I’ve been working my way up to being at 5 spray now of instant shine. I really can’t do more tha. That. For some reason I find the stuff makes me extremely cranky and I feel even if I tried a few more sprays I would just wreak like a crazy perfume lady. I’m pretty frustrated thus far since it seems everyone has so much fun with this one. No one pays any attention to me when I wear it and at work the ladies all talk amongst themselves and exclude me for whatever reason. I was hoping to change this with mones. thought this was supposed to help make people want to talk to me. What should I do?)
Instant shine suppose to do the opp of make you cranky which you know from reading posts about it.
Not quite sure what you are doing or what advise to give you so i’ll point you in the right direction.
Pm or call our pheromone expert Steve and he will definitely be able to know or pin point what difficulty you are having.
All you need is someone who knows their mones to put you on the right road.
Good luck! ![]()
I never use more than 3 sprays of 1x Instant Shine at a go. I have never heard of OD’ing on the mones, but I expect you could overdo fragrances, get a headache, and get cranky.
How do you do with caffeine?
In my personal experiences thus far with IS (keep in mind I only got it a few days ago… also I think I will make a post on this soon) it flips from no self-effects at all at 2 sprays into
HOLY CRAP I HAD JUST FIVE SHOTS OF ESPRESSO
at 3 sprays (I asked our office manager if she put crack in the coffee today - 1x spray to the neck/jawline, 1x to the hair, 1x to the left wrist). I did see a couple people on the forum talking about having a slight ‘crash’ from it a few hours after spraying it so I wonder if they were having the same effect? If you don’t do well with caffeine maybe this is the same effect making you cranky?
Also - perhaps the psychological effect - if you’re feeling cranky it’ll probably broadcast to the world in your tone, body language, etc., whether you think you are acting the part or not, and you’ll be excluded because of that, maybe not the IS itself?
Well, I’m not SteveO, lol, not even close. ![]()
First, just to make ya feel a little better…there is no Shine for Bella…nope. In fact I rarely wear it myself because it gives me a dull headache. However, I don’t have that problem with TAA (the main component in Instant Shine). It’s not the Neroli that bothers me, so it must be something else that’s in Instant Shine, but not in TAA, that adversely effects me. Another molecule/scent perhaps, dunno.
Ms. rabbit makes a good point about how mones individually effect us. Yes, there are some pheromones you can OD on. Androstenone being the primary one. Over use is one cause. More is not nescessarily better. Also, with Androstenone, build up can occur if it’s not washed off properly but normal good hygiene practices usually prevent that from happening. For some it just takes getting used to and headaches, when first starting out, are a common reaction. The headaches usually subside after a few uses. If they don’t then maybe that pheromone isn’t for you. It happens.
Mood can also play an important part in how pheromones are directed. Just as pheromones play a part in directing your mood/emotions it also works the other way around. If you were cranky because of the headache/scent overload you weren’t being congruent with the “alleged” shiny image you were trying to project. No cranky grumpypuss is gonna be shiny even if she sprays herself with Halle Berry’s rack. Mood plays an important part in how the pheromones effect you, yourself, and how your mood effects others even though you’re wearing pheromones that are suppose to illicite a particular reaction. Not everyone gets all/the same effects/reactions that are commonly reported. Some get no self-effects at all. No matter what you use, you’re mileage may vary.
Five sprays is a good amount of Instant Shine even at 1X. I understand your frustration with not seeing obvious “hits” but fact is some nuts are just hard to crack. You could stand on your head and spit solid gold nuggets into their safety deposit boxes and they’d still barely nod at you.
Is this a new job for you, Mis? I don’t know what your relationships are/have been like with the women you work with. Have they all worked together for a long time and you’re the hot new bartender? I know from experience, sometimes, despite your efforts to engage them/make friends they just don’t like you on sight. Maybe you’re too smart, too pretty and/or have too much on the ball. Competitors hate that, lol…even when they’re the only ones competing. Not saying that’s the case with you but it sure sounds like it might be where you’re coming from. Hopefully not and with a bit of encouragement/time/persistence from you, they’ll thaw out.
Nothing can/will make them talk short of an interrogation by Sargent Joe Friday/threat of incarceration and/or perhaps being held at gunpoint. The pheromones don’t “work” anybody, that’s your job. Think of them as a tool to help grease the way. Perhaps they feel you’re keeping your distance from them or you seem unapproachable for some reason…cranky?
Instant Shine gives others a bright impression of you but you must also do your part by being friendly/pleasant/engaging with them. ![]()
I’m going to suggest you try Instant Openness. It might help you to feel more like approaching others and vise versa. Give it a shot and be a bit more friendly. First test it by itself to determine your sweet spot, then try it with the Instant Shine. Cut the IShine back to 2-3 sprays and add a couple of sprays of Instant Openness to it and see how that goes. It takes time to break into a crew that’s worked together for a long time. Kill 'em with kindness, kiddo. ![]()
Baby steps. Just take it easy. I know it’s hard but with a little time/patience you’ll get the hang of it. ![]()
Bella
with shine the less you use the more it affects you and people closer to you the more you use the more it effects people all over your visinity making eveyone happy but you because with high doses it will make you cranky dipressed and many other bad effects. i like to do one spray on the face for that confedednce that lasts about an hour or so and then on spray on the hair. i would then bring a togo bottle to work or where ever and when you think the social air is in your favor use a spray on the neck. also if you move around and leave alot they will notice they get happier when your around but if your always staying in the same stop they wont recognize you.
also a spray or 2 of IO on the back of the neck or back of hair helps them start talking to you which is when you should then add the other spray of shine then once you got one person noticing you its domino effect and the mones have done there part then the rest is up to you, how you act if you smile and crack jokes and make the enviorment fun people will want to be around you more ![]()
In my experimentation, I found FOR ME 4 x sprays of IS was too much and too far, it pushes my mood to ‘down and fragile’. Tested this more than once, had some weird smoothing over to do with people and swore never to wear any more than 3 sprays ever again.
Oh wow, so you dud find too much of it made you feel depressed then? Too much instant shine that is
I do have some IO so I will try that, thanks
Its been reported several times, by a very select group, that Ishine can cause irritability. You are certainly not alone and what I would suggest is to start off with one spray and see if it happens then. Afterwards continue with the same spray using sparingly over a couple of days. You might even take a day or so off in between. If it keeps happening, even at one spray, well you know you are included in that select group.
By personal observations, its usually people who are a bit ADD who are adversely effected. Certainly I am unaware of your situation and by no means am I calling you ADD or anything else. I’m not a medical doctor, only a doctor of Love
so my advice is not to be construed as any type of medical advice. Seriously though you should sweet spot test for a few days and see what happens. The only reason you should ever be at 5 sprays is if 4 isn’t quite as good as 5 and 6 is to much. Obviously thats not the case if you are having bad results.
This fits with my experience of IS self-effects = caffeine effects almost perfectly… glad to know that wasn’t totally off base! Bizarre (and interesting)!
Yes, and very fragile.
Perhaps the high concentration of happiness is suddenly unattainable by natural means and therefore the natural occurring endorphins are not enough to elevate the brain to those levels and therefore depression sets in. It happens often in drug use like meth. You get so high, but on the come down you’d want to kill yourself, because you can never get as high as you were without assistance such as chemicals. Most rational people understand that continued use of heavy drugs would defeat the intent of getting high and maintaining happiness in their lives, hence recreational drug use.
Jeeeeeeeeez, Steve ROFSWL; you sound like me. No, I have to say IS doesn’t have the same effect for me. It makes me smile, yes. It doesn’t elevate my mood and never did. I wear the IS mainly for the everyone else bit; I don’t have fun with the IS the way I hear described on here; but I like when the people around me get the unknowing enjoyment. Now please explain to all the rest of the peeps that will come on here and read this that you are not calling me a meth addict.
I wasn’t going to say anything rabbit, but now that you mentioned it ![]()
I know you “wasn’t going to say anything” that’s why I asked you to. I don’t have any faith that someone won’t start that rumour.
Notice I stopped myself from going further and commenting on what I think of people.
I want props.
Just keep a big smile on that blond head and keep wearing tight sweaters and who cares what people think
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Let me stop before you go get mad at me
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I’m JOKING EVERYBODY! The silly Rabbit AKA Astrea is not a known, or suspected Meth addict. She is however addicted to carrots and that can be confirmed by independent third party research as generously provided by myself below:
YouTube - Bugs Bunny / Merrie Melodies - Case of the Missing Hare - 1942
PROOF POSITIVE TIME 1:27
Steve
Just keep a big smile on that blond head and keep wearing tight sweaters and who cares what people think
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Let me stop before you go get mad at me
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I’m JOKING EVERYBODY! The silly Rabbit AKA Astrea is not a known, or suspected Meth addict. She is however addicted to carrots and that can be confirmed by independent third party research as generously provided by myself below:
YouTube - Bugs Bunny / Merrie Melodies - Case of the Missing Hare - 1942 Now that I’ve had some cartoon fun; I’ve got to get back to the business of being silly. :pI’m a Bugs Bunny freak! I had over 10 hours of cartoons + 2 Bugs movies - all recorded by me. I love the Merrie Melodies you sent! He was still “Charles M Jones” then!!!
Not yet Chuck. THANKYOU!!!
No sweater, long sleeved T shirt. Still shows the rack, tho’. Not much can hide it.
Definitely not mad with the requested qualifier.
Now that I’ve had some cartoon fun; I’ve got to get back to the business of being silly. ![]()