Thank you very much JJ for tuning in. For A-nol/b-nol thing I think it depends on the setting. If you’re going to be out and about then I would recommend going A-1+A-nol. If you’re going to be around a particular girl or group of girls then definitely go with the b-nol combo.
You also stated that you saw hints of the fallout effect? Could you describe what you noticed? I want to get as many cases and examples as possible so I can compare them to find a common trait.
K-Train are you using the actual anol and bnol or are you using io/ih?
The main products are IO and IH. I should have made that clear. I apologize. The reason I say A-nol/b-nol is because IO and IH are pretty heavy in one nol and low in the other hence. I think that using straight a-nol or b-nol mixed with A1 will produce the same effects A1 with IO or IH.
However I am thinking about creating an A1/Spaceland combo just to see how it works. Spaceland does have a herbal scent to it and the orginal IFM also had a herbal scent so it will be interesting to compare the results.
I was just wondering cause I wanted to try it out. I wanted to know if I should have gotten a concentration of 15mcg/spray of anol or bnol.
Happy said to get half strength as its 5ml, you recommend the same?
Yes, the 5ml is just as good as the 10ml bottle and is also much cheaper. I’ll be purchasing some more myself actually.
If you can afford it, try to buy IO or IH in a 2x concentration.
I have Ih in 2x right now. I wanna try em both out, we’ll see how this goes
Well I notice that this one particular girl was asking me a lot of PERSONAL questions whenever I had A314 on, plus she was mirroring my body posture during the conversation. It may not have been much, but I did find it rather odd.
Hmm, I’d say that the personal questions is her trying to find out if you’re a good pick and the mirroring body posture is…well, that’s her being submissive.
But how often is she sticking around you?
I’m still in the process of archiving information but the information I’ve encountered is really opening my eyes. If my information is correct, the A314 fallout syndrome may have been around as early as 2006 or earlier!
Of course, I should say that the first thread to actually talk about it was in 2006 but according to Jasmin’s comments on the issue it’s safe to assume that fallout has been present for quite some time.
On another note, I think the key to figuring out HOW it happens may lie within the PUA community.
Well she definitely wants to hang around me whenever we go to class and it seems she always has this big smile on her face whenever we met up. That has been consistent since I think the A314 is creating a memory effect
Well then damn you might have something then JJ!!
I recall a past friend(girl) doing something similar. If your case is similar to mine then this might be the early stages of the fallout effect.
Of course she might just like you but her behavoir seems to be pointing to something more. I’ll be curious how she reacts when you add in A1 and Instant Honesty to the A314. Of course that might make it worst but…as long as she’s attractive then it shouldn’t be that bad.
Speaking of fallout, did you ever perfect your Black Fallout mix? Pardon my noobness but I see older posts talking about it and the self-effects seemed great at least but then there’s no further mention of it later.
I have an old recipe of it that was given to me awhile back but never composited.
I have a bunch of the ingredients but not all. Need the store to restock as I have a great target for the mix as well as another mix that someone else had given me a recipe for that is close to the fallout mix…
KT - did you ever finalize the mix and if so did you change it at all from the last recipe sent on 12/01/09?
Cheers
Reclipse, good to see you back! To answer you and Boogie’s question, my computer was infected with a virus a few months ago and we had to clean everything out. Which of course included, the BFM recipe.
I still have some, but honestly I made a mixing mistake and had to scrap the project. I had intended on rebooting it but with the craziness going on these past few months I haven’t been able to progress.’
HOWEVER, I am researching a lot of new pheros combos (which is why I’m on here so often now ). I think that what I’ll do is continue my testing but while doing so formulate a new BFM(Black Fallout Mix) which will center around my research.
I’ll go ahead and say that the new BFM will center around my research into finding a way to avoid A1 depression while at the same time increasing the user’s confidence AND lowering the competition from other males. I doubt I’ll get THAT far but I’m going to be making a new order soon for A1 to test my theories.
I still have that recipe if you want me to pm it to you to review. It had rone, p75, TAA, p83, and b-nol… don’t know if you had made any revisions after that.
I like the thought behind it.. and I think it’ll actually work well.
Hey hey! Long time no see!
Anyway, the Black Fallout zombie mix I made a few months ago has been sitting on my shelf for a while so I decided to try it out and see what it was like. (Been off pheros for a while just because I haven’t been bothered really).
It seemed to make me much more teasy. I tended to tease people and make fun of them (in a friendly way). Tried it at a 21st birthday I went to.
Saw a girl that I had a weird experience with a few years ago. Things seemed to flow absolutely fine with her, and her friends who I haden’t seen in ages. Could’ve been that we’ve just grown up
But we were quipping and talking as if nothing had happened. Felt good.
I don’t remember what was in that mix at all. I might need to go back and check. I think I wrote it down on the forums somewhere.
I can send you the BFM recipe if you want. I think I still have it in my private messages.
Wow LeafStamp, it’s great to hear from you again buddy! I’m glad to see you got great results from BFM. Reclipse already sent me the ingredients but just to make sure I’d like for you to send them too just to make sure their the same.
Also, today I just recieved my new bottle of A1 along with EOW. Let me first off say that EOW does stink, but not as bad as I thought. I’ll be combining EOW with A1 in order to see if the reported testosterone boost will help buffer A1 AND to see if A1 will improve upon EOW’s social proof effects.
EOW contains copulins, which when worn by a man at a low dosage can help to produce “The Bandwagon Effect”. Unfortunately, copulins ALSO are reported to repel some women so my hope is that by combining A1 with EOW I’ll give off the vibe of a Lady’s Man instead of a “man-hoe”.
Ah so that’s what you meant…so EOW has testostorone in it? Essence of Women?
Ahh, I’m happy you made it!
But no, EOW has copulins which are basically synthetic pussy juice. At a low enough dose it can give guys social proof. I’ve been researching this stuff and it seems that it can give guys a 150% boost in testosterone BUT the catch is it has to be ON A WOMEN.
The thing is that it can make the wearer (if he’s male) a little more aggressive which could help counter the effects of A1. I’m going to be mixing some A1 in a to-go at 25mcgs per spray AND I’ll add a drop of EOW into it just to see if it helps. I’ll probably go up to about 100mcgs just to see if it will work.
If it does work, then I’ll start using this combo in my party mixes.
So the EOW has to be on a women to make the mans testostorone rise…what are you gonna do spray it on the women you meet?
LMAO!!! No, from what I’ve read you can still get that animal-like testosterone rush without having cops on a woman BUT copulins on a man at the correct dosage can do 3 things:
1.) Can increase the respect you get from other guys
2.) Can create social proof or “The Bandwagon effect”
3.) Might counter A1 depression
The 3rd one has yet to be tested, but I’ll be seeing how it works tomorrow. Here is a thread that details this process a little more Copulins: what to pair them with for social proof, and is current EoW weaker?
The thing about copulins is that it basically heavily attracts certain women and also heavily repels certain women. Some heterosexual women will become very turned on but some will become turned off. The reason I’m using it with A1 is so that I can negate the repulsive effects.
Believe it or not, I believe Catlord’s Pany Scorcher Mix also used hints of copulins within it and it was a great success. My good friend Scottie123 also used copulins with his Shocker Mix with excellent results and he also used A1 with that mix as well.
Of course copulins isn’t the “holy grail” of pheros or anything. It’s simply a boost to the signature. But I’m really hoping to be able to push this stuff to its limit and find out how far I can take it.