Really? Thanks, I’ll look it up 
Geese! Everyone on pherotalk is so helpful!
With the exception of AMMO(and its close), MX272 is the best product I have used. People sometimes underestimate the power of socials. Mx272 helps me turn into the “funny guy”, and seems to make the people around me turn into the audience.
Hi simplyme101,
Firstly, I dont recommend you buy them straight off my own advice, it’s best for you to research a little more. If you were planning on buying them anyway, go for it (it’s a pretty good range of pheros to have in your arsenal regardless). Like I said previously you’ll need to find your own sweet spot for each so try them individually. I know it sounds boring but we all went through that process. And sometimes you’ll find that the putatives can be pretty interesting on their own (P83 and drunkeness is veeeeery interesting 
)
One night stands are a bit more trickier, the mix is really a social mix (one night stands you’d want something a bit more sexual Ammo/TUTH possibly). None will obviously generate more sexual attraction but too much and you’ll lose the possibility of people approaching you. Which kind of defeats the purpose. However, adding none after meeting a girl can work pretty well. I guess in this respect Ammo will suit you fine, unless you want downright hard hitting sexual hits like TUTH or AE but you risk scaring them off.
If I’m completely honest, I dont really do one night stands so I cant really comment on it, if you want phone numbers this is pretty damn good. Although you still have to play the part (not really hard, just relax and have a good time, is enough, unless your surrounded by frigid nuns in which case your testing in the wrong place).
A314 - sounds interesting but I’ve never tried it, doesnt seem coherent in my mind, and feels again you’ll be intimidating them on a respect level.
Regarding the fragrance, if you dont have a fixative (something to slow down the diffusion, like your own perfume or perfume oil) then order with fragrance otherwise you’ll burn through it pretty damn quickly.
Final note, when/if people do approach you then dont expect them to do so out of sexual interest. If your looking for one night stands and girls approaching you to do this, then this mix probably isnt for you. It cant do two things at once unless you add stuff to it.
However, since you are interested in one night stands, I made a mix for a friend who wanted something similar. Obviously it doesnt gaurantee sex (just like any phero product) but it is an interesting one to wear:
None - 7.5mcg
Alphanol - 7.5
TAL -2.5 (increases female forwardness)
P83 - 7.5 mcg (perhaps after you’ve tried the previous three alone)
Now after you’ve experimented with each component you’ll be able to decide whether P83 is going to be useful for you or not. Dont bother with P74 (you want sex not to be the centre of attention). P93 is optional I guess. A1 is another possibility (although, personally I think it’d be a bit creepy, kinda like gaining her trust just to fuck her). Unfortunately and it’s going to seem like I’m a alcoholic at this rate but my friend and I tried this at a bar, he got lucky (I didnt 
) but he’s far better skills with women than I do, so again might not have been the mix
If you do decide to make these mixes, I’d love to hear your reports 
Best of luck.
Rattle
Dude thanks for the advice dude!!! Like you said I have been reading threads around these products and doing some research. I am going to try the social first and in about a month give a shot to the sexual mix.
Just wanted to clarify when you say “none” you mean like AMMO or TUTH or is “none” available as a seprate product?
Thanks for your advice!!
Hi, TUTH has 2.5mcg straight none (and a few other pheros in smaller proportions I believe) whilst Ammo has the same amount but with Rone and Nols to buffer it.
Your age, physical build, race etc will determine how much none you can get away with wearing. Generally speaking if your younger, I’d say wear Ammo over TUTH. You dont need to get none (experimone) in a seperate product, TUTH or Ammo are far better alternatives. Hope this helps
Very happy to hear your going to give the mix a go. One little bit of advise though, once your ready to use the mix, spray each component seperately and let it dry down before spraying. (Dont make the mistake I did of mixing them in a bottle, impossible to accurately change the mcg’s of each component if you do).
And one last little point, try and consistantly wear the product for a few weeks and then compare your results to the pre-testing. If its not working out, or you notice some results but not what you expect, send me a PM and we’ll try and work out a solution. I still have enough of the core ingredients to start testing the mix myself, so I’ll try and report in my own results and we can compare
Rattle
Mr Rattle…what is up dude??
Where can I buy Alphanol?
Thanks,
SM
ExperiMone™ Alpha Androstenol Spray
anol is also the main ingredient in IO. It is 70% alpha and 30% beta with some steerers
I do, PM me your address. Dont worry I wont come over a lick you or anything
Tisha
Hi SM,
As JJ pointed out you can get Alphanol as an experimone or simply use CTTM2 which is a mix of Alpha nol and Beta nol. As you probably know alphanol promotes friendly banter and betanol deeper conversations. For your purposes Alphanol is probably more suitable. Although, CTTM2 works just as well. I wouldnt bother going for both.
Regards
Rattle
Rattle,
Dude Like you mentioned that Ammo and TUTh have abouthas 2.5 mcg of none.. I am assuming per spray
How much does ANOL, TAL and p series have per spray. I just ordered and I am tring to figure out the dosage.
Is it advisable to use any I sereis like IO, IH or IS with the two combos you mentioned?
Thanks bro for all the help
Alphanol - 7.5
TAL -2.5 (increases female forwardness)
Come Talk To Me Mix 2 makes them more likely to talk
P83 makes them more likely to approach you
P74 makes you the one to talk to (cool vibe)
P93 makes them feel good for doing so.
Hi,
Yep, both Ammo and TUTH is 2.5 per spray. Alpnol, TAL and P series can be bought at different dosages per spray, I’m assuming you bought at the standard 2.5 mcg/spray. Thats a good choice for a beginner since it will allow you to have greater control over the amount your spraying (making it easier to find your perfect dosage). Later on if your planning on making a mix that try for the higher dosages.
IO and IH contain Nols and you wont really need to add anymore. IS on the other hand will probably work well for both. In fact, IS works well with everything I have, absolutely love the stuff, unfortunately it burns out pretty quick, so most likely you’ll need to re-apply.
Rattle
Cost permitting for Androtics, I would love to see something like:
“putting a mix say of every single one of the 40 known pheromones (including putatives). Say 0.1 mcg of each one per spray (or per drop of oil). I wonder whether this would mimic more ‘natural’ reactions that people might get from their own pheromones?”
Perhaps such innovative mixes could be made at some stage (cost permitting of course).
tacitus (February 12, 2007):
“Pure pheromeoes and balanced mixes can be drastically different
I think this is because pheromones and para-pheromones must appear in nature in complex bundles, like green tea has caffeine AND theanine which synergize to form a third effect… I’m constantly studying how “softeners” like P74 , Estratatraenol, Alpha Androstenol and Alpha-Androsterone, (and to my mind P86 , others may prefer TAK ) and my old fave response modifier, IsoE-Super, will allow something like P83 to emerge as a “note” instead of an overload… many pure putatives have been to much of unbalanced intensity, like the straaaange but captivating P87 , or “talk show” P84 … man, P84 can do the most outlandish things, you really do feel like you’re, live, on the air… Oprah Spray I tells ya… so I’ve “noted” a sexmix with P84 and had… errrrr… very very talky sex… like fuckafuckafuckafuck… then sit upright in a couple of chairs an talkatalkatalkatalk… then back to… P83 , IN moderation, “buried deep in the mix”… can put a focused, attentive, totally in the moment quality… so it might be great for performers too, say if you wanted a band to practice hard and get their gig super tight you might balance P83 for precision and Estratetraenol for groove…”
tacitus (March 10, 2007):
“Re: Pheromone Mix Recipes
the best thing I’ve learned is to make symphonic mixes with high levels of basics and low levels of accessory pheromones… instead of piling them in at the same concentrations… tiny bits of P83 , P86 , P87 , P88 together give a special twist that is fascinating… some of those small additions add a surprising degree of complexity and richness to the entire experience, where high levels of many of the putatives alone are too exotic for common social use.”
Great idea Vis, the 40 combo mix is a great idea. Although I have a few points to add:
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Seems great for trying to establish a more natural enhancement, the main obstactle though is that no one (as far as I know) has mapped the human phero signature. So we can’t really tell what’s in it and what not.
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Whilst I’m intrigued by Tacticus’s post (will give that a try in the near future), the effects itself may be a little on subtle side. It’s a great idea for balancing or promoting a natural phero sig but alone I’m not sure how useful it would be.
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I totally agree with you regarding the effects of having a pure phero vs the effects of a mix. Sometimes mixes can give you results which you certainly weren’t expecting. Case in point would be P83, whilst on it’s own could sometimes make girls feel self-conscious, with the addition of nols, a touch TAL and None would make them feel uninhibited. Whilst the baseline effect of P83, should in theory remain the same, the interection with other molecules has a different compound effect.
Rattlesnake is right… I tried to hint at that in my post Last week Entitled" Lovescent Vs Andronics"… Social products are needed but here is my point of view how NONE phermones put you over the top… I already knew how to break the ice with woman, how to use body language, How to talk with them, how to make them feel good ETC… I started this reinvention of myself in MAY 2008… In the last year I have spoken to 100’s of girls… I think 4 times I could have became Physical…
With the use of none products like TE, alpha 7, axcite 7, tuth… I have SCORED 2x in the last 2 weeks… These products PUSH the girls to the next level, Where they r giving you major sexual hints… I see obvious hits that take the guesswork out of it… I use social phero for work, around my wife on non sexual days, at family parties… But If you really want to score you need none products..
So what I see myself doing is ordering more none products which andronics does not have.
I’d like to see an all in one kind of product if that’s at all possible. A phero that would at first create a sexual attratction then pull her in and make her want to approach/open you followed by an uninhibitor that would allow her to put her sexual attraction into words and tell you that in no uncertain terms she wants you.
Is that asking a bit much?
I think what you’re looking for is… Instant Miracle.
Bella
MX203 and P83 (inhibition) at 3:1.
When it gets close, slip off for a little TUTH, maybe one more P83.
Actually there are probably several ways to do this.
As long as you keep talkin’ sexy and asking leading questiosns, you’re in like Flint.
Oh wait, you want a sex mix where the ‘man’ does not have to take the lead. A mix with no congruency required. You want pheromones that violate the basic laws of nature.
Sorry bubba, no can do.
OoohYahhh
Disinhibiting social products. I really enjoy the results I get from IH, and think its a great one to try out. I am wanting to get some P83 and/or P74 and combine one of those with IH to see the effects.
But I really enjoy having deep, emotionally intimate conversations with people (not sexual mind you but between friends and family) and want products that can help with that.