Good morning 
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So I’ve been wondering 
what would happen if I decided to wear the following pheromones all at the same time:
Essence of a woman (copulin)
Primal instinct unscented for women (alpha-androstenol)
Beta-androstenol
Estratetraenol
Liquid trust (Oxytocin)
P83
P86
P88
TAL
TAH
what are the chances of me becoming a biohazard???
It would depend on some factors. What effect are you going for ? How much you planning to use of each ? What does each one do for you on its own ? How does one pheromone steer another ?
Generally what I do is pick one mix or pheromone that I am working around. That’s the primary vibe I want to give off. Then I steer that vibe with small amounts of other pheromones depending on the emotions I want to evoke.
Now how do each of those other pheromones you listed steer your primary ? Do the vibes match and blend or are they all over the place sending mixed signals that will just confuse people ?
I would find what you got there unbalanced to use all at once. Its not that you would be a bio hazard you would just confuse people with the vibe and they would in all likelihood ignore the feelings. Its sort of like colors. If you blend all colors together you get a murky black, you cant see or feel all the nuances of each color when it turns black but when you just blend a few together you get a vibrant exciting new attractive color with specific nuances that you can see and feel.
Tisha
I’m curious as to why a women would want to where coplins?
Why do you wear anone ??
I agree with Tisha’s response to an extent because it got you to take a step back and think.
However , women come on this forum or looking to wear copulins for different reasons. In fact, some women come on this forum not even looking for cops but in the end find out that is what is needed or best suits their situation.
I am pretty young and don’t think I need it as much really but I started wearing it because I wanted men to be aggressive towards me sexually so I wouldn’t feel so cute as opposed to a sexy , irresistible woman.
Many women come on this forum who are married wanting to use cops so their husband pounces on them the way they use to before they were married or on their honeymoon.
I have been told that women come on this forum wanting to use copulins to control men. Honestly if they do I have never had an introduction or read anything in the women section where a woman openly admitted that or even seemed to have those intentions.
Well I have said my piece, maybe some other women can give you some insight or you can just read the threads dealing with cops, eow to get more insight.
I see. Then a women wearing aNone, would be akin to a man wearing coplins. Thanks.
How did you get that from me asking you why you wear anone? I assume you wear anone to give a masculine sexual “in your prime” vibe and to attract women on a sexual level.
Women wear copulins for the same reason. To give a feminine sexual vibe that indicates we are still fertile and in our prime
Women wearing anone doesn’t indicate that she has been with a man like copulins does when worn by a man. Women naturally make anone. Men do not naturally make copulins so there is only one way other then the bottle you have the scent on you.
Mick gave a great take on why women look for copulins.
Now many guys say “well its easy for women to get laid all they have to do is ask” Thats a total misconception. Sure I know if any women holds a sign up at the mall that says “Lets have sex” she will get some takers but just like men are looking for quality women, women are looking for quality men. By the way I bet if a guy held the same sign up he would get some takers as well. He wouldn’t probably want to have sex with them though.
While I do think ugly is something that comes from the inside you cant ignore that people have visual preferences. Just like every guy is not built like Adonis or is as appealing in looks as Johnny Depp (who I would gladly become a sex slave for snort ) every women is not Angelina Jolie or whoever appeals to your taste. Pheromones dont make you look better visually although some people have reported this effect with P86. Copulins tested similar. In visual testing men rated women higher in looks when exposed to copulins then before they were exposed.
Just like your looking for that edge so are we. 
Tisha
What mone would a women wear to signal she’s been with men, the way coplins does for men or is there even one out there?
Well, Icequeen, with all the caveats mentioned by Tish, I think what you’ve described is actually a very good mix. You’ll have to do some work on the proportions to discover what suits you.
You’ll have to give up on the P88. It won’t be back. Most of the other stuff I have experimented with myself, and I would seriously encourage you to proceed.
The only place I have a concern is with the EST and EoW. They may be brilliant together or they may pull in opposite directions. I don’t know.
Of course, you may not be an ice queen any more… 
So far there is no pheromone that indicates a women has been with a man. We all make the same hormones just in different proportions. Copulins are not really classified as pheromones because they are not derived from hormones they are derived from fatty lipids. acids and proteins. They do signal like a pheromone though and actually cause a measurable difference in testosterone levels in men exposed.
This is not to say a substance or even a pheromone doesn’t exist that is exclusive to males, just that it has not been isolated yet at least for the purpose of pheromone testing. It could maybe be found in men’s semen…who knows ??
Tisha
Thank you guys for the replys. I really appreciate your help. I am still new at this and I’ve been considering the Phero Baptism that steve mentioned in one of his posts . I am too excited right now to be reasonable . I know I should slow down,take my time, use one pheromone at a time, understand what each pheromone does to me and what effect does it have on others. I promise I’ll get to that at some point in the near future, but right now all I can think about is going nutty with pheromones. So Warren you mentioned something about EST and EOW either being brilliant together or pulling in opposite directions. what do you mean by that??!!! How so??!!
and the P88 
???gone for good!!!won’t be back!!! ever!!! why!!!I was looking forward to trying it 
I guess I’ll have to do without it
Go for it LOL We all do it the first time we get our package. Even after all these years I do the baptism when I get a package with new stuff in it, then I calm down and test them one at a time
Hey ya gotta have some fun with it to.
I know your asking Warren and I will be interested to here his take on it but I will add my 2 cents as well. Est and EOW work brilliantly together for sexual intimacy.
Little tip >>>> If you have est you really dont need the P88 so dont stress about it being gone. Just keep in mind the reaction you see men reporting is not always the reaction you get when a female wears the same molecule. People will process the emotion different according to gender. Pay attention more to the self effects they report. Oh and if you really want to try P88 get P93. They are basically the same except P88 has impurities that make it less smooth.
If it were me I would skip the TAL although I love TAL it just clouds the vibe I would want to be giving with the other pheromones but test it out it may work for you.
Tisha
My understanding of EST is that it is produced by pregnant women and it makes people want to treat you very delicately and take care of you. With larger amounts, Diane thought people were very patronizing and treated her like a child (certainly not the “ice queen” image). EoW, of course, is copulins and is going to draw a much more sexually aggressive reaction from men.
Being a man, I really doubt I could adequately test this combination myself – nor do I have and desire to – but it seems to me that these are very different reactions that EoW and EST elicit. In my experience, when you wear pheromones that pull in different directions there are different possibilities. Sometimes you just get both effects at the same time, a smooth additive effect (e.g. TAA & P86). Sometimes you get a rapid, uncontrollable and miserably distracting vibration between the two effects (e.g. TAA & TAC). Sometimes you seem to have a choice as to which effect to go with (e.g. TAA & TAK). And, of course, there are always individual differences.
From what Tisha says, I trust that EST and EoW combine smoothly with additive effects, though you probably want to do a lot of testing with different proportions. TAL is more in keeping with what I think of as the ice queen image. With great individual differences, women seem to give a lot of thought to the correct balance of TAL to TAH. TAH strikes me as more EST-like. You may want TAL to balance the EST or you may prefer more TAH to complement the EST.
P88 turned out to be a less pure (and unreproducible) form of P93 synthesized by an alternate lab. I’ve been trying to figure out what the impurities might have been. I believe the P88 effects were very, very different from what we know as P93.
I have seen lots of reports on EST and have tested it for a long time. Never seen anyone say it made them be treated like a child. I dont recall Di saying that either but she tended to get different reactions from the majority when she reported. She had mentioned to me once she thought it was because of her medical issues. Like you said there is always a exception to the rule so you have to test them out and see what works with your biology.
For the majority of women its more of a increase in sensitivity and attentiveness. EOW works well with it because the EST sort of calms it without taking away the arousal. Its more slow and sweet seduction as opposed to wham bam. They blend together to bring a whole new vibe.
I have a lot of both P88 and P93 still. P93 is smoother, more upbeat and comfortable synchronicity type vibe. I get the same with P88 its just not as upbeat. I saw your urge to merge post. I cant say if gives me that urge nor urges those around me but its bound to work different on a women then a man.
Tisha
Here’s the Diane quote:
I reviewed some of the other posts on EST. Most of the posts focused on things like people being sweet and helpful. That is not inconsistent with the experience which Diane describes, but I don’t see other people explicitly complaining about loss of status or being treated like a child. In one post a lady was very angry and ready to be quite assertive with her neighbor, but he was so helpful that she never really had the opportunity to assert herself.
The Icequeen1988 might enjoy looking at Msselva’s EST formulas:
Tacitus described EST this way:
I’m gonna have to get my EST out. I haven’t used it for a while, but as I recall my experience was similar to Tacitus.
You are very fortunate, Tisha, to still have some P88 around. There was not much of it available for very long and little was written about it. I was able to find the occasional post by a woman who seemed to share the urge to merge experience.
Tisha, what do yo think should be added to P93 to get the P88 experience?
Its hard to say because I dont experience exactly what you do with P88 but I would go for P83 and P86. Those came out with P88 so its fair to assume there are some similarities. P87 seemed the same effect as P88 to me but thats out as well. I like the testing you did with P81 with it. Lots of reports on increased focus as well so you have to check the focus mones.
So if I were to test I would try using P93 with P83, P86, P81, taf and P79.
Not all at once but in different variations. Those would be my likely suspects
Tish
As you’ve probably read, Tisha, P81, P87 and P90 (with P93) are my favorite candidates so far. And I agree that P83 and P86 also provide a valuable contribution.
Your phrasing has an ominous ring to it. I need to get some more P87. It’s been OOS for a while. Any ideas about when it might be back? Maybe at the same time P86 returns or have you noticed any patterns there?
LOL no I just meant its out of stock right now. I dont know when or if it will return. Its been hard to predict here lately with AD being unable to get certain molecules. I mean… who would ever suspected TAL to not return. Its like a critical component in women’s formulas but from what John indicated they cant obtain it anymore. I hope both P87 and P86 return but I wouldn’t wait for them.
With P88 I dont think they could replenish it even if they wanted to. I dont think they know what the impurities were either. If they did they could replicate it.
Tisha
Preselection doesn’t work for women the same way it does with men..not to say men don’t tend to want what another man has but there’s not usually an instinctive response to smelling another man on a woman causing arousal.
Cops on a man act as social proof, gives the player vibe which sends the message that as a male you are a proven and in demand commodity.
However cops on a woman enhances the feminine vibe that they already carry. And from what I’ve read cops on a woman work better and more directly than any other type of pheromone does for either gender. The scent of copulins can more than double a mans testosterone production. Essentially when you’re around a woman and she’s got fairly heavy cops, it’s like her feminine vibe is enhanced and amplified, making you feel more masculine. It’s a signal that says a sexually healthy woman is nearby which results in an elevated T level in anticipation for either mating, or the possibility of having to compete for the mate.
So let me get this straight, P88 as well as TAL won’t be back, I shouldn’t count on P86 being available anytime soon and P93 doesn’t give the same effect as the P88.
hmmmmm
So this leaves me with:
EOW (copulin)
Primal instinct for women unscented (alpha-androstenol)
beta-androstenol
Estratetraenol
Liquid trust (oxytocin)
P83
TAH
Not bad…I guess
Still…the combo might be lacking the magic of P88 and P86