Thanks in advance
First I’m of the opinion that androstenone is over-rated and over-used. It can have it’s place. Sometimes.
Second I’ve only used PI a few times, and I’ve only had two “repeatable” test subjects. On one older woman (60’s) it had no effect. On one “younger” woman (34) she curled up in a defensive ball even with only a drop or so. And I was about 50 yrs old and supposedly already low in androstenone… Then again I hear users like Gegogi can “bathe in it” with no ill effect.
I think Androtics “Raw Power” is similar. And I think “Instant Jerk” is up there too.
I’d go easy with it, especially at first, until you can gauge it’s effects. Results can vary depending on both you and your targets. If you want to experiment with relatively “pure” androstenone products I’d opt for either a To-Go size of one of the above Androtics products (if available -anot sure if they are), a low-dose Experimone (straight androstenone) from Androtics, or something like The Edge, NPA (New Pheromone Additive), or the like (“sold elsewhere”).
My opinions.
I have tried Primal Instinct and Rogue Male. I much prefer NPA and TUTH.
A good dose of 'none certainly has its uses but like Rbt it can be over-rated and over-used. I seldom go with heavy 'none without an equally heavy dose of a social pheromone - often Instant Shine, TAA or IH and quite often a combination of them.
There are times when women are just “in the mood” without a doubt but often they want to feel the “connection” before or during so the social products certainly help with that.
I agree with RBT here completely. I am completely moving away from none in every mix. I see it as an evil. I like the use of P83 as a substitute with some P74 and you got a great alternative.
are the negative side effects like aggression from other men, women closing up, you getting pissed off about everything, the main problem? assuming you/them can handle an X amount of -none without OD, then how would you compare P83 and P83/P74 combo to it? positive effects of none vs positive effects of P83(/P74) comparison?
I agree with the sentiments on here about AndrostEnone. I am trying to create some ways of replacing AndrostEnone and all the facets it can bring along with it in the following thread: Replacing AndrosteNone with regard to Attraction, Phase Shifting, and Lust Enhancing
That thread is about creating better outcomes and ‘progress’ with all the pheromones and scents we have at our disposal now. Pls if anyone has any ideas post in that thread (but, aside from the minute amounts of it in the slow diffusing A314, no mixes with ANY AndrostEnone at all should be included there).
For me the main problem with AnrostEnone is that even at relatively low dosages it seems to create too many dramas and emotional rollercoasters. I’ve come to the conclusion that its too much trouble to wear it on most occassions even one on one with a woman and where intimate fun is likely. I seem to always get some kind of backlash from someone after wearing AndrostEnone and sometimes this can lead to loss of people from my life 
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I will probably try buffering it with TAC at some stage given the latest talk on the forum but I don’t think it will change things too much for me with regard to AndrostEnone. Its just too hard to tame - that’s the nature of the beast 
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-Visionary
I have had excellent results with Primal Instinct. You can search some of my old posts to see actual hits. I find it works best with women I already know even if only slightly. For years I only used one drop (only when going out to bars etc.)as specified by the directions, but one night I said screw it and went with 2.5 drops. The results were amazing so I immediately got on the internet to order more and I found this site. I am an Androtics zombie now.
From what I have read my results are not typical. Maybe it is because I am a quiet, laid-back sort and that gave my phero-signature just the right boost.
I found that TUTH made me a little bit pissed off and on edge. I switched to Ammo and I find that its pretty good but I think I’m going to test out TUTH and only use 1 spray.
I’m 41 and Asian and have been using 2-3 sprays thinking that my own -none production was down.
Is there a product out there that has less -none that TUTH but more than Ammo? I think that would be good for me.
I think Androstenone has its place in the phero line up. Its sexually aggressive though and should not be used as a everyday mix unless buffered correctly like in Ammo. I would not say it is evil though people make it naturally.
I feel its something you need to learn how to use correctly and people just skip that process. Your sending out a clear “I am sexually aggressive” vibe. Do you want to use that vibe at work really or while you shopping in the mall among little kids . No its best used for one on one encounters for after you have developed a comfort level with a person.
P83 is a good alternative but it still dosnt have the sexual kick of Androstenone. Plus you have to consider that mones are not a one size fits all type product. I feel when your making or using a mix with anone you should do as the ladies do with cops. Use them sparingly unless your looking for that aggressive sexual encounter.
Tisha
I will add this note. While I’m not a fan of “pure” or heavy dose androstenone, I do find that I usually DON’T get bad reactions if it’s in a “balanced” mix product like Chikara, Ammunition, etc. In fact I tried an experiment with my aformentioned “defensive” target with PI and a314 in a combo, and had NO bad reactions like I did with her before. But there wasn’t anything overly “positive” with it either. I’ve gotten far better, although minor, “hits” with a mix product like Chikara, Alter Ego, and Ammunition than with any really androstenone-heavy product.
I may be “taking the plunge” one of these days and give TUTH with her just to see what happens there. The type of “buffering” androstenone gets in some products may be critical. Also note that I’m over 50 years old, so am not supposed to be a high natural androstenone producer, yet I think I still need to be careful in my androstenone dosages. Also my “target” age range is 35 or so on up.