Too Comfortable Mones - IFM, IBF - Instant Father Magic, Instant Brother Formula

Hi guys would like your opinions on this

Are there mones/mixes, coupled with a failure and inadequacy to escalate that might lead to a “fatherly” or “brotherly” projection and you fall forever out of the attraction box.

A high rone signal can create a fatherly vibe, it conveys maturity, and status, along with masculinity.
High socials can seem brotherly or “best friend” like.
However this is not the fault of the mones.
If you know how to flirt and escalate properly, and wear IG (which has NO None) you can build attraction and escalate to sex.
If you don’t have your game tight, IG can make you seem like a dad or older brother.
Same holds true for any socials like IO, IH or Shine.

Likewise however
If you know how to flirt and escalate properly, you can build attraction and close with Ammo, Jerk, or TuTH.
If you don’t and your game isn’t tight, you’ll either wind up with the girl disregarding the signature as “he’s not the type of guy he initially seems like” or you’ll just None OD and with no sexual energy to direct the none that way, you may just wind up being seen as a jerk and not in the good way.

A lot of people have said 297 is non sexual and you can’t escalate with it. I call bullshit. I’ve read reports of guys closing with IG and IO and other non None products and closing quite well. You have to escalate, I know it feels risky and sometimes it’s tough to know how fast to progress but unless you communicate through actions that you’re a masculine and sexual male who’s not afraid to go after what you want, you will be disregarded as a potential sexual partner and put into the friend zone.

In other words, yes, some mones can help put you in a box you don’t want to be in, but only if your actions are congruent with that box. If you act like a friend zone type of guy, some mones will enhance that vibe, some will just fail at changing that vibe.
If you act like an attractive guy, some mones will enhance the type of attraction you’re going for, while others will add a balance to it.

Rad, a none overdose makes you seem like a jerk. Elelabrate please, because I think that’s what happened to me in high school.

It’s not ALWAYS that simple. None OD can take various forms including Ghosting where people seem to ignore and avoid you, aggression, where it seems like no matter what you do people take it as you being a jerk, sometimes they can simply be a bit nervous. I don’t know how old you are but if you were wearing a heavy None product during your highschool years then yeah you probably could have experienced a None OD.

Well what do you think happened? I was. Some friends started ignoring me, and haven’t talked to me since. There was never a logical reason for it until now that you say it could have been caused by the none overdose. What do you think happened?

Here’s a better question, why were you wearing none when you’re in high school? You already produce enough of that stuff.

In short, there’s not enough data to see if that was the cause but it certainly could be the reason.

You’ve been a member of these forums longer than I have, how come you didn’t know about none overdose?

He’s right, you’re asking me to tell you if you had a none od when I don’t know what product you were wearing, how much you may have been wearing, the specifics of the environment you were wearing them in, what things you did or said and how they reacted etc.

You’re asking me to read your palm while you have your hands behind your back bro.

I’ll read your palm, its what I do LOL :wink:

I dont feel its mone related unless you have used those same mones all the time around them. Pheromones do not change your friends perspectives of you that quickly. They may affect their moods but they have preconceived notions so they wont instantly change the way they feel about you.

Most likely the behavior stems from something else. In high school kids will snub you for many stupid reasons they think at the time are important. Perhaps a girl they were interested in showed interest in you or you took the last tater tot in the lunch room or Dick told Jane you said he sucked at Halo 2. It could be a number of things that don’t make sense to you.

If you have been wearing high anone products (Tuth or IJ) to school or even high status ones like A314, then you could be giving off a vibe of superiority or aggression but if your not congruent with that vibe then your friends still should be able to deal with it.

Is there a chance your ODing, Yes your young so there is but guys generally react to a OD with aggression not with ghosting. Girls will ghost you.

Everything that occurs after wearing mones is not caused by the mones.

Tisha :wink: