Today, I worked 1st period at school, and afterward applied 6 sprays of IS (probably a bit less, not sure if I pushed down the nozzle all the way). Definitely double than what I have tried before. All day people were just bitching at me, and getting angry at me. I was ready to snap before the day was even over, and I’m the guy that’s always calm and never angry, that’s how bad it was. It was just like I couldn’t do anything right that day, and everyone just felt the need to make a huge deal and get upset about it, with me being the victim even if I had done nothing. I’m talking everyone from adults to my peers that I work with in class.
If it makes a difference, I picked up a big and am a bit sick, and I seemed to have the slightest fever (barely there).
So, do you think this has to do with IS? If not, what the heck is going on?
Edit: Just realized, after soccer training and running water over my face and neck (where half the IS was, other half on arms) I was around people from school the rest of the evening and we all had a blast, even people I had just met were responding very well to me. The other half on my fore arms probably rubbed off as well, as I am a goal keeper (so my arms were constantly sliding on the turf). Coincidence?
I know I could always wear 6 sprays again and see if it happens again, but honestly, I had such a shitty day that I really am not willing to try it again.
Six sprays and more is into the IS crash range IME and I would be feeling a bit tired, drawn/drained and grumpy, with maybe a headache or fidgety feel after a few hours but I would normally be seeing all the good things about IS for a while first. I would usually try and offset this by having a wash, rest, some decent food and a non alcoholic/electrolyte replenishing drink.
It could also be that so much IS is relaxing your subjects to the point where they are actually feeling really good about having a good bitch at you. Which may or may not be a good thing!
Also remember that the self effects of IS are most pronounced when you are still quite new to it - In time you could probably adjust to even a dose that high if you wore it enough.
but alex, you said “I was around people from school the rest of the evening and we all had a blast, even people I had just met were responding very well to me.”
Im going to assume you’re normal and have “had a blast” previously in life and brought this up because you noticed that the evening was better than normal?
If so, then wouldn’t you agree that those were effects you were seeing?
I honestly didn’t know you could OD in that manner… I always assumed that IS megadoes or ‘IS OD’ would equal you grinning so wide and so hard that you’d break your face or something.
Very interesting. I might have to test a huge IS dose soon.
I’ve been wearing a cocktail of 2 spray A1+IH and 1 spray A314 for weeks now. Results have been good, nice connections, nice mutual respect etc. Maybe a little on the serious side, could use with a ‘brightener’ to make people happy, not just calm and collected.
Today I thought I’d mix it up and pick up my IS to add in. It’s almost empty. So I spray my hair and face HEAPS just getting the little spritzy sprays out of the end of the bottle. Probably far too much?
Anyhoo, BIG MISTAKE it seems. I expected it would make the people around me happier, including myself. But I had the same exact signs as you. Feeling constantly in the wrong, people getting annoyed and that shun kind of effect towards me - the same people I’ve been wearing the aforementioned combo around. I could feel the anger. Even simple conversation was almost completely disregarded. Took me COMPLETELY by surprise.
I see what you are getting at, my apologies for being unclear. It wasn’t too out of the ordinary, but I do suppose it is possible that those were subtle effects and that it could have been better than normal. It’s hard to say, since I can’t really record this sort of info.
So basically, yes we had a great time, but then again I (and whomever I meet/go with) always seem to have a great time. Subtle effects? Possible. Am I sure? Not really.
Hope you know what I’m saying!
I considered that as well. The scent was very light, and some of the people I am with on a daily basis always tell me if I am smelling strongly (as I do apply too much of one of my colognes accidentally sometimes). Also, I have been using a range of sprays, each multiple days at a time, so I think someone would have said something to me. Possible, but I think unlikely.
As far as you having the same effects… hmm very interesting. Other than us two, no one else seems to have ODed on Shine after looking through some other threads. How many full sprays do you think you used? (I know you bottle was low, so just estimate I suppose haha)
I read a post last night of someone seeing complete ghosting with just one spray over their usual dose of three. I definitely think it’s possible, even if only just from too strong a scent alone.
I really can’t say, I was just getting the little quifs of spray all over. I probably sprayed about 7 or 8 times, but I wouldn’t have been getting full sprays (at least I think).
Yes you can with pretty much all pheromones you just dont get the classic OD we refer to here. To much can cause over stimulation and depending on which mone it is you will have different effects.
The Classic OD we talk about in here refers to ghosting or the “Opposite of Desired” effect which usually occurs mostly with anone products and is the most prominently noticed OD because it can inspire extreme aggressiveness.
Ishine is more a physical kind of side effect as opposed to an OD in that it poops you out and can make your over tired and cranky.
Anol in high doses can zone you out. Thats were the ideal for spaceland came from.
These are all effects from to much but all of them are not your classic OD’s With certain pheromones like anone or the other heavy masculines the dose ceiling before hitting OD levels can be rather low.
With social type mones it tends to be much higher and just creates a different outcome that may be beneficial to some and not to others as in anol.
More is not better with mones that is why we stress sweet testing. They are not one size fits all.
@ Alex if your coming down with something Ishine can intensify that feeling. I avoid it when I am sick. I avoid all mones when I am sick.
Your rather young and its a well known fact that any type of over stimulation in young people can induce crankiness. To much sugar, caffeine or even Ishine. In us older peeps who are not as easily stimulated it takes a lot more LOL. Just cut back on your dose. If you want a better effect instead of using more consider where your using it.
Try for highly diffusive places on the body. The back of the head tends to be good for Ishine. Do not spray it in your face.
I know you said it seemed like everyone was cranky but they are not reacting to the mones as much as they are reacting to your mood and Ishine can sneak up on you and you may not even realize your being moody.
Ah thank you Tisha, very informative. Indeed I was probably a bit moody that day, whether I was moody before or if I became moody after someone got grumpy at me, and then it just snowballed, I do not know. Last few days I have been using 3-4 sprays (I don’t think theyre all full sprays) and I seem to be achieving much better results. I’ve tried it with and without Ammo, but don’t see much of a difference yet. I will try the back of the head! I normally do a spray to each side of the neck, and then a spray to the tops of my forearms.
