Well, Here I am.. Pheromones for Bar Hopping, Social Interactions, & Attraction. M/45

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Hello to all,

I stumbled upon this website somehow (I think looking for colognes) and started reading the posts about their experiences. I’ve heard of pheromones before and of course saw the Oceans 13 movie with the Gilroy patch. I never really took it seriously or thought these actually worked.

So, since I was about 35 I started to think my sex appeal was dropping and although I had girlfriends and relationships, they always seemed to fizzle out fast. I have somewhat of a smart ass, cocky/funny personality which I always thought was an asset. I am kind of shy though, and somewhat of an introvert until I get to know someone. Today, I’m 45 and single, recently moved to a new state and it seems like anytime I approach a woman, it’s like the opposite effect of pheromones, like they are repelled by me. I am in pretty good shape, 5’10 190lbs, athletic build. I have all my hair, nice teeth, no bad breath issues, etc. I think I am a generally good looking guy. Most people I meet guess I’m in my 30s. So what could my problem be? Am I giving off “bad” pheromones? Or at my age am I not giving out any or enough?

After reading a lot of posts on here, I said what the hell and decided to buy a few of the “to go” bottles to try them out. I ordered before noticing the $25 gift certificate offer but if these work, I will definitely be buying more!

I would like to hear from men around my age about their experiences using some good mixes and what the best way is to start out using them in social environments and also bars and clubs of course. Thanks in advance!

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Hello! A warm welcome to you here! Seeing no one has replied you yet. I decided to to just drop by anyway to welcome you first. Im sure other people will be dropping by soon enough!

Hahah! Yes I have heard about the Oceans 13 movie with the Gilroy patch quite a few times before. I must say although movies are a little exaggerated but they do work. It just takes a little time to know what to look out for and for people to get used to your new smell too :slight_smile:

I can’t tell what your problem is after reading because if anything you do sound like an interesting person, and I do think that pheromones might give you that boost you you’re looking for :slight_smile:

Anyway I hope Im not over stepping my boundaries here. But something came to mind and I was thinking maybe next time when you try your pheromones, especially with Instant Openness or Instant Honesty try taking the back seat and listen (like a lot). I thought of that is because when I first started experimenting with Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, there were a few times initially I thought maybe it didnt work. But I realize I was talking more or equally to the other party, I didnt really give the other party more time to speak but when i did i became more observant of the changes etc. Anyway on a side note, most women seem to be all races across love when men listen. Anyway I do sincerely want to apologise if what I said rub you wrong in any way at all.

All the best if anything I would like to borrow some notes from Justine (all credit to him) I saw previously and thought it might be useful for you! So I copied and paste it here for your reference just in case you havent seen it.

Here it goes: (thank you justin - im sharing this cos i think this might be helpful for this gentlemen here)

I usually suggest the Men’s Kit as you can’t go wrong because you would get everything including the A314 in spray form and there would be no guess work because you get everything and this way you get to see what works best for you. I will still suggest what the best ones to start with though so you can decide what is best for you and your budget.

Ammo If anything else this would be the best bet to start with because it is very balanced and is for general attraction and good for day use to not just bars and clubs. Nice cologne scent and a perfect standalone. This is also closer to cologne strength compared with the others to at 10%(I believe compared to 6% for the others).

A314YE This is fairly new but should be a very good one to start with for general use and would try for everything else outside of dating and should be a perfect one to build off of. Will provide a small amount of attraction and give you some status and would be a good one for day to day use. This is in stealth so there is no scent to this one, but the effects will still be there.

IG I am mentioning this one because it is in the kit and would be a great choice instead of the A314YE and will give you a more mature and knowledgeable vibe for daily use to. This one is in 6% Neroli scent.

These are the 3 main ones I would look at and build off of these. Ammo will be the main one you want and the A314YE and the IG would be good for general day to day use.

TUTH Highly sexual and what ever you do use the Ammo first and build women up to this one and the reason is if you come out with this one it may be perceived as coming on to strong. This is best used when you have built up a woman using the Ammo first. A little goes a long way.

IShine More of a social, but it goes with everything for work, dating, socials, family gatherings, and a lot more. What I like is it brings out even more attraction out of Ammo and will boost your confidence and put everyone in a good mood.

Hope this helps! All the best to your journey with Pheromones. :smiley:

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Hi ricirich, welcome. What are the to-gos you got?

With your description, I’d say you have a good idea of your baseline responses from others. So, I’d suggest just trying one to-go at a time, and see how those responses change.

When you say women are repelled, is it when you approach them, or when you try to escalate? I might suggest something comforting and attractive like ammo + IS.

Have fun!

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What I meant by repelled, is when I walk up to them, they act as if I just invaded their space and how dare I be talking to them. Seems like I send out the vibe that makes them act like they are better than me. I know when a woman tests a mans alpha status, but this is different, borderline rude. From the posts I’ve read about Instant Jerk, I would say it’s like I just bathed in it. My thoughts were that I was sending out the IJ pheromones naturally so maybe I needed something to counter it?

The to go’s I got are:

Ammo
IS
IO
TUTH
A314

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Ok, IO would be a good first choice to open them up. You could then try and add IS to improve their mood.

Finally, Ammo for some attraction.

I’d keep the TUTH and A314 in the holster for now until you see improvements. A314 can cause intimidation which would still be detrimental for your purposes while TUTH can make you come across as creepy with your present level of responses.

Cheers

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Welcome to PheromoneTalk, ricirich071.

Your intro GC is now in your email. :slight_smile:

I agree with the recommendations above. The best way to “soften” your vibe is by starting with the socials. It will put a smile on your face, give off a friendly vibe, both important ingredients in getting into the first base.

Of course, you have to check your approaches too. Sometimes, the issue lies with the way you carry yourself socially, the way you interact, the way you create the first impression about yourself.

Happy Pheroing!

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Hello richrich071,

You have a really good base to work with. I am thinking if you start with the Ammo for a while around the women to see what you would get would be best with what you have. The Ammo is very balanced and has a pheromone in it that helps to open women up and get them chatting. I would start here. For a very basic yet effective combo try adding some IShine to it and the Ishine will add more attraction to the Ammo and put everyone in a good mood and will help with the younger women.

A314 should be useable at your age even for dating, but I would not start here thought because of the responses you are getting now. When you have tried the Ammo and Ammo/IShine I would then try this one out. I would test the A314 in a work setting first before you try for dating though and you may have to steer it with others like IShine and IH.

I would definitely save the TUTH after you have tested some of the others and when you have built up a woman with Ammo. Then after she is more comfortable with you then try this one. A common trick I do is with Ammo my sweetspot is right at 3 sprays when using solo, Sometime I transition the Ammo to the TUTH by cutting back to 2 sprays Ammo and using 1/2 spray of TUTH and what this does is you can slowly transition from the Ammo to more a sexual direct signature without coming off to strong.

With IShine you can use it with anything and I tend to lean on this one very heavy for almost every situation as it brings a more lively upbeat happy vibe to everything.

Test what you have in the meantime and then when you are ready IO, IH, and CTTM2 will be the ones to compliment the best what you have.

IO is an ice breaker and will get people very chatty and is best to use on strangers to open them up. They can chat about a lot of random things though and will be talkative.

CTTM2 This one is like a mix of IO and IH. What I would do is transition from the IO to this one to help keep things open and also will provide slightly more in depth conversations and some bonding.

IH Will bring to the surface peoples true feelings and is very in depth and great bonding. This one is great to have if you find a woman you like and you want to get to her heart and how she really feels.