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I appreciate everyone’s comments. I guess I was just in a strange mood yesterday. I have mixed feelings about pheromones, I actually love the smell of Pherlure & Ammo, am so so about Instant Shine, and somewhat like the smell of TUTH.

My thread wasn’t a potshot at anyone in particular, just a comment on society and advertising in general. I guarantee you most websites selling things (info, products, etc), use word of mouth advertising, and sometimes, to get a website started in making money, some of the word of mouth is started by the owners themselves (or their friends and families) via message boards or testimonials (typically a first name followed by the initial of the last name), therfore in essence there is some misrepresentation being done.

I’m not saying this particular website is doing that, though in the beginning it might have happened. I do like this message board a lot, and visit it daily. If it wasn’t for Androtics, I would have never bought the book “The Game” or the book by Mystery called “The Mystery Method”. Both books were very interesting, and though I felt somewhat sad for most of the characters (imagine feeling sad for people having tons of meaningless sex, I must be nuts !!), they did give me some ideas as far as approaching the opposite sex. Plus, to be honest, I have started wearing my pheromones almost daily, though I really haven’t tested them out in the field, so I have no ill will towards Androtics nor any other Pheromone company.

Basically I have a dislike for false advertising, I guarantee you that if I invented a piece of jewelry, and claimed that it will increase your sexual activity by 75%, I could make millions. What that advertising does is make people BELIEVE that they will increase their sexual activity, therefore making them more aggressive in their search for sex. Similarly, phereomones companies do the same thing. I don’t disagree that they possibly work, but they put you in that sexual mindset. For instance, Instant Shine, I guarantee you if it was named Instant Cum, people would be reporting about how sexual it makes them feel, instead of the reports by people how they have the feeling of “Shining”. Very Suggestive.

I’ve seen the owner here on this message board, whom I like a lot, she’s very cool. But I have seen her comment after someone said they had no result with a particular product, and mention how she had INCREDIBLE results with the same said product, followed by others in the message board saying “I need to order some of that !!”. Very suggestive.

Sort of like people who believe palm readers or tarot card readers, if they are being told that they will marry a tall, dark handsome Italian or Hispanic person, those who believe probably won’t even look at a blonde man, if they believe the readers, very suggestive.

I find both the Mystery and Androtics communities very fascinating, and would love to continue coming here, if you lovely people would have me. I apologize if anyone was offended, I didn’t mean to hurt anyones feelings, just wanted to stir some thoughts.

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I understand what your saying, its like a psychological trick, like when people get drunk off non-alchohlic beer thinking it is normal beer, its because they are expecting it therefore they kind of feel it, well i suppose its the same for some ppl, they anticipate something so much they are actually doing it themselves. I do understand alot of what your saying…

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Yes I am oficially an owner of Androtics. Sorry Jasmin and Mharris I need immediate access to all products sent to me for free and where’s my damn profits. And to think I have to wait for lab time too :angry:

You have been holding out on me and I want immediate compensation!
Jasmin you can send me the Veyron in your picture and we will call it even.

Scott:

Seriously if we didn’t want you around I believe the outcry would have been much harsher. I’m always game for a good debate. That’s why my response was to think a little bit more with an open mind.

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These are R & D forums - they are NOT for consumers to post solicited or otherwise, testimonials. Michael and Jasmin use the information they glean here to make better and ever-more effective products for the pheromone community to utilise.

Being a sceptic is fine and well, but thinking everybody here is just running off at the mouth is nonsensical. Yes, I will admit there are a couple of regulars whose posts you read and all you are thinking is “And then you woke up..” but by and large the WOMEN here at least, can sort out the flotsam from the jetsam, and know what is pure BS and what is fact - and the majority of posts here are about real and legitimate experiences with pheromones.

Bear in mind some of us (me for one) have been using pheromones for YEARS before Androtics/Smartmones came on the scene, and we are not easily impressed, nor are we in the least prone to saying something will do ANYTHING it does not.

Case in point: The Drive Him Crazy series. Michael expected BIG things results using this series from us ladies, but with the exception of MX108, those of us who have a lot of experience in pheromone usage got zip, and declared them duds. And we REPORTED that we got zip, and found them to be duds. That is information that’s available to anybody who wants to use the search function.

See? its not all about the great “hits” people get here. Do a bit of delving and you will find several of the earlier experimental mixes that got zero results.

THAT is the beauty of being able to, IF YOU SO CHOOSE - try experimental components that may, or may not turn out to be effective pheromones, and thus possible invaluable products for your arsenal.

Ail :slight_smile:

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Your story was very funny though.

It would have been more believable with say 3 phone numbers and not 7.

The fact that a compnay even puts up a lightly-moderated forum points to their credibilty. I used to subscribe to a football (soccer) tipster from England who shot to fame when he landed a 22 million to 1 shot bet and he had a message board for all of two weeks before he realised it just gave all his unsatisfied customers a place to realise they were not alone in feeling ripped off.

Saying that -mones have a placebo element to them is all well and good but yet about everything in life has a placebo element to it. There’s not really a way to get away from that, unless you can do the “forget you’re wearing them at all method”. Which I’ve never been able to do!

Matt

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Apology accepted on my part.
I’ll agree that some people can be very suggestible but it’s known that not everyone is. So how can you believe that all positive reports are the results of suggestiblity? And how do you account for the negative reports eg the mx108’s which Ail mentioned for instance?

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Phoenix: We LOVE MX108. It was the others in the “Drive Him Crazy” series that got nothing - and in those days we HAD to purchase them at full-size to find that out, as it was well before Michael decided to launch the “To-Go” sizes.. :slight_smile:

Ail :slight_smile:

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Oops my mistake :slight_smile:
just the name was wrong.. :slight_smile:

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Dude, it’s called advertising, it’s marketing . . . . you’re in a bar and there’s a poster of some babe in a bikini holding a bottle of beer. Is the advertiser telling you that if you drink this brand of beer, you’re going to get laid? No, but it makes sense that people (especially guys, more visually oriented) would make this association at a sub-conscious level. Advertisers present words and images that have certain associations and conotations (dependent upon culture of course). They want you to have positive thoughts about their product.

So what? How is that false advertising? How is this morally questionable? Get over it and get over yourself. People with products to sell want to make money.

I drink micro-brews, not the swill advertised on the poster, but I still enjoy looking at the girl in the bikini . . . .

And if you really believe that you can make millions on that piece of jewelry, quit posting and get your a** in gear!

And then, of course, make sure you send some my way as a fee for my little motivational talk here. :smiley:

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Well, some people have good imaginations and talents, but do not know where and how to use it properly!:smiley:

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Scott, I know where you are coming from. Speaking about your statements outside of the Androtics element and speaking solely about mental processes, what you seem to be speaking about is psychological priming. I’ve also been curious about the possible conflicts between the way pheromones are marketed, and have been keeping an eye out throughout my recent experiences.

I personally feel there is merit to the effects of priming. I can remember reading about dobermann pinschers and their athletic abilities. A short while later, I was pulling down rebound after rebound for a few games in a row. Could have been a coincidence, I haven’t tried to replicate those results yet. But, perhaps it was a window to the power of priming? I don’t know yet.

I recently received my shipment of togo bottles (thanks for the sample TUTH Jasmin, although I don’t know what my young self will do with it yet..) and I noticed on the bottle of IH there was a small halo on it. Immediately I wondered what, if any effects that halo might have on me. I didn’t feel that different. But my house mate must have, because he finally exploded and let me know what’s been on his mind for the last 3 weeks.

I know that he wasn’t exposed to the priming of IH’s bottle, so I know that if any effects are attributed to something, it would be the pheros. That does not, however, mean that priming plays no part. It’s just another thing to consider.

Finally, bringing Androtic’s as a company into conversation, I feel they do a very good job preventing any false effects due to priming. They seem to have many experimental mixes/pheros that are referred to only by letters (TAF,TAH,TAK, etc..) or are numbered (mx102, mx113, p79, etc..) If you have been raised in an environment where these letter/number combinations can trigger specific responses, I’d sure like to know where you’re from. It’s only after they have developed a mix to be consistent that they give it a congruent name (at least that’s how I conclude, it wouldn’t be impossible to create a product named Instant Shine, then develop it accordingly, but it would be significantly harder and illogical.)

Anyway, I just figured since no one else had anything else to say other than how Androtics is legitimate, pheromone’s are subtle, I’d add some different input for your thread :stuck_out_tongue:

On another note, Jasmin, if you’re reading this, you guys should consider combining a mint smell with IH. I was thinking that the smell of mint is highly associated with cleanliness/freshness which is also strongly associated with honesty (ex: coming clean). So, logically, if olfactory priming is a possibility (which from what I’ve read is big possibility - smell bringing us back through memories) then the combination of mint and the actual phero contents of IH could be an interesting combo? I dunno, if you guys do consider it, I’d be interested to just know.