turn up the heat..how can I use it?

I wore A314 this morning with instant G

then in the afternoon I applied some Instant Honesty and 1 shot of AMMO

then after more than 16 hours from first application I wore A314 two drops + 1 shot of AMMO + some shine and one drop of TAA oil ( at 10 pm)

at (12:30 am ) I added 2 drops of TAA oil, and some Instant Shine, instant openness on my arms, and 1 shot of turn up the heat to my neck

I went to the club, nothing fascinating.. I got blown out of one big set actually..even though one of the girls opened me, she told me she saw me at a restaurant where she works, then her friends interrupt and I get blown out, her friend was kinda weirded out when I went to them first..

whenever I open it opens, but still I feel that little vibe from the girls that they don’t wanna talk much with me.. one girl looked at me that look (the excited sexual one) for half a second and then turned around..she was with a mixed set (guys and girls) and I’m not so good at handling those by myself..so I didn’t bother open..

I got opened by an asian girl on a dance floor, she touched my hair..then in the presence of her friends and the three guys who popped out of no where to talk to me, she was gone..

indian girls, who i know opened me..it was normal, but i wasn’t paying them attention as I was busy trying to find a friend

some chick opened me, she told me she seated me at a table in that restaurant (same restaurant above), i remembered her then but she didn’t talk much, she kept walking

hair stylist whom spent 2 hours combing my hair saw me and gave me a big hug with those beautiful breasts (but that’s normal, she’d do that with or without the mix)

strangers weren’t opening me though.. no visible attention from girls

how the hell am I supposed to use this turn up the heat? Ammo works wonders.. I have 2 bottles of turn up the heat for nothing :stuck_out_tongue:

I am confused. What do you mean when you say someone “opened” you. Which part of you did they “open”.

@shosayn: as in “open up a conversation” lol
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well, i try to build up trust and intimacy with the socials, flirting, light touches, jokes, hugs.. ("heeeey, haven’t seen ya in a while.. hug, insert naughty joke here ) anything involves touching.. and if they are surprised by it, i tell them that’s just how i am. they enjoy it, and i make sure not to send a “gay” vibe with many touches, and doing nothing lol.
when i get 1 on 1 with a girl (a coffee,date, etc) that’s when i think 1-2 sprays Turn Up The Heat could work charms. they’ll get turned on sexually..but before that you must turn them on.. mentally :slight_smile:.

just make sure not to turn them off by attitude.. play it cool and create tension, anticipation, and always move to the next step.. or else they will think of you as “not interested / coward” and the vibe will wear off and die.. shortly.

Saifz-

Bottom line answer to your question is save the TUTH for when you are going to close the set - young lady is with you and you are on the way to ypur place or hers.

And since I am seldom a man of few words let me analyze this a little more for you …

The next thing to consider when using Ammo or TUTH is that at your age you are producing a lot of none. When you threw on one spray of TUTH over the one spray of ammo from two hours earlier - you may have been close to an OD althoguh you did have a lot of socials on to buffer it all. Friend may have been weirding out and why you got the excited look from the other but she turned away - the 'none was too much for them. Read further down for an explanation as to why.

What you have to remember is the difference in signals being sent between Ammo and TUTH. Same amount of 'none in both regular versions but in Ammo it is buffered by two other pheromones. Ammo says “I am interested”. TUTH says “I want to do you now.” The TUTH route is seldom the best opening gambit. As Tisha says you are likely to be unconsciously labeled a horn dog based on this signal rather than your actions and end up with 0 chance with said young lady.

You were also wearing a lot of socials - that is a good thing. It buffered the 'none and is often a more effective way to get a young lady’s attention. Read the married guys thread in my signature block - it explains why. Good use of 'nols, plus your great personality being projected, plus good social presentation (clothes/grooming) go a long way towards explaining the girls opening you.

Onthe down side you are burning through a lot of product using A314 and Instant Gentleman together and I am not sure you are getting max benefit from them. Read the A314 Vs. Instant gentleman thread in my signature block. I would not really wear the two of them together - you will read why. I would use your IH, IO or Instant shine to buffer the A314 instead. Think about alternating A314 and Instant Gent. for day use every couple of weeks … again you will read why.

For the evening certainly throw Ammo on over the A314 you wore at work. Tishas says from a woman’s perspective it sends out a very masculine signal. Certainly use Instant shine, IH or IO with that though remember Ammo does use 'nols to buffer the none in it.

If you do some research into older posts here you will find there was quite a bit of discussion about social factors as to why older women (say 30 and above) tend to react more favorably to highter 'none signatures than younger ones. But the main line of thinking was that most women 30 and above have had a lot more social and positive sexual experience, they are much more at ease with their sexuality, they now know what they like, and they now feel “empowered” and are at ease with being more aggressive about getting what they want.

Then add back in what the ladies said about the power of the social products in the threads in my signature block … and you understand the usual recommendation of Ammo with socials for evening wear and TUTh for when you are closing the deal.

makes sense now..

does AMMO say I’m interested and thus brings out the potential of interest in the other person? Some mind control pick up dude talks about how our thoughts affect those around us, if you feel horny around someone they will feel horny too.. so is that how ammo works? the arousing effect is from something that communicates interest, not generate it?

Is 6 sprays of Instant Openness too much though? I don’t know, I come to think of it now..the girls were talking TOO MUCH, asking me a lot of questions about me..its not like we were having a meaningless conversation that is fun and gigglish (which is what I’d want at a bar). they were showing heavy IOIs, and they were asking ALOT of questions about me,where I’m from, and this and that..they were reactive to my responses positively and laughing and so on..however I got a flaky number from my target as she didn’t reply to my text messages..she told me later on on facebook she doesn’t think of any kind of relationships right now (that’s the concious mind talking, when I was there she was all over me!..I know, I shouldn’t expect pheromones to make people fall in love and not stop thinking about you after you leave, that’s my job to improve my game there)..and the girl who was sitting next to me, talking ALOT more than my target and showing MORE interest, when I looked at her facebook = she has a boyfriend. It’s a good thing that my mix (the one you know of in my journal) makes girls put down gaurds and not even bring up their relationships..one other girl SUPPER hottie..i talked to her and she just wouldn’t stop talking to me..some dude interrupts “Wassap playa!” I shake his hands “hey man, doin good” turn to her and ignore him..he leaves us, I realize later from facebook that he’s her boyfriend, i got her number..and before I got it she was talking to me while one of her guy friends kept asking her to come with them like 3 times, and then she told me they’re gonna leave her if she doesn’t go..

all that is cool, but I’m thinking maybe I’d use less instant openness, just to get more realistic game where I have to PUT EFFORT..because I’m not looking for “instant magic or results”.. I want to build a lifestyle and strong GAME..the biggest thing that builds your game and character is failure and rejection, it makes you stronger.. its fun to have a shield against that for a lil while and have fun, explore and try things you thought you couldn’t do..or you didn’t have the balls to, that way you grow as well..but I gotta find a balance..