what am I doing wrong errrrrrrr

Okay so last night it was my friends 21 birth day and we went to club (full bottles service/VIP)

I put about .5cm of IS -IH-IO-IFM-AMMO- and couple other things I can remember in my go to bottles and took them with me to club and spray them on right when I got there. It was about 5 to 6 spray of everything, maybe less, and the results I got; NONE :frowning:

so what am I doing wrong?

you said 5 to 6 sprays of everything did you do 5-6 sprays of Ammo? maybe you OD’ed on none?

Also what exactly happen when you say no results? remember you have to approach and talk and open with girls, they won’t come to you 99% of the time

also when it comes to clubs girls love guys who dance, guys who dance usually get the girls

maybe the smell of desperate was more over powering??

That seems like a potent mix to me. They were most probably phoned out!

my sweet spot for ammo is about 4 to 5 sprays and I was talking to all the guys and the girls I already know so I know I didn’t OD.

I was looking for body language from girls in club and I got none.

I think using pheromones is like life. Sometimes you have a bad day and, sometimes you have the time of your life. Really it was your mates night as it was his birthday. Maybe your turn next week.

Chin up :slight_smile:

but really I haven’t seen a good solid hit from it …unless I already know the girl I mean TUTH and AMMO turn my ex gf crazy (aka wild) but ya

Hey Dss, why don’t you describe what you believe a “good solid hit” would look like to you. Maybe you are getting them but not seeing them. Maybe you are looking too hard for something specific and we can help point you in a direction that is easier to see.

emm something like a good solid eye contact or really anything at all. I mean I got a smile from the bar T but thats just her job.

You sure 5-6 sprays is your sweet spot with Ammo? Thats seems like an awful lot of none for a 21 year old. Have you gotten many hits with it previously with this mix?

from girls that I already know ya

The girls you already know may not have a problem with it because they are already comfortable around you. For strangers it may be different, they might feel you’re coming on too strong with that much -none.

Or using 5-6 sprays of all those products together might simply be counter productive. Sometimes more is less. I rarely go above 3-4 sprays for any product.

You can keep experimenting, don’t let what happened one night change your mind about pheros. We all have bad days every now and then.

well I am going out again tonight probably same place.

Hmmm, I think you may just be going a little overboard. Next time try maybe 2 sprays of ammo and 2 sprays of IFM and then try to not think about the pheromones just go out be yourself and have as much fun as you can make. Try to keep your drinking to a minimum so you keep a clear head and see if you don’t get more attention than normal. Don’t worry so much about the ladies. Just think about what is fun for you…let them come to your world.

I would try a little less AMMO…1-3 sprays, starting lower

The reason you woulda be getting “good hits” from girls you already know at the 5-6 spray level is because they are already comfortable with you so the extra -none probably won’t scare them off and they will likely feel the extra attraction.

The problem with none is that its basically a territorial/mating signalling molecule naturally - socially it produces something similar to a fight or flight response - this sort of response can either be exhilirating or scary. When you are with someone who already feels safe approaching you their bodily response can easily be taken as attraction. For someone who doesn’t know you, and probably has their defenses up a little bit (like most girls at a club) the bodily response can easily be taken as - “Jeez, something is making me feel uneasy… something about that guy is creepy… I’m not gonna look at him/I’m going to avoid him” = NO HITS AT CLUB

Everynow and then you’re gonna run into a girl who takes it how you want it taken - and probably see dramatic results at OD levels. However most females unfamiliar with you will shy away if your -none signature is too strong.

I would guess that with that much AMMO you would have to have pretty damn good game to bypass girls social barriers… if you managed to do so you would find things escalating like ridiculous.

ALSO, stop spending so much time looknig for girls to be looking at you - go to the club and HAVE FUN. An already highly sexual(and therefore kinda creepy) signature only gets creepier when all the guy seems to be doing is scanning the crowd. If however you are hooting it up, being social - only noticing a girl looking at you in passing. You let off the impression that you aren’t just at the club to have sex with a girl (creepy) - you’re a fun guy having a riot who happens to have a really “hot 'n sticky” aura about him (sexy)

You might have also been over-perfumed with that many sprays on

what you mean by “over-perfumed”?

Super point!

With 6 sprays of Ammo you are smelling like a wandering perfumerie! Instant Scent OD!

Try lowering it to 2 sprays and watch what happens…

Edit: The advice of Wrlprchnx is great! (https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)

I mean that AMMO is a full strength cologne… it isn’t really intended to be worn with much more than a couple sprays.

How many sprays do you normally wear of some standard cologne like aqua di gio? I personally almost make myself sick if I wear more than two… AMMO’s if you have the game scented AMMO, much more than 3 sprays and you stink of cologne

3 with the old AMMO scent is normally OK but still quite strong

if you guys knew how much cologne i spray you probably laugh

there are some i only would spray 1-2 max…

but others i do 10-15

I normally like how they smell so I don’t cover it up with anything …but I do have gio