Hi pherotalk’s people, this is your buddy Yasserthekid1 bringing you some bad news about pheros and looking out for my forum’s people so that you guys don’t get this type of anti-reaction that I got a few weeks ago… hope you like the story.. it goes kindda like this…
So I decided to stay over at my college’s apartments this one weekend, just to visit a few friends and chill around over there and have a good time (cuz sometimes there are crazy parties going on )… So anyways, I prepared myself with a drop of Turn Up The Heat and two sprays of Instant Gentleman to each side of my neck and another spray of each to one of my wrists, and rubbed it against the other one… then, that night,
I had a few girls telling me flirty compliments about my nice smell and other girls looking at me in a very flirty way… but then I was with my buddies smoking a cigarrette and then we went to this girl’s apartment who I had met a few other times before. We were chatting and talking and there was like 8 people in that room and we didn’t drink or anything… we were just talking about bunch of stuff and then I noticed that this two girls living in that apartment did not feel that comfortable around me… so I approached one of them (the one that I thought was my friend) and putting my arm close to her hip I asked her: why the worried face?.. and she said: nothing just tired, and she moved away from me.
Then I did not get close to her no more because I knew something was wrong with her, but I did not have a clue it would be the pheros. I came to that conclusion when the next Monday I received a call from the Dean of Students at my college to talk to me about an issue. Turns out that the bitch called her (yeah, the BITCH! lol) and told the Dean that I had hugged her in a very possessive and sexual way as if I’m trying to take her shirt off… seriously, GET THE FORK OUT!.. I told the Dean, first of all, I am a very popular guy, good looking, with a super hot girlfriend and without any bad records… do you actually THINK I’m gonna be doing this to a girl I just met?? Specially in front of my buddies… seriously…
So the bitch to the Dean that she wanted me to stay away from her or she was gonna press worse issues on me.. I was astonished and I had to do this online test about sexual harassment… I was pissed off at first cuz it’s just a waste of time and stress.. but after that I was just laughing and telling my friends: watch out, I’m a sexual harasser lol …
So yeah buddies, if you don’t wanna be in a position like mine, keep your TUTH and IG dosis low. That’s all for the moment.. I’m gonna try to write more often.. haven’t been able to post threads since I have dial up connection … but yeah, take care guys and enjoy pheros =D.. till next thread
oops! And we were just discussing IG/TUTH combos in this thread:
It seems to me that 99.99% of girls would not feel threatened in this way, but you cannot win them all I guess. I’m sure you are a good calibrator of other people’s moods and body language, but yeah, you never know when people will have issues. Bad luck there.
I have, without pheros, not been accused of sexual harassment, but made some women feel uncomfortable who obviously had a problem with some other man in the past ,and projected whatever that was onto me. Now the only mistake I made was trying too hard to convince them that I was actually alright, and not the sort of guy they thought, when I should have just left them alone from then on. But human nature is such that, if you think that someone has got a badly wrong idea about you, you want to correct it for them. Some people are very caught up in a set of thought-processes from the past or something, and there is not a lot one can do to change that.
yeah dude, I never thought Instant Gentleman would fail me like that… All the pheros have worked fantastic… but as you said, it was just bad luck and I guess you can’t win them all…
Yeah… that is quite a bit of -none. Well, -none is one of the main pheromones, so people grow up with it, the smell of the locker room, gym or whatever, the archetypal smell of aggressive masculinity. So people can have all sorts of psychological associations set up from growing up alongside -none. Usually people grow up more or less with the idea that men, and by extension the male pheromone -none, are by and large OK and the vast majority know how to behave - or we misbehave in very specific and culturally-sanctioned social contexts …but then again, it might only take one bad experience in someone’s formative years to associate men and -none with overbearing aggression and pushiness.
Keep in mind that Bosshank is in his mid-forties, so he can handle that spray of TUTH in his mix. At your age, leaving the TUTH out might still be the equivalent mix because you naturally produce more -none.
I don’t think Instant Gentleman failed you so much as TUTH works a little too well with your natural mones.
WOW yasserthekid1 sorry to hear about your bad experience with this combo. It actually reminds me of a situation I had a month ago with this same combo. I actually only had 2.5 mg of TUTH on with 3 sprays on Intsant Gentlemen. I was in Alabama performing for a show, after the show a woman who was one of the promoters wanted to take me around town and hang out a little bit before I had to fly out early that morning.
Well all was going at first but then I noticed that she started getting distant. I immediately assumed she was having a reaction to the none. I told her I was going to turn in but she insisted I stay. I did stay but she was really distant and nervous around me. I again told her I was going to turn in for the night. She came up to me gave me a hug and then commented that I smelled good. I asked her did she want to smell me some more in a joking way . She then got really mad and said to not ever speak to her again . Well I left promptly and washed the pheros off.
I usually get great hits with this mix but this was the first I ever got the creepy dude experience.
Did you just hug her or did you pull on her shirt or anything? Did she protest?
Because I did not realise one normal hug could be understood as sexual harassment. I thought that was when someone repeatedly says or does sexual things even if you told him to stop.
Well in my particular case I honestly gave her just a hug. I didn’t do anything that I can see to be intrusive or disrespectful. I only made the comment did she want to smell the cologne again. I was going to go into a whole story of how my friend works for a cologne company ect. but she got pretty upset. The funny thing is that she initiated the hug, I didn’t. I was told by some of the people she worked with that she was funny anyway and to not really associate with her. This was after the fact though. I guess she has some issues when it comes to men. I’m fine with that, I just wish I would’ve known so I could’ve been more cautious and not have worn none around her.
Your right about the physical contact and people who exhibit discomfort. The funny thing is in my situation i didn’t initiate the contact. Also this is the first time ever I have experienced anything of that nature. I have worn TUTH with great success. I guess you always run into that curve ball somewhere in life but it is good because it helps you grow and you know what to look out for the next go round…or can see a situation coming before it even becomes one.
I work for a major university system and had to endure many Sexual Harassment seminars. Personality I think it’s 90% BS because of a few assholes whom never learned to when to stop or what’s appropriate. Nevertheless, our university defined Sexual Harassment simply as anything the victim claims made them uncomfortable or threatened in the campus environment. So anything from farts to non-PC class discussions to men looking at women as they walk by to ball scratching qualifies as “hostile environment,” AKA Sexual Harassment. I had a complain lodged against me for “hostile environment” due to a friggen poster of Sheila E playing percussion in the band room! Things were uncomfortable in the late 90s but I don’t hear much about this issue anymore.
Now if the OP’s story is accurate, obviously she overreacted. But I’m sure there’s more to this situation than he’s letting on and/or understands. What was the conversation about? Politics? Sex? Race? [or other hot button topics] Was the OP acting cocky, loud, overbearing and basically wearing out his welcome? After all, it was the vic’s home and a guest should be mindful of the host’s beliefs and sensitivities. I’ve seen similar problems many times in student group projects and usually the guy is clueless he’s offensive or acting like an ass. Sometimes it’s an innocent cultural clash of values. However, the OP knew damn well she was uncomfortable or unset and yet violated her personal space. And, judging from his large ego and attitude, he didn’t take the situation seriously, hence the dean’s threat of further action.
I seriously doubt mones can be blamed one iota for this situation. It was the OP’s behavior and lack of perception coupled with an ultra sensitive or easily threaten woman.
first - a lot of colleges take any form of sexual harassment or misconduct seriously. At least they take harassment and sexual misconduct by guys seriously to the point they consider you guilty upon accusation and you have to prove you are innocent as opposed to someone actually having to prove/demonstrate you did something. Just check the news carefully and you will see this happens more than most people are aware … so you guys in college need to take the accusation seriously … Gegogi alludes to this in his comments.
Second - you hit it - the Instant Gentleman was fine but the 'none was too high. You probably only needed half of that at most.
Third - when you know - when you can tell your 'none doses are making women nervous - smile, be friendly, avoid jokes or anything that can be taken as innuendo - but keep your distance. If you look in my post that was mentioned I kept my distance from the one lady who seemed put off by the 'none - about 6 feet to be safe. All I would do is smile, nod hello, say hello, how are you, having fun? - that kinda thing. It will not take much as you have seen for something to happen - your actions or words - for them to misinterpret. Or to make a boyfriend get aggressive. I know there was no boyfriend in this case but it is worth the mention. Trust me on this. Please.
The final thing to consider is that a lot of the more experienced users trend away from 'none - they kinda cut down on the 'none and often use other products - P93, etc. - to get the same effect but without the downside of the 'none - hostile guys and nervous women. If you look at some of the mixes - say Steve’s 1a and 1b mix - you will see this. The 1a mix has 'none but it is very well buffered.
Exactly - the Instant Gentleman was fine but go much lower on the none.
I go back to my earlier comment - keep your distance - I know she initiated the hug - but carefully choose your words and avoid jokes or anything that can be taken as innuendo. Keep it very friendly and non-sexual.
Exactly - you never know what could be going on - wrong time of the month for 'none, past issues with men - and as Gegogi pointed out - sometimes we guys are not as sensitive or aware of things as we should be - so when you sense they are getting uncomfortable around the none - just be friendly and cautious with your words with them …
Gegogi has been at this a while. He works at a university and sees you young folks in action all the time. And believe it or not we old folks actually do catch on to what is going on around us every now and then so please mark his words carefully … OP may or may not have done something but Gegogi is right - we guys tend to be a little brash and often not as aware of the situation around us as we should. I know I was more perceptive than most of my peers but looking back I realized I often missed the equivalent of freight trains rumbling by …
But again - when the ladies get uncomfortable because of the 'none - get outside that 6 foot personal space cone and stay friendly.
bringing you some bad news about pheros and looking out for my forum’s people so that you guys don’t get this type of anti-reaction that I got a few weeks ago… hope you like the story.. it goes kindda like this…
)… So anyways, I prepared myself with a drop of Turn Up The Heat and two sprays of Instant Gentleman to each side of my neck and another spray of each to one of my wrists, and rubbed it against the other one… then, that night,
lol) and told the Dean that I had hugged her in a very possessive and sexual way as if I’m trying to take her shirt off… 
seriously, GET THE FORK OUT!
.. I told the Dean, first of all, I am a very popular guy, good looking, with a super hot girlfriend and without any bad records… do you actually THINK I’m gonna be doing this to a girl I just met?? Specially in front of my buddies… seriously…
… but yeah, take care guys and enjoy pheros =D.. till next thread