Whats the best way to pickup chicks with mones?

Right now I only have Chikara and have really never even used it. I tend to get hit on in class(by girls with boyfriends oddly enough) a lot but need more. I want to be able to walk through the mall and pickup girls with out a lot of trouble, and i’m not a champ at approaching girls either. So some advice on how to use this one and the best place to wear it would be awesome. Or even some better products.

There isn’t any best way honestly, the best way is to keep improving yourself, with work, you will start to become a natural at attracting girls :slight_smile:

To start off, you could take a read up on some books from Neil Strauss or Mystery.

Okay I guess my under lying answer was I have some Chikara from http://love-scent.com/chikara-pheromones-pheromone-cologne-for-men-p-69.html and was wondering if it will help.

I have put on 50lbs of muscle in 2 years so trust me I am improving my self, I will be going to a university to box next year so that will also help me with them, lol. Girls gotta love boxers.

With that amount of muscle, bud, you gotta pick 'em up carefully… :smiley: I hadda do it!!! Though, some may like it rough!!

I’ve heard tell that Chikara is similar to AMMO in effects and as a user of AMMO, I can see that it will help tremendously. You have the improvements, the muscle, gals love that, and with the chemical signal of the mone saying sexy man here…

You’ve got it!! :slight_smile:

  1. Confidence. Everyone knows it. If you see something you want, don’t be afraid to go for it. Know yourself, love yourself, and never compromise your own values. Also remember to take care of yourself and dress the part.

  2. Many people will disagree with me on this, but I say forget about all the pick up artist seduction bullshit. I’m not saying it doesn’t work. I just think it’s really lame and you’d probably have a better chance of picking up a girl by just being yourself.

  3. Try to find humor in any situation, even when things are serious. This type of laid-back attitude goes a long way when it comes to connecting with women. Also, don’t beat around the bush when it comes to sex. I don’t mean you should try to sleep with women as quickly as possible, but I think it is good to make your intentions known right away. As long as you can do this in a way that doesn’t come across as creepy or pathetic, you’re good :slight_smile:

  4. Learn to truly love and respect women. Sometimes in our society we are brought up to think of women as sexual objects, THINGS to be “picked up”, fucked, and discarded when we are done. This is the wrong attitude. You might get laid with this kind thinking, but it will backfire in the long run. Take the time to learn what makes women tick. If you can do this, your options will be virtually limitless.

These are good responses.

I think if you’re looking into pheromones to help you pickup women in public, you’re going in the right direction, but you may be expecting them to work in a different way than they actually work. I’m new to pheromones too, but I’m learning very quickly about how they actually affect people.

If you’re interested in pickup and seduction, I wouldn’t take a single step more without reading this post: Pheromones enhance what's already there, they don't change it: a reality check it is tremendously helpful.

This.

I teach a lot of guys the concepts of these often douchey self-proclaimed “PUA Gurus,” and many of their “methods” are centered around LIES, and fabrications of aspects of your personality that may not only not exist, but that you wouldn’t be comfortable having. Anyone, myself included can memorize a bunch of bullshit to get laid, and yes it works, if you’re looking to have no real connection with anyone.

Despite what the “PUA community” claims, in my experience, and many will agree, being yourself is what is best. Of course, with that said, there really are aspects of yourself that might suck, and need changing in order to be successful with women, and there are certain social rules that generally you really do have to follow if you want to be successful with women, like not seeming a clingy whiny guy (not saying that you are, of course, but I learned the hard way) or the “best friend,” which is accomplished by avoiding certain behaviours, and adopting others.

The important part to understand is that pheros are icing on the cake. You’ve got to have a basic foundation for them to work, and you have to be congruent with the emotions and feelings that they invoke, or else they will not produce the effect you desire.

I disagree. Well… Maybe, just to get an understanding of some different perspectives on pickup. Everyone’s got their own style and goals in mind afterall. Neil Strauss I can tolerate, because he at least is mostly honest, and intelligent. “Mystery” as he’s called is literally an insane manic depressive nut job, who teaches you that you have to become a douchebag to get women. His tactics WORK. They do. On a very limited personality type, and age range of women, but they do indeed work for those types of women. But you may find yourself feeling uncomfortable with the fact that you will literally be making shit up to impress women. That’s what it’s centered around.

Just my .02 Good luck.

Thats abit like asking whats the best way to cook a steak

You’ve got to find what works best for you

I will say though, some things are pretty important however you pickup women

Confidence
Not alot is going to work very well at all if you are the opposite of confident

Confidence is one of the biggest things, it might sound cliche, but its actually true, I’ve seen some evidence to suggest confidence alone might be a turn-on for women

The pickup arts - these things work, I wouldnt dissuade anyone from using the pickup arts simply due to the mere existence of the somewhat true issues about the pickup arts described in this thread - none of them are show-stoppers

Hmm maybe 3-4 years ago I did the Mystery Method and got myself a HB9 girlfriend, the problem was she seemed to be in relation to someone who did not exist, which was really not good, even now she’s somehow relating to things i did and said back then which where just fake and not what i identify with

Overall I found being fake with the Mystery Method not really worth it in the end, and not internally satisfying, and you could say its just not fair on a woman to have her fall in love with someone who isnt there

So I do agree with the importance of the genuiness and being yourself raised in this thread, however dont be afraid to fake it till you make if thats what you need to do :wink:

Mystery Method seems to attract the most vocal critics, and alot of the criticisms are real and justified, however it does help to understand the basic principles of why the mystery method works

I literally got 6 LMRs in a row perhaps about 4 - 4.5 years ago, and then I read up on the Mystery Method on why LMR occurs, I applied the principles and then didnt get LMR for ages.

One might actually look at some of the attractive traits described in the MM such as protector of loved ones, thats something I can identify with, and remember back in my childhood taking action to protect loved ones, and a chick I was attracted to in early highschool I punched this guy who kept bullying her and told him to leave her alone lol

As a big guy ballzan you might feel like protecting women and thats just merely one attractive trait you might feel you want, as a big guy you’d be able to deliver on that promise too. Tying that one small little element into pheromones, pherolibrary states “This pheromone also creates an aura of safety, protection and reliability normally associated with a more peaceful alpha male.”, If the safety and protection part iw true, that might tie in nicely with the trait

There are those in the “pickup industry” who teach being genuine and yourself from the very start, e.g. Authentic Man program, and programs like David Deangelo Man Transformation and On Being a Man may help you to be a more confident man, while being yourself (and more manly)

So imo the criticisms of the pickup arts in this thread are basically based in truth, but dont let that dissuade you but its great that you already know now rather than having to find out on your own, and they’re not really that big of a deal ime

You can always “Take what works for you, discard the rest”, the pickup arts work :wink:

The best way is to have a palette of different 'mones that you can use to create the ultimate seductive formula for the situations or dates that you find yourself on. Match your 'mones to the woman you want to seduce and her personality.

wow unniverse what you wrote is completely right, i love the part where you said be yourself and screw all that pua bullshit, sooo true.

Ha thanks, any one have any recommendations on where to spray it and how many sprays, I did one on my neck today but didn’t really see a whole lot of reactions, or just wasn’t paying enough attention.

There is a big college party coming up that I will be going to and thought about mixing chikara(since it is suppose to be like AMMO) with instant openness, but how do I mix, just spray one on top of the other?

Talking about the LMR’s, it wasn’t with sex but we had been hanging out the past couple of weekends (I hadn’t used any mones during this time, just starting with those.) But the next weekend she was busy but said she missed seeing me but then next time I asked she just said no, so I asked why she randomly quit liking me and she says its hard to explain. This was the 4th time its happened with the same chick, any Ideas why? She always comes back!

Wrists, throat, hair… skin applications, on pulse points are always good. Hair seems to have the mones last longer on me with an increase sillage.
If you have to spray on top of each other, let the previous application dry down before applying the next.

Otherwise, top of hands, inner elbow, behind the ear, on forehead, on the jaw line, I can go on and on… :smiley:

Okay I am hitting the mall tomorrow so I will do a spray on the neck and a spray on one of my wrists, is this too much or not enough?

The only way to pick up genuine girls is to have something you are passionate about other than girls. How many times we go to pick up girls and when we do, we are not completely satisfied and we will be looking for the next one and the next. Spending your time with one girl you love with all your heart and she loves you back would be more worthy to you than every other girl that exists in this world. Concentrate on those, you wont be sorry.

God bless

Joe

if you could bottle a pheromone which make women rip your cloths off and have sex with you instantaneously i take a thousand bottles off you and you’d be a millionaire, pheromones don’t work that way, sorry.

I know they don’t work that way and I don’t need them to, just here to learn.

Yes is rather good to have things you are passionate about other than girls, its good in many ways, funnily enough it helps you pickup women too lol

Such a shame though, I’m always on the look out for products that get as close to that effect as possible, I have some game so that always helps

No I dont really know why. If I was there maybe I would know. I have abit of a lack of information :wink:

All guesses: Maybe she is feeling intensely about you?

Maybe I’d say don’t sweat it, and womens emotions do change around a fair bit

Maybe she was actually just busy or something one day

dunno really, any other relevant details?
What did you do before it all happened

I didn’t really do anything, we had hung out the weekend before but now she has a boyfriend which is a total d-bag but I would be willing to put money that once they break up she will be right back to bugging me. I asked her why she randomly stopped liking me and she said it was hard to explain, I’m not sweating it now.

How did you gain so much muscle in 2 years?

I ask because I’m doing P90X, then will do P90X2, then a couple of months of Insanity Asylum, and that adds up to about 9 months. If I do this for 2 years, am I going to have 50 lbs of muscle? Geez…

HAHA just curious…