TUTH Double Strength

[CMBC]

Hey guys.
I placed my first order and got it yesterday. I ordered a To-Go bottle of everything (except IG because it’s out of stock).

I got 2 problems:

1. They upgraded my To-Go IO Double Strength to the full size. I looked at the bottom to determine if its 1X or 2X strength, but the label just happens to be placed so that the number indicator is cut off. I can see an X, and part of a number that cannot be determined if it’s 1 or 2. Does anybody know if their automatic upgrade free gift would keep the product at the same strength? Would it be double strength because my To-Go was double strength? Or would they just put it at 1X seeing as they are upgrading me to the full size for free? It’s not too much of a big deal, I’d just like to know what strength it is so I don’t douse myself thinking it’s 1X and smell like a cologne salesman.

2. Here is the bigger of the problems. I ordered all the social mones at double strength, but I left AMMO and TUTH at regular strength, as recommended. However, they sent me TUTH double strength. I am 27. I understand this is not something people under a certain age (I believe 30 was the magic age) should be using else you’ll end up potentially with an OD. However, I also see many of the guides suggesting using multiple sprays of AMMO or TUTH when using it. Therefore, wouldn’t double strength at just 1 spray, perhaps 2, be more economically efficient? Or is 1 spray of either AMMO or TUTH regular strength considered the standard?

Thanks for anyone who can give me solid answers here.

[mobocaster]

Yes, double strength TUTH and Ammo is primarilly an economy measure.

And at 27, I would feel fairly safe in assuming you will need to be using more than one spray of the 1x product, so yes, just use an appropriate amount of the 2x.

For the IO, I have a bottle of 2x, Version 1.01 here and its batch no is #213, of 11/29/10 if that is any help?

[CMBC]

Okay. Then perhaps I should also aim to use AMMO 2X for my next order (assuming I determine this stuff works then)? I mean I do want to use the least amount of sprays as possible as I will be spraying different mones all over so I don’t want to be a walking cologne factory.

And yeah my IO says Version 1.0a, Batch: ZE01721K. Bottled 11/6/22.
So it looks like they have a different version for some reason. Mine has the letter a at the end of it. Not sure if they changed the formula since you got yours.

I e-mailed customer service with that info previously but they couldn’t make anything of it.

[thegentleman]

Try contacting them via a support ticket or 1-800 number. I think it would help you to obtain the correct information which is what you seek.

[RADMAN513]

@CMBC

Hey guys.
I placed my first order and got it yesterday. I ordered a To-Go bottle of everything (except IG because it’s out of stock).

I got 2 problems:

1. They upgraded my To-Go IO Double Strength to the full size. I looked at the bottom to determine if its 1X or 2X strength, but the label just happens to be placed so that the number indicator is cut off. I can see an X, and part of a number that cannot be determined if it’s 1 or 2. Does anybody know if their automatic upgrade free gift would keep the product at the same strength? Would it be double strength because my To-Go was double strength? Or would they just put it at 1X seeing as they are upgrading me to the full size for free? It’s not too much of a big deal, I’d just like to know what strength it is so I don’t douse myself thinking it’s 1X and smell like a cologne salesman.

2. Here is the bigger of the problems. I ordered all the social mones at double strength, but I left AMMO and TUTH at regular strength, as recommended. However, they sent me TUTH double strength. I am 27. I understand this is not something people under a certain age (I believe 30 was the magic age) should be using else you’ll end up potentially with an OD. However, I also see many of the guides suggesting using multiple sprays of AMMO or TUTH when using it. Therefore, wouldn’t double strength at just 1 spray, perhaps 2, be more economically efficient? Or is 1 spray of either AMMO or TUTH regular strength considered the standard?

Thanks for anyone who can give me solid answers here.

It’s ok to use None products, you just need to use your head.
At your age a spray or two of Ammo should actually be pretty good, at double strength it’s a little risky to go over a single spray, but it’s reasonably well buffered so if you do hit your OD level, it’s probably not that hard and a spray of IO or Shine can help tame it.
TuTH is a bit trickier, you can use it, it’s just not appropriate for all situations. TuTH is a sexual escalator.
Say you meet a girl and swap numbers, you go on two dates with some makeouts but nothing major. For date number three a single spray of TuTH can help communicate that this is the time.

As for the rest of your order…not to sound like a jerk but was there any info on the shipping invoice?

[CMBC]

@RADMAN513

It’s ok to use None products, you just need to use your head.
At your age a spray or two of Ammo should actually be pretty good, at double strength it’s a little risky to go over a single spray, but it’s reasonably well buffered so if you do hit your OD level, it’s probably not that hard and a spray of IO or Shine can help tame it.
TuTH is a bit trickier, you can use it, it’s just not appropriate for all situations. TuTH is a sexual escalator.
Say you meet a girl and swap numbers, you go on two dates with some makeouts but nothing major. For date number three a single spray of TuTH can help communicate that this is the time.

As for the rest of your order…not to sound like a jerk but was there any info on the shipping invoice?

The shipping invoice stays the same as my original order. The shipper hand writes (in pen) that they upgraded an item for free as the free gift, and then circled the IO Double Strength To-Go to indicate that this is what they upgraded. So no, it does not tell me.

I’m leaning toward it being double strength. The ONLY part of the number visible is the bottom line of either the 1 or the 2. Because the line comes almost all the way to reach the X such as 2X, I’m leaning toward it being double strength. As opposed to 1X where the bottom line does not come across as far as the bottom line on the 2 does.

It may be nit picking, but I just like to know exactly what I’m dealing with so that I don’t go over/under where I should be. Also for experimentation purposes. But like I said, it looks like it’s probably a 2X.

And yes, I’m familiar with how AMMO and TUTH are different and where they should be used. As said before, because I am spraying myself with many other social mones and such, I want to try to use stronger dosages with less amount of actual sprays. Not only to be economical, but so that I’m not a walking cologne bottle. I suppose 1 spray of double strength TUTH with no AMMO applied should be completely okay. I would only use TUTH when I have already established comfort and see it progressing, while using AMMO for all situations prior to that point. Taking this logic though, perhaps I should also get the double strength AMMO and stick to 1 spray as well. Again, less sprays and economic purposes. I assume that using the reg strength AMMO and TUTH that you would most likely be applying 2 sprays minimum anyway in the first place.

I don’t see a situation where AMMO and TUTH should be combined at once though. IS there such a situation? I’ve read in a guide where someone DID promote doing so. Perhaps in a club environment only?

[RADMAN513]

@CMBC

The shipping invoice stays the same as my original order. The shipper hand writes (in pen) that they upgraded an item for free as the free gift, and then circled the IO Double Strength To-Go to indicate that this is what they upgraded. So no, it does not tell me.

I’m leaning toward it being double strength. The ONLY part of the number visible is the bottom line of either the 1 or the 2. Because the line comes almost all the way to reach the X such as 2X, I’m leaning toward it being double strength. As opposed to 1X where the bottom line does not come across as far as the bottom line on the 2 does.

It may be nit picking, but I just like to know exactly what I’m dealing with so that I don’t go over/under where I should be. Also for experimentation purposes. But like I said, it looks like it’s probably a 2X.

And yes, I’m familiar with how AMMO and TUTH are different and where they should be used. As said before, because I am spraying myself with many other social mones and such, I want to try to use stronger dosages with less amount of actual sprays. Not only to be economical, but so that I’m not a walking cologne bottle. I suppose 1 spray of double strength TUTH with no AMMO applied should be completely okay. I would only use TUTH when I have already established comfort and see it progressing, while using AMMO for all situations prior to that point. Taking this logic though, perhaps I should also get the double strength AMMO and stick to 1 spray as well. Again, less sprays and economic purposes. I assume that using the reg strength AMMO and TUTH that you would most likely be applying 2 sprays minimum anyway in the first place.

I don’t see a situation where AMMO and TUTH should be combined at once though. IS there such a situation? I’ve read in a guide where someone DID promote doing so. Perhaps in a club environment only?

Actually if you’re looking to minimize the conscious smell, Ammo would be the first product to get in double strength as it’s in cologne strength to begin with 20% cover scent.

The other products are only 6% scent strength iirc so it harder to become “too much cologne guy” on those.
I can smell Ammo for quite a while after applying, but with the other 6% neroli products I can smell them pretty strong for about 10-15 minutes and then it dies down and is pretty subtle. If your products are smelling strong for a long period of time it may have to do with the condition of your skin.
Very dry skin will have a strong cologne scent, but it doesn’t last very long. Oily skin tends to hold the scent longer, but it’s milder as the scent molecules waft off at a slower rate.
If you apply some moisturizers after your shower and before applying mones/cologne you may find the scent to be less obtrusive but longer lasting.

TuTH and Ammo can be combined imo but with at least one other product imo. And, in those cases I personally would only use 1 spray of regular strength TuTH.
Examples…for a party/club scene, 1 spray IO, 2 sprays of Heavy Ammo and a single spray of TuTH. This would give a high dose of fun social Alpha Nol, a moderate dose of None, but with a little extra sexual direction and a comparatively small dose of status enhancing Rone.

On the flip side you might go with 2 drops of A314, a single spray each of Ammo and TuTH. This would give a very strong status vibe, again with a moderate but noticable sexuality, and just a hint of Alpha Nol social appeal to take the edge off.

Heavy Ammo and TuTH2X alone would be a very strong None vibe and a blatantly sexual one at that. The Rone status and Nol socials are there but considering that people can still OD on Ammo alone I doubt it would be enough. Just my opinion.

[CMBC]

@RADMAN513

Actually if you’re looking to minimize the conscious smell, Ammo would be the first product to get in double strength as it’s in cologne strength to begin with 20% cover scent.

The other products are only 6% scent strength iirc so it harder to become “too much cologne guy” on those.
I can smell Ammo for quite a while after applying, but with the other 6% neroli products I can smell them pretty strong for about 10-15 minutes and then it dies down and is pretty subtle. If your products are smelling strong for a long period of time it may have to do with the condition of your skin.
Very dry skin will have a strong cologne scent, but it doesn’t last very long. Oily skin tends to hold the scent longer, but it’s milder as the scent molecules waft off at a slower rate.
If you apply some moisturizers after your shower and before applying mones/cologne you may find the scent to be less obtrusive but longer lasting.

TuTH and Ammo can be combined imo but with at least one other product imo. And, in those cases I personally would only use 1 spray of regular strength TuTH.
Examples…for a party/club scene, 1 spray IO, 2 sprays of Heavy Ammo and a single spray of TuTH. This would give a high dose of fun social Alpha Nol, a moderate dose of None, but with a little extra sexual direction and a comparatively small dose of status enhancing Rone.

On the flip side you might go with 2 drops of A314, a single spray each of Ammo and TuTH. This would give a very strong status vibe, again with a moderate but noticable sexuality, and just a hint of Alpha Nol social appeal to take the edge off.

Heavy Ammo and TuTH2X alone would be a very strong None vibe and a blatantly sexual one at that. The Rone status and Nol socials are there but considering that people can still OD on Ammo alone I doubt it would be enough. Just my opinion.

It’s not so much that the cologne smell stays on me too long or anything, it’s just that I have a collection of all the consumer lineup of mones (except IG because its sold out) and if I’m using a bunch of different ones all at once, I think it would probably be best to minimize sprays (and therefore use 2X) in order to keep the possibility of overwhelming cologne down.