Basically is there a pheromone or pheromones that can help or that can get my close friend be all close physically, and possibly get feely and touchy? (I am in the friend zone.) complicated.
ammo and instant honesty… with a tad bit of shine perhaps? 
I think that would just about do it
haven’t tried it myself but several posts indicate that a combo of P86 and P83, has an effect like that. Probably enhanced if done with the products Des mentioned
alrightt, thanks, is there any others? other than outta the Instant, Tuth, and Ammo line? I read a post by someone on this forum where there was one different type of mone or mix or something that they used which got them all close
Thankss rad, is it ever possible where too much pheromones sprayed together, you would say, would negate the effect or work in a different direction or would not send the proper message?
I would imagine so. I never had that happen personally but I haven’t’ been using mones very long. I think that if you know what you want to achieve it’s a matter of the right mones in the right ratio’s to get them to either compliment or buffer the effects of others.
That can absolutely happen, but you should be relatively safe inside of the consumer line. I might not combine something like IG + ammo, as it might kill off the sexual edge of ammo. It could also happen if you dose something like A314 or ammo in anol. It sort of weakens the effect. You can use this both to your advantage and disadvantage, so figure it out and have fun!
thanks all of u
2.5x aMMO + 0.5x TUTH+ 3x IH + 1.5 IS
cool, think that TUTH might scare her off? She has a traditional point of view.. but yeah she is a girl lol.. this other guy who is in the middle of this, lets just say he tried things (such as touching hands, trying to kiss when she is crying..) with her, and she basically rejected all of that.. *yet she did talk to him after that after him saying he wont do it again..
she never had feelings for anyone, supposedly..
Well i guess i can never tell until i try but, what u think?
EDIT: Also, if you guys know any tips of me showing her some affection, not saying kissing n stuff, i wouldnt even really try that without being official, really, though i wouldnt do anything until its official, i’ve been in this mess since past couple years.. long time but its my first time, any tips, pointers, always welcomed
cool, think that TUTH might scare her off? She has a traditional point of view.. but yeah she is a girl lol.. this other guy who is in the middle of this, lets just say he tried things (such as touching hands, trying to kiss when she is crying..) with her, and she basically rejected all of that.. *yet she did talk to him after that after him saying he wont do it again..
she never had feelings for anyone, supposedly..
Well i guess i can never tell until i try but, what u think?
EDIT: Also, if you guys know any tips of me showing her some affection, not saying kissing n stuff, i wouldnt even really try that without being official, really, though i wouldnt do anything until its official, i’ve been in this mess since past couple years.. long time but its my first time, any tips, pointers, always welcomed
You want the girl touching you ?
3 x MX353 (should be back in stock soon)
2x IG
40mcg A1
5 sprays Liquid Trust
100mcg Meo Est
40mcg P83
she will stick like glue on you …
if this dont work … then noting works …
Pago
I love the recommendation but thats above and beyond for a newer user…
Olfact Amorous
you´re right … that´s a tough one .. lot of stuff for a newbee !
look he´s stuck in the friendship zone 
and i hope for him that he´s not suffering from oneitis …
… i could recommend as well to go to some seduction seminars … buy all stuff from the gurus … do some courses on hypnosis and NLP … get anything you can get about body language and so on …
You can try it first with an easier version this means IG and P83
which should get you forwards …
Pago
thanks pago and ol
umm im kinda confused 
but if i get u right
ur in the FZ, trying to get out of the FZ and into a relationship?
and she not the type of girl that likes sexual stuff?
i say good luck
find a different girl and dont get FZd.
but what mones, ull want a sexual spark with a trustworthy feel sounds like
id try IG and a bit of tuth.
i prolly not the best to answer, i have problems with the approach, once i get past that i score. i mainly use mones for the attraction/opening and wild nights in bed 
I was thinking the same thing. and ffs who puts on more than 1 series of MX?
At that point you’re painting black. (the effect you get when you put too many colors on a canvas) The brain can only register so much…
This board has gotten nerded out man lol.
AMMO and Ishine should be enough
Ammo has beta and a-nol, If you need to soften it up more, try CTTM. It’s not called ‘come talk to me’ for nothing. It’ll up the beta and a-nol mcg of the AMMO.
I have used the following with good results:
2x IO + 2x IH + 2x TUTH
I say K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple Stupid). You don’t know how she’ll react to the mones initially and it may take a couple times hanging out before she gets comfortable to go further. Don’t want to overwhelm her with tons of mones the first time as she won’t know what to do.
It’s VERY possible to get out of the friend zone, one girl actually FZ’d me before but the way I got out was wearing A314 almost everyday around her and also some MX302. I also continued talking to other girls and finally a month later she told me to ask her out again and this time she accepted.
So my recommendation is A314, A1, CTTM, and maybe some Instant Shine. However I agree with bedojo, don’t focus on her and continue talking to other girls. If she doesn’t come around, then forget about it.
definitely want to try this out, TUTH maybe too strong for this girl?, she doesn’t seem to be getting the possibility of having A boyfriend from me atleast.. if not anyone. Good idea on the trying it out couple times before going further.
What does TUTH exactly do in her mind?