I notice it smells good, but that’s it. I do get a slight headache though. 2-4 sprays is what i normally use.
Try different application points, on head/hair - wrists - back of neck - maybe try it in a different situation/environment as well.
I could try hair,hadn’t thought of that.
Your body probably just needs to get used to this one.
I used to crash on IShine and get a headache after a while when I first started wearing it. Now I usually wear 2-3 without any problems.
Hair is the best application spot for shine IME .
As above: takes a while for your chemistry to adjust to mones.
I find prolonged use of shine causes fatigue: so I take a break for a few days.
4 sprays is quite a bit really you may get the same efect from a lower dose.
I don’t mean to hijack this guys thread but…
Is it possible to OD on shine, or have adverse effects.? Also are there any other effects a associated with it.? I tried 1 spray and it seemed to work well (on myself, even 2 sprays),..but around others, nobody seems to convey the effects it claims.
OD is possible yes. Just try 5-6 sprays once. After a couple of hours you’ll feel drained and cranky. Ready to take a nap.
For effects on other people: test more.
Ok I’ll see what happens.
Some decent quality food, electrolyte replenishing drink and the occasional zone-out for a short time will help you stave-off the IS crash.
Yeah I think I actually had the IS crash last night. After my shower in the evening to wash the pheros off, I layed in bed and pretty much felt a dead feeling and crashed out. Actually I even kind of woke up like that too.
I guess IS is good for sleep lol..
But I think my issue was misunderstood..
The effects seem to be fine on myself..
But not for others. People seemed to avoid me. I’ve tested it 1, and 2 sprays, and paired and not paired with others.
I don’t know what it is. All the other pheros I have seem to live up to their names but my IS seems to not help at all -except for if I want help with sleeping, or want a boost of energy.
When I first started using IS I would get self effects. Now, as far as I can tell, they do nothing for me, even after taking months off from applying IS.
Did you notice effects on others?
Jdub , people may be avoiding you if you are looking at them for a reaction.
You may not be concious of doing it but you may be “staring” at them which will make them uncomfortable.
Effects on others arent only due to the pheromones themselves but in how they change your body language and the way you behave.
Don’t look too hard for hits/effects on others . They will be there but can be subtle.
In some ways its almost best to apply Pheromones and than “forget” that you are wearing them and just act as things take you.
Go with the Flow.
I see what you’re saying, but I take my mone testing quite seriously and try to consider every factor I can with regards to swaying the tests in any particular direction.
I don’t consider myself a stare(er) but I do hold eye contact when I catch dihl.
Even if I did stare, the staring doesn’t seem to effect them with any other mone I wear, just IS and p83..
Perhaps my body already produces enough of a pheromone similar in composition so that I essentially OD.
And what makes it stand out is that not only do I not seem to get hits but I appear to repel people, kind of like ghosting.
I suppose if I ever wanted to take up the career as a thief, I could lather myself in 10000mcg of IS, dress in casual attire, and grab wallets and purses..and who would know the difference.
But this is far in the other direction of what I’m trying to accomplish with my mone accomplice.
Oh well, one mans trash is another mans treasure. When the wife’s got a tongue that’s yearning to give someone a good lashing, spray on some IS Jdub and watch her stand in awe as you magically disappear.. 
Cool I understand what you mean now:
I believe you are coming across as Beta, This has happened to me when using Shine with A1 before. With a crowd that already knew me the change of signature confused them and people chose to ignore me and I “Ghosted”
So you may need to use some None with larger doses of Shine ? to match your natural signature and be congruent.
Yeah I feel as though I have a high tolerance for -none and a low tolerance for socials. It seems a little bit of a social goes a long way and I often put more sprays of TUTH than many men on here would recommend.
I think in order for many of the P’s to work in my favor, I would need much much more -none.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Just based on that, I think I’ll try a really Heavy -none mix with the p83, IS, and perhaps another social to test this theory.
-as a matter of fact..
In my journal, I recently posted how I had put much more -none than usual added with some p83 and for once the p83 seemed to work in my favor.
Not all pheros will work the same for all people, so don’t worry if IS isn’t doing it for you - there could be all sorts of reasons
If you are not getting good results with one phero, put it aside in a cool dark place and try something else. Sometimes you will do batter if you come back to it after a while or you might find something that suits you much better instead.
Interesting: I am just starting to experiment with P83.
Perhaps it will allow me to wear more -None myself..