the product the most powerful .... ???

Hello, I would like to know what is (or products) is most effective for now attracted to feel excited … a woman.

  • knowing that I am 31 years espanique origin. I tested’’ MAX ATTRACTION GOLD with a content of 17.9 mg of pheromone which costed my + - 90 E. but I tested for 2 weeks in several places but I is nothing to special. I’m not shy but I ery is no reaction to me would suggest that his works.

I would like to know the product or ery pack the most powerful product to convince a woman (in addition to discution course) the excited, the wake, the destabilized …

thank you

The first thing you need to learn about pheros is that powerful does not aways mean best! Be very suspicious of any site telling you otherwise as this is one of the clearest indications you are looking at a bunch of scammers.

The reason you didn’t do well with MAG is probably that it is a very overt Androstenone product that puts most guys into OD very easily - which usually results in them being ghosted, ignored, taken for a horny creep or it can even trigger aggressive responses. TBH, MAG’s overtness makes it very little use in all but the raunchiest clubs/parties etc - places where inhibitions hit the floor and sex is always on the immediate agenda.

You would probably have done far better with a lower-dose androstenone product that was moderated by some social and/or status mones. This triggers a wider range of feelings that combine to make you seem a more interesting, approachable and sexy guy.

Then of course, mones don’t do it all for you - they mesh with your personality, body language and presentation to creat the overall effect. :slight_smile:

thank you for your explanation. I doubted it. but is there a product or combination of products as effication for maximum result view sex as I mentioned above?

There are plenty of products that might help you there.

The best thing you could do now is to have a read of this:

https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934

Then post the info you have given above, along with a bit more about the sort of people you are interested in and your places/opportunities for using pheros, on your own thread in the Intro Forum. That way we have something to give better advice-on and you earn the GC to help start trying stuff. :slight_smile:

thank you for your help but I do not speak English and my disction led thanks google translate’‘’’ I’m from Belgium and I do not want me involved with these specials … I would pay the price.

and to reply to your question. I work at customers to troubleshoot their tv, internet, phone. therefore I visit between 6 and 8 people per day at their home … j’’ I hope you understand … hi. but I took the train, metro … during peak hours + I often leaves the weekend for a drink, dancing …

I would like something ery ery effective for maximum results please. even if it is very hard but I would like result ery see a great great result.

thank you again

AD are well above the average “specials” guys. You can use that $25 towards any products you want and it will help offset the cost of delivery to the EU.

However, if you are going into peoples homes, I would avoid very strong/overt androstenone products as its entirely the wrong environment. Its the chemical equivalent of just taking your cock out - which can worry people!

Something more broad-based social/sexy and masculine like Ammo, with maybe the happy/feelgood IS (or the excellent Summer Ammo combo) would be far better.

With maybe some IG for a smart social status impression or A314 for a much more severe professional status boost.

And think on getting some IO or even MX297 - Social products that would help balance-out your MAG in pubs and clubs. That should help a bit! :slight_smile:

thank you alot for your advice. but for the promotion of 25 … I do not how to do it and does not want me life as complicated as I recall my English through a translator and sometimes the translation goes wrong.

So please soyer clear to me. you can clearly quoted me with a list of products to have for maximum result. I recall I need to see a radical change from the woman in front of me if it is possible.

please, I do not want a mix for the weekend and another mix for the week and another … it is I’m looking for the most effective or more effective than jutiliserait toujour in the same way. thank you

Pheros will not always cause radical changes and the home/working environment is about the hardest place to precipitate such a change. Also, your personality and presentation are still the most important thing - no phero will make someone do what they are not already significantly inclined to do.

However, I’ll stand by Ammo/IS, Summer Ammo on its own, Ammo/IO or Ammo/IG as about the most versatile and widely usable mixes here. Any of these combinations will be useful in just about all situations.

However, there are better combos that can be used in a more targeted manner in more specific situations.

ok thank you very much for your answers, in the meantime I have been seeing in androticsdirect shop and I also find’’ Turn Up The Heat’‘. is that the combination of’’ ‘AMMO’‘’ +‘’‘’ Turn Up The Heat would be? because the most important thing for use at a party with alcohol … I bought pence Sev products.

one more thing, how much pheromone to “Turn Up The Heat”? 2.5 mcg, 5 mcg, 7.5 mcg???

AMMUNITION is AMMO ?

for AMMUNITION, 1x standard strenght? , 2x double strenght?

is what I should order another products more?

I think any sequence order

thank you for your time

Yes, Ammo/TUTH together is just fine for club/party environments and you can transition that from a lighter Ammo or Ammo/Social signature during the day.

TUTH on its own is also very overt and like MAG, it is very sexual - even moreso because of its steering and can go against you in a work/polite environment.

Standard TUTH contains 2.5mcg per spray, which is mainly Androstenone (plus 2 steering pheros)

Standard Ammo contains the same amount of Androstenone (2,5mcg) plus equal amounts of Androstenol and Androsterone to balance it.

The 2x formula has double everything (except scent), and the 3x TUTH has 7.5mcg.

At 31, you are still well in the 1x range. Start and find your best doses with that, then if the number of sprays work out, get the 2x next time. Generally the 2x is intended for guys over 40.

thank you for the advice, I’ll wait until tomorrow to order. but thanks to your advice I’ll opt for commancer by AMMO 1X + THRUT 2.5mcg if I understood and mix depending on what androticsdirect.com me offers to Product Info.

is what I forgetting anything for maximum effect? another product? or more’’ for’’ mcg thrut, ammo .. ??

The other two that would go well are Instant Shine, which is great for feelgood with anything and maybe P83 which would go well with Ammo/TUTH to help promote physical contact. If you are buying 5ml/TOGO sizes, the 12.5mcg dose is good to start with.

Seriously, do not go higher on mcg with TUTH or Ammo until you have found your best dose with the 1x first. Start with one spray and work-up.

You are setting yourself up for failure.

I hope that even when it feels good. if a perfume advise me? ‘’ Akuto, neroli, cookies .. ??? (For a possible custom additions.)

if there are other ideas from members of the forum, its would be welcome.

ok I order tomorrow. aurrait because I can be more questions

thanks you

Stick with the standard FF21 for Ammo and standard 6% Neroli for everything else, otherwise you will be making things a lot more difficult for yourself.

FF21 is the main cologne scent and it smells a bit like Creed’s Green Irish Tweed. I’ll admit that some people don’t like it and I for one get some irritation.

Neroli is a light orange scent that at 6% will dry to a very light/background level after 30 minutes or so and it will complement many cover scents very well.

Mixing is simple - Simply spray your first phero, wait a minute or two for it to dry, then spray the next layer and so-on.

thank you again for your advice. I think I’ll buy all the products (Portable / Travel Size) to see what works best. what do you think? 8 or 9 products!

  • I fancied that androticsdirect was selling a pack? (But I do not find the direct link to purchase)

is what I find all the efficiency I am looking for in this pack? or else is there products more effective if I buy the products separately?

I recall that I seek the most efficient and the price does not bother me knowing that I buy MAG 90 euros alone

sorry again for my English and thank you for following my post thanks you.

The link to the newbie kit is here:

And yes, it covers all the main consumer products, from the most social to the most sexually overt, so you should have a good chance of finding what suits you best

The only other things I’d suggest you get on top of that are a 30ml of Instant Shine - as it is the one you are likely to find yourself using the most and some P83 in the 10-12.5mcg range - which will be very useful alongside a lot of products. However P83 is an experimental product, so the AD consumer line warranty will not apply.

thank you for the advice. but you pack on the beginners would be most effective? sorry to repeat myself but the words beginners suggests to me that it may not be the most effective. I trust you but I hope you have understood my request and what I expect from these products. even if it works better for some than others. ery but I would not give a second time on the silver products can not see very Result as MAG.

I prefer to give even a can of money to buy the products separately if there is a longer Result (over mcg, perfume, scented% …) I certainly do not want to have any regrets in anything as products are pheromonetalk on site. I hope you understand me.

** and thank you very, very much for your advice

No, these are the most effective, best tested and reported-on products in the entire catalogue. The idea of the kit is to offer the full range of products because quite often, the phero that works best for you might not be your initial choice.

AD also offers a double refund if you don’t get results with these but they do ask you get in touch with them directly first to try and work out the best way of using them.

The other ones, the Putatives, Experimones and Test Mixes - are all the experimental products, which are in varying stages of evaluation and you do get a much wider range of results, some are good and well tested (eg P83, MX297), whilst others are still little understood. You have a much greater chance of finding them difficult to use and get unpredictable results with these.

ok i just saw that mx297 is included in the pack so to my order:

  • The Killer Pheromone Newbie Kit (KillerKit)
  • P83 5ml spray 12.5 mcg (mcg not more?) Cookie scent cologne 20% regular strenght?

Another thing work? . is that all? anything else? this is a good choice? I wait for your confirmation before ordering.
is that you know its time to take combient for delivery in belgium?