one spray of Instant Shine from my 30 ml bottle on the front of my shirt at 5:30 a.m. before heading to the gym.

Self effects - Had the desired effect, boosted my energy and made me more awake before leaving to work out.

Effects on others - the gym was dead today, probably because it is the last Friday of spring break, so sane people have taken the day off! Did strike up a short conversation with a total stranger in the locker room before hitting the showers, which is unusual.

There is a St. Patrick’s day event at our local golf/social club tonight, if I end up going with my wife, I will probably try a mix to see if there are any effects on others, I’m thinking Shine/IO combined with either Ammo or TUTH, I will post results if we do end up going. Daughter is sick today, so I give it less than 50/50 we will be going out tonight.

Well my daughter came around faster than I thought, we think it was something she ate at a restaurant last night, because she is fine now, so we went to the local golf/social club for drinks and music at 7:00 p.m. In preparation, I decided to try a mix out, 1.5 sprays of my newly acquired Ammo 2.5 mcg per spray, Blue Summer scent, to the back of my neck, 1 spray TAC to chest/belly under my shirt, and 1 spray TAC split between inside of forearms. TAC is 2.5 mcg per spray.

When we got to the venue, my wife and I sat at the bar and ate a few snacks, the female bartender who served our beer was giving me eyes, I like that. No IOI from wifey the whole night. Then a couple we knew showed up, so we found a table and sat together. Then another couple we know showed up, joined us. Eventually a few of their lady friends showed up too and sat with us. All the people who joined us are in early 40’s, I am 54.

Now this is where it started to get interesting. The wife of the second couple was sitting right next to me, and we were outside, so I wasn’t sure if the pheros were going to have any affect. She started squirming in her chair after a while, eventually started trying to sit with one foot in her chair, and then back down, this cycle happened 4-5 times. The 2 other husbands got up to go get drinks, and within a minute she moved one seat away, around the corner of our square table so she was now facing me at 90 degrees. She then started complimenting me on how well my jeans fit, and then started telling my wife (again no IOI’s from wife all night) how good I looked, and how happy she must be having a trophy like me hanging off her arm - I’m not making this up! So I’ll call that a hit. Second hit came when the husbands returned with drinks, and the husband of the lady from hit #1 sat next to me, at which point his wife started engaging him to look at my jeans and how good they looked and how he should get the same thing, etc. I think that was hit #2.

Husbands got up again to go get more drinks, I had gone a gotten a few in the interim as well, but was back at the table when they left. An interesting thing had happened, all of the ladies had changed seats by now so they were all down wind from me. It wasn’t windy outside, maybe an occasional 1-2 mph breeze, but it was at my back, and they were all facing me, except my wife, who was next to me (did I mention no IOI’s from wife all night long?).

It was a little dark on that patio, but I noticed some blank stares in my direction as the ladies were talking. So it was getting time for us to leave around 9:30, we needed to get back home to check on our daughter (she’s a teenager, but still she had been sick last night so we needed to check on her), and my wife mentioned we were going to get her some Krispy Kreme donuts before the hot sign went off. At this point, wife of couple #1, who was now sitting next to the wife from hits 1&2 above shouts across the table with husbands all present, “hey Thunderlips, when does your hot light go off?” Naturally I replied “it doesn’t”. A minute later we got up to leave, and she reminded the other ladies at the table that my hot light doesn’t go off, and they were all giggling and talking to low for me to hear - hit #3!

All in all a fun night, the pheros worked for me in an outdoor setting, but again no IOI’s from my wife tonight (yet).

Just checking in, it’s Saturday. had a bunch of errands to do. Put 1 drop of A314 on each side of my neck (2 drops total), rubbed the drops into my skin in about a 1 inch patch below each ear at about 10:50 a.m. this morning.

Self effects - I really like how this one makes me feel after I put it on, like I’m invincible. Notice that I walk a little taller, shoulders back, not doing it consciously, it just happens.

Effects on others - I had to get a replacement part for my pool from my favorite pool store, this was around 1:30 p.m. There were a number of customers, and one guy manning the store that I recognized, and the computers were all down, so nobody could check out. The clerk remembered my name, and told me I could just take the part I needed, and come back and pay next time I was in the store. Not sure what he did with the other customers, but I did get some looks. Maybe an A314 hit?

Also notice wife is acting unusually nice to me today, could be the A314, or maybe something to do with last night?

Nice journal I am subscribing! Looks like you are on the right track and really just have fun with it. Being 54 I see a lot of these will be widely useable for you like the A314 for a variety of environments. I would take the wife being nice to you as a hit from the A314. The A314 would help her see you as valuable and will help her realize that you are a great catch. I am 37 and I use 2 drops of A314 and I get this same effect you described.

I use 2 drops and 1 spray TUTH as a common base mix and I am 37 and it works great on my wife. Now I do have to use others like IH, IShine, and P74 or P96 to make it more useable so it is not to intimidating for day use.

Once you feel more comfortable with your testing I would try A314 with IShine and see what you think as the IShine is a really great match with the A314.

You are always welcome in my journal and I encourage all and any feedback. If you ever need anything just post here or you can send me a PM and I will respond. Very nice start!

I remember “thanking” your first post but it looks like I forgot to subscribe.

I am rectifying that right now. :slight_smile:

Nice journal indeed! :slight_smile:

Thanks justintime469, I actually have read your journal while I was just stalking the forums before I started to post. I will try your advice in terms of mixes, and let you know how they work out for me. One of the questions I have is how these pheros act vs. the HRT (testosterone) therapy I am currently on. The HRT people have got me pretty well regulated to a T level that would be normal for a man in his 20’s or 30’s, but I’m not sure what impact that will have, if any, on phero quantity or mixtures. Thanks again!

Thank you Dee!

Boss was coming back from vacation today, so I needed to get to work early, so no gym today. I applied 2 drops A314 v32, 1 on each side of my neck, along with 1 spray of shine to front of shirt at 6:50 a.m.

Self effects - Quick shot of energy from Shine, focus and determination from A314.

Effects on others - had the desired effect on my boss and several other people I work with, behaved very respectful towards me, one thing I noticed was that other than requests for status on various projects, conversation mostly kept to personal items, vacation experiences, etc.

Refreshed my pheros at 5:00 p.m., because I had to go pick up my daughter from swimming at 6:00. This was so I could test any reactions from others in a relatively enclosed environment. Typically the ratio of parents picking up kids is about 60% to 70% female. I split 1 drop A314 v32 between both sides of my neck, and did 1 spray of Shine to front of shirt.

Self effects - I was starting to drag towards the end of the day, but Shine seemed to perk me up.

Effects on others - in the waiting area of the swim center, I tried to sit in a central place so I could gauge reactions around me. I did notice a couple of individual Asian women kept glancing at me, both probably late 40’s. I was surprised when I looked around one time and there was a Caucasian woman probably early to mid 30’s standing about 3 feet behind me, watching her kid swim, that one snuck up on me.

Since I do this 3 to 4 times per week, I think I will try to experiment with different single or combo pheros to see what happens in that environment. Unfortunately not a lot of young lookers there, other than the swim coaches and desk staff, but we’ll see what comes of it over time.

With HRT it may effect how much A314, Ammo, or TUTH you need to use. I remember when I took a stronger natural testosterone booster with DHEA I got hit on more by older women and had to lower my TUTH a little. Sounds like you got things dialed in with the HRT and you will just have to test these 3 mainly for your sweet spot. If you do find you are close to or do OD you could try some socials with it to help bring it back like a small amount of IO should help.

Today I decided to try P134 as a single molecule. I did 1 spray to each side of my neck (2 sprays total) at 5:30 a.m., and refreshed with 1 more spray to each side of my neck at 3:45 p.m. This was from a togo bottle from a previous purchase.

Self effects - I didn’t really feel anything different after either application of P134.

Effects on others - Got to the gym at 6:00 a.m., only interacted with one person, total stranger that I had seen there before, overweight black man, very friendly, probably mid-50’s like me. Smiled and encouraged each other a couple of time in passing. I don’t think this was a hit based on P134, as there is a quasi camaraderie among early morning gym people usually. Said hi to a lady bodybuilder as well, but we have talked workout stuff on many occasions - for the record she is married, her husband works out there too, but not as much, and she is WAY more advanced than me, and has always been helpful when I ask advice.

I did notice at work that when I interacted with people, I would get more details on items than usual, work related or personal. This was without prompting on my part. I think I was getting one more level of detail on things, not all the way down to the bits and bytes. This effect remained all day, including after the refresh sprays.

When I got to the swim center at 5:40 p.m. to pick my daughter up, I again positioned myself so that I would be around the most people so I could observe reactions. The only unusual behavior I saw was that normally when I sit down, the chairs around me usually remain empty. While I saw no overt IOI’s today, I had women come and sit in the chairs right next to me on both sides, as well as one more to the right 2 chairs away as well. It was a little crowded, but there were many other seats available. Not sure if this was P134 related or not, I will try this one again in the coming weeks and report what happens.

Tomorrow is HRT shot day, since nurses E or B will be there, I will actually try a combo again like last week. I’m thinking of one spray ammo and one spray TUTH this week.

Today I applied 2 drops of A314 v32 to my neck, 1 drop on each side just below the ears at 5:30 a.m. before heading to the gym.

Self effects - still feel that tingling in my skin at the application spots for about ten minutes after I put it on, felt confident and looking forward to working out.

Effects on others - I waved hi to the lady body builder I mentioned in a previous post as we passed each other between machines, I had just gotten there and was heading to the mats to do abs, and she was heading between machines, and since she is usually wearing headphones, it’s easier just to wave. After I’m done I head to the dumbbell area and start my workout for the day, and see that after a few minutes, she has entered that area too, wandering in and out doing supersets. Her behavior was different today, while she was resting between sets I kept catching her glancing over at me.

After I worked out and showered, I re-applied 1 drop of A314, and split it between the two areas I had already applied it too earlier. I also applied 1 spray of TUTH unscented to the front of my neck, and 1 spray of Ammo Blue Summer scent right on top of that to the front of my neck all at 7:40 a.m. - it’s HRT shot day, and either E or B would be there giving it to me, so I wanted to be ready.

Today it was B, early 30’s, blonde, rockin body, 8/10 looks, but her personality gets her to a 9 in my book. For the record, if we both weren’t married, I assure everyone that I would have already given her the opportunity to shoot me down…

Now she seemed tired, and this was due to the fact that she spent the weekend out of town at a bachelorette party, which may have influenced the reaction. We were in the small shot room, door closed for at least 5 minutes, so I know that she was immersed in my phero cloud. She was a little more quiet than usual, and not as flirty. I will try this mix again on her at a later date. Another unusual thing that happened as I was leaving, she had far off gaze, like she was looking through or behind me, and said, “it was nice seeing you again Thunderlips”. Usually it’s just a see you next week kind of thing. I’m hoping her quietness was a hit.

I forgot to mention that yesterday, at 4:30 p.m., I refreshed my pheromones with one spray of TUTH unscented followed by 1 Spray Ammo Blue Summer Scent to the front of my neck.

Self effects - more energy late in the day

Effects on others - I went to pick up my daughter from swimming early, arrived at 5:40, and strategically seated myself in an area that had several women already sitting. Think of this as rows of folding chairs facing a window/wall where parents can observe their kids swimming.

Tall blonde mid-30’s (7/10) talking to seated brunette also mid-30’s (5/10) one seat away to my left. Blonde was at 9:00 position to me, but after a few minutes had slowly moved to 7:00 position, brunette had to turn in her seat to keep facing her. Could not tell in window reflection if there were any IOI’s.

Brunette late 30’s (6/10) one row behind me and 2 seats to the right. Noticed periodic foot shaking while I was sitting in front of her. Daughter came out from pool at 6:00, I went and grabbed her bags so she could go shower, and decided to sit in the row behind the brunette to see what would happen. She was again 2 seats to my right. I noticed more foot shaking, and shifting around in her chair so she was leaning in my direction. Then a blonde lady who was there yesterday (early 40’s, 5/10) came and sat directly in front of me - she had definitely been exposed to my cloud yesterday. Then a weird thing happened at 6:15 - the brunette’s child must have been done, because she got up to leave, but instead of just walking down her “aisle” in front of the blonde to get out, she instead pulled a chair out of the way and exited by walking through my aisle directly in front of me. I saw her giving me glances too - I think this was probably a phero hit.

Went to a farm-league basketball game last night with some neighbors. We had floor seats with a table on one corner of the court, with a waitress that would bring us drinks and food. I applied 2 sprays of MX297 at 5:45 p.m., 1 hour prior to meeting up to drive to the game. The other 3 people were all men in the mid-60’s to mid-70’s age range - I was way younger than the men I was with.

Self effects - confident and energized

Effects on others - conversation was flowing nicely, and they often brought the conversation back around to things about me. There was nobody seated within 10 feet of our table due to the layout of seats and no-shows from season ticket holders directly around us, did not notice any IOI’s from any ladies.

I had relatives visiting this past weekend, so I decided to give A314 v32 a run as a solo phero for dinner both Saturday and Sunday nights. On Saturday I tried 3 drops, 1 to each side of the neck, and 1 along jaw line, applied 1 hour before we met up. On Sunday I tried 2 drops, 1 drop to each side of neck, also 1 hour before we met up. Still trying to find my sweet spot with A314, so this was an experiment on same people, different days.

Self effects - noticed the tingling feeling around application points both days for 10-15 minutes. Super confident both days.

Effects on others - Very positive interactions with relatives, conversation kept coming back around to me and my family, but it was them steering it that way, not me. At restaurants things went well with the wait staff both days. One thing to note - on Sunday we arrived and were told 30-45 minute wait, but within 2 minutes the hostess was chasing me down saying there was a table ready if I was XXXX person, which sounded very similar to my name, so we took that table. A few minutes later she re-appeared all apologetic, and said the table was for a different party, I offered to get up, and she disappeared again. A minute later she came back and said we should just keep the table. Seemed like she went off and negotiated the whole thing for me.

Curious about how others on the forum found their sweet spot with A314.

I see most peoples feedback is always really good with ishine in terms of self effects, Ive tried a load of different doses with it and not had anything at all from it. Can you tell me a bit more about the feelings you are getting using it, how much you are using to get the effects and how long they last?

I thought a nice way to see these things at work would be to induce some self effects and see the magic at work but so far Ive nothing positive (or even negative) to report… Reading this made me curious

Hi Snooker - I find that one or two sprays to the front of my shirt gives me an energized feeling and perks me up. I also find that I find myself thinking clearer. I have not tried application directly to skin yet.

2 days ago (3/28/2017) I did another P134 experiment. I did 1 spray of P134 split between the back of each hand at 7:30 a.m., applied one more spray the same way at noon, and one more time at 5:00 p.m. The way I applied was to do a full spray from my togo bottle to the back of one hand, and then rub the back of the other hand on that spot to split the dose between hands.

Self effects - I did feel a little cloudy in my thinking for the first 30 minutes after the first application, but I did not sleep well the previous night, so that could have been it too, but other than that I did not notice any self effects.

Effects on others - I did not notice any change in behavior amongst people I interacted with throughout the day.

Has anybody gotten a read on what this molecule is all about?