Has anyone tried this stuff? Goes under the name “Tribex” by Biotest. It’s an herb that increases leutenizing hormones in your body which subsequently stimulates production of more testosterone.
Apparently the effects are subtle enough that your testosterone levels will remain in a ‘safe range’ (i.e. no ball shrinkage) but there is still an increase in testosterone levels.
Not too many side-effects because it is an herb and not synthetic.
Got into conversation with my friend about steroids and he told me how lots of people take steroids because it makes you more confident in an alpha way (aggressive, yet calm and you take things in stride). Immediately made me think of A314. I kept prodding him asking him if he knew of any products that were not steroids that had the same effect–trying to make a segue into pheromones.
He went and did some research, found this Tribex stuff, and told me about it.
I’m wondering what the effects of increased testosterone production will mean with respect to pheromones, does increased testosterone production correlate to increased -none production?
You can buy this herb in many male libido products and they probably won’t have the markup of something like “Tribex.” Do a goodle search on Tribulus Terrestris and you will find much cheaper prices.
tenant, the answer you are looking for is found in pasak bumi, or tongkat ali.
i make regular trips to sumatra to buy it in its original root form and pills so that i know what i am buying since most major brand name products offer dubious extracts and dangerous chinese pharmaceutical additives to make you think it is working.
british medical journals indicated up to 440% increase in testosterone levels and the kicker is, it makes your junk bigger, not smaller.
i’ve been using the stuff for years, won’t do without it. testosterone booster, libido booster, junk booster, hands down the best organic product i’ve ever tried and one of the only things i take on a daily basis.
I have done EXTENSIVE research on test boosters and steroids.
1st of all… anyone who takes synthetic testosterone to have a more “alpha male” appeal is a DUMBASS
2nd - testosterone is not a steroid. It’s still illegal but it is not a steroid.
3rd - test boosters will not increase your testosterone to anywhere near the levels of the real stuff… anyone can argue this with me and they WILL lose LOL…
with that said… you can find the same stuff cheaper elsewhere on the net. Tribulus terestris is also used by steroid users when they come off of a cycle to help bring back their natural testosterone production. It does have an effect but that effect PROBABLY wont be enough to make you feel it in a significant way. It also probably wont have enough of an effect to build mass… they really started marketing this stuff around 8 years ago when there was a BOOM in weightlifting. My buddy at the nutrition store told me he was selling out of it for a while but not to bother wasting my money if i was going to use it for muscle building.
How testosterone effects phero’s… i’m not sure. I havn’t done my research there haha…
hope this helped… feel free to PM me anytime for mroe info.
Been lifting for about 9 yrs now, have tried most of the products out there. Tribulus does give you an increase in testosterone, which is noticible at higher doses. Tribex is just a brand name of tribulus. Tribex was the brand that scientists used in there studies of its effects on test production afew yrs back, so its more expensive than other brands. Most of the other brands are just as good imho.
If your going to stay natural all the way, its not a bad place to start. Word of caution, some people start losing hair while taking it, myself included. So i no longer take that one. Not all people get that effect from it. My effective dosage range was about 2-3g per day divided into 3 doses.
Didnt really notice an increase in my size, but weights went up about 10% while taking it.
All the really good supps that worked the best were taken off the shelf about a year or so ago. I miss them
I understand what you are saying… but it all depends on what you are taking it for. How does it work for you… what do you notice. I am not disputing that it increases testosterone production. The highest levels in humans is 800 i think… tribulus wont get it over that. At best… tribulus will bring you to the higher side of normal range. All in all… it depends on what you are using it for. As a muscle builder… there are much better products out there… as stated before… most of the good products were taken off the market.
Trib… to raise test levels to above “average” levels… works. To raise it above physiological levels… no dice… period.
~Haz~
edit - This is why we have HRT (hormone replacement therapy) - if tribulus worked THAT well… men wouldn’t have to get testosterone gels or injections to bring up their levels. They’d just take 3g’s of trib everyday…
i’ve been working out regularly for probably over twenty years now, a typical day used to be waking up at 5am for 90 minutes of intense lifting followed by a construction job and then 3 hours of MMA at night including bjj, wrestling, judo and muay thai.
i had to eat well over 4,000 calories every day just to avoid losing weight.
i’ve tried the base ingredient for just about every product under the sun and from a completely natural perspective, absolutely nothing in the world works as well as pasak bumi, for me. granted i have pretty close regional proximity to the source so i don’t buy hokey pills from steroid forums and i take up to 3 grams per day, an amount that is well over and above what would be economical for the average american/european who spends 70 or 80 bucks on a month supply of “Longjack” that is really just a small amount of root powder mixed in with sketchy chinese pharmaceuticals like sildenafil and yohimbe to make you think it is working.
each of the guys i train with here in thailand have tried it thanks to me and they all swear by it now. it makes you feel like you have the energy level of a ten year old all over again. there are downsides however, at the level i take it at, aggression is sometimes evident especially if i drink the tea in the morning after a cup of coffee. also, at three grams per day i notice an increase in facial hair. libido is in full swing though, i literally cannot be stopped.
here is a link to the british journal of sports medicine regarding pasak bumi (eurycoma longifolia) BJSM – Sign In Page this stuff has been extensively tested at levels that would break your bank long before they become toxic and it’s been demonstrated effective many times over. one of the main reasons i take it and won’t take anything synthetic is that it encourages the body to increase testosterone production, it’s not injecting test and forcing your body to cope.
i get no down sides from this stuff , i take it regularly at levels much higher than the average person in part due to being right next to the source. i’ve found that taking one gram per day for 1 week followed by 1 day off then 2 grams for one week with three days off then 3 grams per day for a week with one week off gives me the best results. for me, those results can be summed up as a massive increase in energy, duration, focus, lean muscle mass, reduced recovery times after high intensity training, incrased fat loss, stoked libido and ability to use it.
I have been using tongkat ali or (pasak bumi) from sumatra in the powdered root form and package my own capsuls (800 mgs). It is rather expensive stuff to have shipped into the U.S. but I find that it works well for me. I find that it helps increase my libido and testosterone production and I think it helps slow the aging process. I don’t use it for weight lifting as I don’t lift however, from what I read— it takes alot more tongkat ali to increase muscle mass and I really don’t know too much about that end of the product use. I do a cycle of 5 days on and 3 days off and that seems to work for me. I also use Tribulus Terrestris not “tribex” but a cheaper form of the product and that also helps the libido. Another good product is Maca which is another one that helps increase testosterone levels. I’m not an expert but I’ve been using the stuff for about half a year and I’m satisfied with the results so far. BTW, I’m in my late 50’s and what works well for me might not work the same way for younger guys. I’m not sure about that.
I remember there being a big buzz about this a few years ago… I havn’t tried it myself but i can see how it would have helped you. Thats what this stuff is good for… better recovery - more intensity… prettymuch all the health benefits of having higher testosterone levels without going too high to cause negative side effects. You’re lucky you live close to the source… you’re also lucky because you live in the land of muay thai… im jealous LOL!
I took muay thai and BJJ for a while and then got into MMA… loved every bit of it - i just couldn’t afford to keep doing it once i bought my house.
I not only have used this product but sell it as well…I have tried biotest Tribex (blue pill version, which is stronger than gold) as well as NOW Tribulus caps. When I was testing out Tribex I was taking Goliath Labs Ejaculoid as well…I believe there is some crossover with the ingrediants. Basic effect is that you become a slave to your sexual urges and they must be filled taking away the thought of much else. Tribuls is not a substitute for steriods. Another product that you could consider is ZMA.
Ok, so I guess the gist is you can’t really take these ‘test boosters’ for the same purpose as using pheromones? They are there more to supplement a workout routine?
And don’t get caught up on the brand Tribex. That’s just the name Ken–my friend–referenced to me. I’m weary of any supplements aside from vitamin supplements anyway. I took Xenadrine when I used to routinely do cardio and free weights and I got all sorts of bad headaches from it.
If i understand the wholesale price structure; 100 bottles of 100 capsules/ 400mg of 50:1 extract with bottleing and 10 way split shipping would be $2025 USD or $20.25/bottle.
i weigh in a a measly but muscular 160 pounds at 5ft 11in. in spite of that , the blonde hair and blue eyes never fails lol.
ya that shit is expensive. i take the ferry from penang to medan and buy in bulk. last time i went i bought 10,000 capsules. each of my friends here keeps my phone buzzing with sms messages awaiting my return.
on a side note, i’ve found pasak bumi very effective for helping with mild to not quite serious hang overs. i’m one of those people that just can’t sleep during the day, no matter what time i come home (or how buzzed i am when i get home) from the clubs. i’m still up at 6:30 or 7. it’s a real drag. 2 grams plus some tylenol helps keep me going until 1 or 2 in the afternoon when i can finally get some sleep.
oh, and after taking a week off of 3 grams i start all over again with 1. there are times however when i know i will be taking 2 or 3 ladies home that night so i will take more in the afternoon accordingly.
Get my point?