Totally with you on that one bro but does there body language say something else? Or is it a quick glance and head down and away?
I’m not too good with reading body language but if something stands out I’d certainly pick that up… so no..
Most of the most notorius seducers and rakes in history actually were not that good looking! Ever seen a portrait of Casanova? (Giacomo Casanova).
Zan touches upon this big time during Cliff’s convention (granted, last time we saw Zan in SF he looked like a CK model).
Consider ourselves lucky, men, for we do not need to rely heavily on looks to attract desirable women. Women, on the other hand are much more dependent on their looks, or better or for worse. Biologically speaking your physical attributes determine whether or not you are successful at reproducing, an attribute that is significantly more important for men. (See archetypes of women we desire).
Why do we like women with long hair? bigger eyes? longer legs? big breasts? tight ass? (sequentially: longer hair and hair quality indicates good food intake and that you’re healthy, eyes are important for spotting danger (caveman days) and our minds have yet to evolve, Im not sure about long legs… there’s something about it we can’t resist. breasts indicate again, healthiness and ability to feed the child (not withstanding plastic surgery). A tighter ass indicates that she’s not broken into yet, which was very important back in the day when infant mortality was a lot higher and having a 2nd to 3rd baby is not as easy."
Methinks you speak for yourself. Sounds like the Western ideal of a Playboy Bunny. And 1 billion Chinese would probably disagree–they certainly seem to reproduce fine with “less desirable women”–as you just described the polar opposite of a typical Asian woman. I prefer women with slanted almond eyes. Don’t care much for the “cow eye” look. I also like smaller “perky” boobs and not the whopper T. Tight ass and long hair are nice, but a nice bob cut won’t limber my timber. Also, much can be said about a little junk in the trunk.
Incidentally, eye size has nothing to do with eyesight quality and effectiveness. And early man evolved on the plains of Africa, not in caves.
good thing my ex was from another planet! 
i cant say my height/ eyes / short hair ever kept me from dating…
now that i think about it, my hair is considerably longer and i get less attention 
i really dont think you speak for alot of men.
maybe for pua’s ?
Also, it was an extremely ethnocentric ideal woman…
So with Ammo, does it just give people “glances”
It’s been hard for me to really notice anything with the supply I have.
Every night I’m in a nightclub, I noticed some girls stare me down, some just look, a couple smiled, and just this past Saturday…
There were 2 girls. 3 guys were all night hitting on them. I was standing with a guy friend looking relaxed and the one girl started walking closer to us slowly. She ended up right infront of us, but looking in the same direction we were.
Later we noticed them leaving and they said bye to the guys who were talking ot them, and just after they said bye, she turned her eyes to me for a few seconds and then walked away. I knew that meant “I’m leaving now! This is your last chance to say something to me!”
The only problem with me is in life I’ve been getting checked out cause of my looks, so I can’t exactly tell if it’s my looks or if it’s the impact of 2x Ammo.
Or can it be both?
Anyone have an opinion?
Thanks 
This past weekend I tested out my Ammo 2x again and realized.. Either..
- It’s too strong
- I’m still searching for the best way to apply it
- Or I can’t tell if what I’m noticing is by the Ammo or my looks.
Throughout life I’ve been checked out a lot by women and I find it difficult to tell whether if the Ammo is making an Impact or girls just think I’m cute. Here’s my story.
I applied 1 spray of Ammo 2x onto my left wrist, then rubbed a bit on to my right. From their I rubbed both wrists a bit on the neck and behind ears.
Then after I applied 1 spray of Instant Shine on my chin.
Well from my house to the club I had a long sleeve sweater on so unsure how the Ammo on my wrists worked later.
Inside the club I was standing with a friend and we noticed 2 girls. A group of 3 guys were hitting on them. These girls were over a metre in front of us looking in the same direction as us. One of them turned around to evaluate the club and saw us. Soon after she was taking steps slowly backwards and they ended up directly in front of us.
Later I noticed as they were about to leave, they waved bye to the 3 guys and right after she turned her head to me for a few seconds, kept focus on my eye for over a second then left. The message I got was “I’m leaving. This is your last chance to come talk to me!” lol
Would anyone think it’s the Ammo which did this or if the girl thought I was cute?
In the past I noticed women usually smile when they see me from a distance. Since start using Ammo, I realize they look then come closer to me while keeping the same facial expression they had before.
Thanks
Maybe it’s just you bro, maybe you were good looking to them, maybe it’s the way you were standing, or looking. Who knows. I’ve been wearing Ammo and I haven’t noticed any changes whatsoever. Even though everyone keeps praising it.
There are two different things here:
a) Women love attention and we don’t much care what a guy looks like while he is worshipping us. Does appreciating his admiration translate to doing him? Nope. (Unless maybe he is really hot. Kidding.)
b) Men are attracted to the same things women are. Sucess, good genes, and status indicators.
Ever consider how successful a woman must be to remain tan all the time, maintain a perfect pedicure, stay in shape but have a large, firm chest, have flawless skin, wear hot clothes, and keep her bikini line immaculate? While paying a mortgage? She needs free time for all this as well as money to burn.
A lady who works at Walmart, doesn’t get enough sleep because she works two jobs or has kids, eats fast food, and doesn’t work out, will generally not look very good after a while. Her genes might help her while she is still young, but eventually the neglect will show and guys will find her less attractive.
On the other hand, if a woman has money and time to spend on herself, she can even make up for what she lacks genetically through surgery, makeup, and hitting the gym hard.
Women spend money on looking good, probably because it is a holdover from what used to be our main occupation: getting a rich man so that being a wife would be comfortable and the kids would be provided for.
What do we do now? Do women try less with their looks? Do men try harder? Do we stay the same even though the rules have changed? I don’t know any answers, just mulling this topic over currently.
Give yourself some credit. Pheromones do not create attraction, they merely enhance it. They amp you up slightly but it’s still you. Besides, are you sure she was near enough to sense your phero signature? In crowded bars you need to be in really tight quarters–within a few feet–for her to know the pheromones belonged to you.
Dude. Ammo or your charisma, does it matter? JUST SAY HELLO
-AW
That’s what I was wondering about. She was a bit in front of me (maybe over a meter) but the club was not crowded just yet. There was an empty space between us.
alpha_wolf, I would but my communication at really loud environments is poor. I’m working on improving that though
rtype6,
It’s an excuse dude! You are making excuses. Guys approach women, women wait to be approached by guys. If there were NO such things as pheromones would you not approach?
Approach
Approach
Approach
It’s to easy to not.
What if the girl is playing hard to get 
If she is playing hard to get to you, then you are not using VAH skills and thus need as much help as you can possibly get. Face it, she has you under her spell. You’ll chase and chase, until she grows disinterested and ends up dating me who she’s been chasing the whole time while you chased her.
Vicious cycle!
…?
It’s not complicated.
sry.. wasn’t aware we were graced by such a true pickup artist