It’s my understanding that E is alot more powerful than most legal psychoactive substances you can get your hands on, much stronger effect on the synapses in your brain. The only thing remotely “out there” I’ve tried is large doses of kava root years ago (usually prepared the traditional way, chewing or griding it up in a mild solvent like alcohol)- interesting enough the kava produce effects similar to Denied’s description of E’s effects, though there was a noticeable sense of slowness to everything (and definitely don’t drive under kava’s influence, as it does seem to affect your reaction/response times), and I’m sure the effects were much milder. I’ve never done hard drugs or even marijuana. Now days I’ve got no desire to explore that stuff, much less risk the legal consequences.
You’re wasting you time trying to play on the subtleties of pheromones with people who are on a pill.
You need to get in with the group before they take them - here pheros may help.
What about A314 to try to help a girl stop on drugs? Is that allso waste of oil or shall i give it a try? My ex girl friend has had a breakdown and started whit that shit, i know she will listen, but does A314 has any effect?
Lets cut the feed back on E and just concentrate on what Pheros mix best with what race..
Well it was part of the question 
Caucasian women pretty much will react to all mones. Over use of anone makes them bitchy.
Asian and Indian women tend to shy away from high anone signatures
Latin and African American women tend to like the high anone signature.
Tisha
Gone with the Wind had some slightly contrarian insights into the “what works best” theme. It’s been bumped a time or two but since there are so many new folks around I thought I would throw a link into this thread. If you are interested in any “what works best” questions give this post a read! Great food for thought!
In the end, synthetic drugs will leave most natural drugs in the dust. They target specific neurotransmitters and with much more potency and frequency. E basically works by flooding your brain with serotonin and dopamine. I can’t imagine natural drugs having such an effect. I haven’t touched heroin or meth, and those are supposedly miles better than E. Synthetics drugs are really a league of their own, which is why I stick to my earth loving MJ and Shrooms. 
I think Mac put it the best as far as strategy goes. Get in the group while they are still somewhat rationally coherent. They will actually remember you then and be much more likely to come to you. You have no idea how hard it can be to keep track of a couple rolling people, even if you guys are close friends. Your heart just takes you whereever it wants to go.
There is a reason for all this feedback about E. It’s important to have a full grasp of the situation you’re about to go into, and as Tisha said, you asked for it 
. Since you haven’t tried the drug yourself, I think people felt that it was important that you’re fully aware of the mindset and difficulties involved in dealing to essentially two competing mental influences - synthetic drugs (aka E) and pheromones. Trust me, the E is much stronger than the pheromones. However, since they don’t serve the exact same purpose, that doesn’t leave pheromones useless, it just might change how they are applied/used and what their effects might be.
In any case, as D4 said, you can search around and find about the various products, mixes and putatives around here. PT’s search function is awesome compared to most other forums, it helps me a lot.
What’s unique to your question is the situtation, not really the pheromones you could use. There are only so many appropriate consumer products that the suggestions would mostly revolve around a couple products in varying dosages. However, what you can’t search for (as far as I know, I haven’t found a discussion like this before on E) is how to approach the situation. Sorry if you feel overwhelmed by all the info, but it’s a complex situation for the target and that needs to be taken into account, that’s all.
Why do people (including product descriptors on smartmones.com) say to use more 'none in a club environment? 
I believe that mostly has to do with the fact that in a bar/club environment people (both men and women) are on the prowl.
This leads to there being more overall pheromones released in the air.
So using more -none is acceptable because the conditions (smoke, sweat, etc) make it appropriate and sometimes advantageous.
As for my thoughts on what pheromones to use around girls on E,
while I’ve never tried E and am still kind of a phero rookie I would echo those who suggested socials.
Anything that enhances the pleasant vibe and reinforces that you’re a fun, nice and safe person is never a bad thing.
I think it’s all about context- androstenone is less socially acceptable in other areas.
Lol its cool I know I asked about the E factor.. but I don’t want people thinking I am some kinda weirdo preying on girls in the club if you catch my drift.. was just curious and I received all the basic feed back I needed. Thanks guys and gals!
Both lapew and Dae are right, In a club environment there is more competition. People are more excepting of a strong pheromone sig in fact there are subconsciously looking for it.
Its not socially acceptable to give off a strong feeling of sexual tension in some environments. It can actually have the opposite effect you desire if not used in the correct setting. It would be like wearing a bikini to church
Tisha
Once when I was wearing Turn Up The Heat a female bartender wouldn’t even make eye contact with me. LOL
I knew it was unusual because she was looking everyone else in the eyes when they ordered.
maybe she noticed you were staring lol J/K 
Just staring at her as…err I mean staring at her to asses my order.
In all seriousness it was kind of strange, I could tell see wasn’t annoyed or anything just a little nervous.
I knew that, I was just asking 'cause you said that using the stuff would be useless around drunks, and isn’t that what the majority of the people in a club are? Drunk?
Surprisingly No LOL In Bars you find drunks, In Clubs people are there to pick up other people. They may drink a little but not enough to be considered drunk or incapacitated. Of course occasionally you get your drunken lush
Oh, I get it now, so people that are tipsy/faded/buzzed still get affected by the 'pheromones, yes? It’s just the “fall out of my seat” drunks that don’t.
Yes anyone who is fucked up on drugs or alcohol to the point that it effects there behavoir.
Tisha
I’ve had results with a drunk chick before. It was almost an Axe commercial. She said “You smell really good” and within 5 min. we were making out. (I was drunk too)