Robert Greene is the author of “The Art of Seduction”, “The 33 Strategies of War” and “The 48 Laws of Power”.
http://www.powerseductionandwar.com/archives/the_robert_gree.phtml
Greene’s new blog is at
www.powerseductionandwar.com
His stuff is much more strategic and cerebral than most other writers in this area.
WOW. I love that name, “Power, Seduction, and War.”
Those three words encapsulate everything the XY brain is wired to think is “
TOTALLY AWESOME! ”
I can’t recommend his work (books) highly enough. Both Tucker Max and Neil Strauss/Style (each pickup artists in their own very different ways) are fans. The stuff on war is as much about non domain-specific strategy as anything else. It’s pretty powerful and insightful stuff.
Sample blog puzzle on seduction -
Seduction Scenario #1 - July 27, 2006
There’s this girl who lives in your area, and whom you have noticed over the past several months. You have never spoken with her, just seen her in passing on a few occasions. She is very beautiful, in a way that gets to you and makes you think of her days later. She tends to downplay her beauty by the way she dresses, but most men would see her as very fetching. You have seen her a couple of times at the supermarket, walking her dog, etc. She has no idea of your existence. One time you saw her with a man; he had her arm around her, but she did not really seem all that thrilled by him. She seems more into her dog.
One humid day, she was walking her dog, and she happened to wear a very normal dress, but for some reason it doubled your interest in her. Then, inadvertently, through a friend of a friend, you heard of someone who knew her. You were able to get a little more information. She works for a film company. She has a boyfriend, but word is that she is bored, restless, not that into him. It’s true, she always has a look of boredom. She moved to your city somewhat recently, within two years. This is all you have to go by. O, except one day you saw her in her car. A very non-descript car, with a “War is not the answer” bumpersticker.
Do you have any compunctions about trying to seduce her? Does seducing her violate your code of ethics? Explain these ethics, then. If not, how would you approach this seduction? What would be your first maneuvers? What is your battle plan? You don’t want a one-night stand, but you are not necessarily looking for a lifetime partner. What do you say?
I’ve had his book “The Art of Seduction” for 1-2 years. The methods outlined does work very well, I’ve had a lot of fun till the middle stages, didn’t finish & score (it was a colleague). Most crucial is the profiling & selection of targets, and patience.
Anyone have his new book “The 33 Strategies of War”? How is it like? Thanks.
i2w
That one I am still reading and digesting - it’s a little bit deeper than learning “Who Lies More?” 
But thought-provoking and consistent with what I have stumbled upon by trial end error and dumb luck.
Strategies of war is also pretty good IMO (lots of insights and a fun read - I would say even more so than Art of Seduction). His approach of illustrating general principles and patterns with concrete stories is very helpful in allowing one to understand how they can be practically applied.
You can get an idea of the style from his blog where he deals with current conflicts, for example.
Are you interested in other “non-conventional” seduction techniques (mind & energy)? Might sound impossible but it works, requires a lot more effort though.
Yes, very curious to learn more. I’m no new ager, but it seems to me that there is clearly something going on with bio-energetic fields. (And who knows what else…)
the new yorker profile is here - hip hop’s machiavelli
http://www.powerseductionandwar.com/images/fresh_prince.pdf
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Speaking of Machiavelli, here’s an amusing passage from the New Yorker’s profile (not online) of Robert Greene:
Greene is not a libertine. Drawing upon a list of the nine seducer types in his book (the Coquette, the Charmer, the Dandy, the Natural, etc.), he is, as he told me, “a reformed Rake.” (Reformed rakes live in a constant danger or recidivism.) He lives with his girlfriend, Anna Biller, a filmaker and old-Hollywood fetishist, on whom he practiced some of the tactics suggested in “The Art of Seduction.” Having seen her around Santa Monica, he got himself invited to a party at her house, where he slipped away to study her record collection. Afterward, he invited her to a Dubussy opera that he knew would appeal to her. Still, the victim resisted. So he asked her to his thirty-seventh birthday party. He also invited seven other attractive women, friends who, at his bidding, did little to dispel the impression that they might be sleeping with him. It worked. He and Biller have been together for ten years.
A move straight out of gc’s playbook?
(read the comments)
below is from GC
So how much did the “canned conversational macro” stuff taught in The Game and the like actually help you?
A LOT. To quantify – before, my rate was about 2-3 women per year on average, w/ looks in the 7 range (I don’t hit on women that I think are less than 6.5). I got into this stuff late last year and implemented it in a big way from January to August. In 8 months I slept with 10 women w/ avg ratings of maybe 7-8, which is roughly a 5 fold increase.
The Game, by the way, is not the book that helped that much. The Game is to seduction as, say, Michio Kaku’s Hyperspace is to physics. It is a popularization, not a technical manual. Erik von Markovik’s book, though, the Mystery Method book is the real deal.
Erik von Markovik is a modern day Michael Faraday.
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Mic…Michael_Faraday
Some historians of science refer to him as the best experimentalist in the history of science. It was largely due to his efforts that electricity became viable for use in technology.
Despite his excellence as an experimentalist, his mathematical ability did not extend so far as trigonometry or any but the simplest algebra. However, his experimental work was consolidated by the able James Clerk Maxwell, who developed his equations which lie at the base of all modern theories of electromagnetic phenomena. Faraday, nevertheless, possessed the gift of the ability to present his ideas in clear and simple language.
I don’t say that lightly. Markovik is a fucking genius, a scientist of the first rank, someone who has the acuity to recognize and abstract patterns in the world that are the raw material for science. Everyone saw balls rolling down planes, but only Galileo figured out that F=ma rather than F=mv, because he systematically varied the parameters and abstracted the important concepts:
http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/ stud…ined_plane.html
The only way to really gain information about the world is through repeated experiment, and von Markovik’s career as a magician allowed him to observe the social dynamics of thousands of groups from a special perspective. There are very few jobs that allow you to go up to dozens of groups of people with a built-in conversation starter that allows you to relate to them as an equal. As Markovik wasn’t serving them something or trying to sell them something, boom, he could frequently establish rapport while nevertheless having the fallback of professional distance in case rapport was not established. Moreover, he had the perception to catalog and organize what he was seeing around him.
The guy has done more for sociology than a decade of useless Harvard professors. What he has done is nothing less than lay the foundation for a true quantitative sociology, the statistical analysis of human social dynamics.
(Btw, the only thing I can think of which is similar to being a club magician in allowing you to initiate encounters with a fallback excuse is dog-walking; plenty of single guys are notorious for walking dogs in Central Park as conversation starters.)
gc
One more point – I did work for this. The thing about seduction, though, is that it guarantees that if you work you will get what you want. For someone of my disposition that is huge. Seduction does to social interactions what generating functions do for number theory – by a process of abstraction they transform problems which previously required inspiration into problems that admit a systematic approach. Von Markovik has turned the art of flirtation with its thousand ineffable variables and million apparently contradictory data points into the science of seduction.
To demonstrate the science, the ultimate would be a quantitative demonstration of increased success rate. But it’s not clear what the appropriate denominator is (i.e. # of successes can be divided by money, time, or number of attempts). There’s no question that I had many more attempts this year, but I had very similar time and money expenditures.
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