To '-none' or not to '-none', that is the question!?

Hi everyone, I’ve just joined the forum & completed my intro…so I thought I’d post my 1st question…

…Basically, I live in the UK and I’m pretty new to pheromones…I recently placed an order for a straight-Androstenone product (UK made), no buffers, just pure -none with an evaporant…At the time I ordered my knowledge was extremely limited (still is of course), but since then I’ve stumbled upon this forum and read all the stickies…most advising to be careful with -none doses, and preferably, not to use it alone…Is it really that bad!?..My intended goal!? Well, I’m trying to win over the affections of a girl that is special to me, we’re good friends, but I want to take it further…Would using straight-none around this girl be a mistake!? Some say it can make women uncomfortable, and feel intimidated!?

If I can/should use it,- what would you recommend guys?

Cheers, Spanky. :slight_smile:

Hey dude yeah i wouldnt recommend straight -none with my experiences. Your still pretty young. And younger guys tend to not need as much pheromones as older people. I tend to OD on TUTH with 1-2 sprays which is mainly -none, and that has 2 steering mones to help it. Straight -none is really for experienced users that want to throw it into different mixes they want to try. But it cant hurt to try it and see what it does to a different girls before you try it on her i would think. Best of luck to ya dude and keep us posted

check this it should explain it alittle bit for ya
http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/noobed-up-complety-simplified-pheromone-explanation-37602.html

Not ‘bad’, Spanky. Androstenone is produced in abundance by males and particularly those under 35. It signals masculinity and women are attracted to that. The reports that you’ve been reading are most likely those advising men not to use it around that time of the month.

Women differ in their responses to the pheromone depending on their hormonal cycles. Ovulating? She’s all yours. On her period? Get out, lie low and batten down the hatches. Ride out the storm and re-emerge when the skies are blue and clear.

It’s situation-specific. Although you can use it as part of your everyday mix - good around older women - it is normally used to raise the heat and turn a friendly encounter into a heated one.

It may work in your situation. For best results, read the last paragraph again and time it right! :slight_smile:

Musk

it should be ok, just don’t put on alot of it, if you to are already good friends then the intimidation factor and all that jazz shouldn’t be to much of an issue cause you 2 are already close, but put on a VERY small amount of it and give it a shot! even if you ODed on her she’s not gonna hate you, if you Notice she’s getting nervious and creeped out, then make up a story about how horrible your day has been and how mad you are cause then she will understand and instead of being nervious and creeped out she’ll give you sympathy =) and the world will keep spinning as it should.

Honestly speaking from using a lot of TE and NPA myself if your trying to win over a girl you already particularly know don’t use the pure androstenone. It’ll create a uncomfortable sexual tension in her that usually won’t go that well in a regular social setting. If you already got her into a intimate situation and your alone with her and you have the none I’d say use it but otherwise if trying to enhance the way she sees you its ILL ADVISED to just use straight none for this situation.

If you still wanna try at least tell us what personality type this friend is and what is the exact concentration of none in the whole product and the amount of mL and whether its alcohol or oil based so that we can tailor our advice to you.

I wish you the best of luck my friend.

Androstenone by itself is a very blunt way of saying one of two things: I need a shower, or, I want to f*ck you.

If you use it, use it sparingly to start with and find out how YOU react to it before trying it around anyone else. More than 2 mcg straight 'none makes me rage. Not knowing that cost me a very high quality girlfriend when I first started experimenting with The Edge.

Also, if you want to “win over her affections”, none is not what you want. None is for winning over her eggs. If she’s at the right point in her cycle and is androstenone responsive. In other words… she will be more likely to have sex with you, at the right dose, but not stick around.

To win her over, you don’t want pheromones alone. You want you. You are the reason a woman ultimately stays or leaves. Pheromones can help… can get her attention… can influence her thinking… but they don’t do it for you. If you want something that will attract her in a more relational way, I suggest something like this:

4 sprays Instant Shine
3 sprays Instant Honesty
2 sprays Instant Openness
50-150 mcg Meo-Est
2 drops of A314
1 spray TUTH

Or you could get something similar with 2-3 sprays Ammunition, 3 sprays Instant Shine, 50+ mcg Meo-Est and 2 drops A314.

But you don’t tell us her age. If she’s 18 to 23, you’ll probably want to drop to 1-2 drops A314 and 1-2 sprays Ammo.

Listen to the Cat … he knows what he is talking about…

Wow, amazing responses guys, really appreciate all the info!! I’ve read through what everyone’s telling me, and the general idea I’m getting would be to…

  1. Use it sparingly!!
  2. Experiment to assess it’s effect on other girls before trying it with my love interest
  3. Time it right, and get the dosage right; i.e. Use very little in most daytime social environments, and maybe a little bit more at a club/in intimate environment.

…I’ve never used Pheromones before, and if my ‘social experiments’ go well, I’ll probably be investing in some of the blends you guys have been recommending very soon!!

Cheers y’all! :slight_smile:

So, Cat, you seem to be knowledgeable – what would you go with as a combo for flat out one night stand/bar-hopping ? I have had some great responses to the classic combo of Ammo + TUTH + IS + IH, but is there a more potent combo in your estimation, especially with some of the MX series or with TAL or TAF ? And I don’t typically look for the younger set of 18-23 at my age .

Thx in advance for your advice,

Mark

The Suave ONe

For Once night stands, I would recommend the following as your base:
1 Spray IJ
2 Sprays of TUTH
2 Drops of A314

With this combo you will get a lot of hits but you may be coming on too strong. You may need to buffer with social pheromones. This combo may be an overdoes for you too so just be aware of that.