Lets hope there’s going to be a full moon. I’m one of the women who run with the wolves. You’ll love the Cops Bomb mix Ail.
May the Mones be Whiff you
Well as long as you are still “playing” several days later, you’ll be fine, as the next full moon is the 5th November, Countess..^_~
..which for us here in the UK, is Bonfire Night - better known as Guy Fawkes’ Night.
I don’t think you celebrate Guy Fawkes in the US though..I am sure someone told me you don’t. I for one, will have fireworks a-plenty going off on that night. 
Okies, I just made up your mixture in an old Cleo bottle, then transferred it to an old clean PCC bottle for ease of use.
I like to be able to just throw a bottle with my mix into my handbag, and that mixture was an ideal candidate.
Thanks again, Countess!
Ail
Quite right. 
Would be sort of like you celebrating the 4th of July.
There are some people here in the U.S. that would like to do a “Guy Fawkes” in Washington D.C. …
Elections are coming up. Whee! (it means the END of all these awful political commercials and mailings!)
Cops DO work for men … Not by themselves, but definitely in symphonic mixes. And not just with bi-sexual or ovulating women. Trust me … Jasmin can vouch for me
Yea I agree with Sigma entirely - thank gosh I am not the only one who thinks like that. And remember Sigma is a guy who can ‘get away’ with wearing a lot of Androstenone so if he thinks like that, then it isn’t just the problem of ‘lone wolves/clint eastwoods’ like me.
We should focus here on outcomes and not just ‘hits’. Androstenone may deliver the powerful ‘sexual hits’ on occassion (and great sex too! ) but it is meaningless if things dont last and connections with people are broken (which happens a lot when I wear Androstenone for example). Well I guess it may help with one night stands with ovulating women (if her non-ovulating friends dont $*% it up for the Androstenone wearer) and spicing things up with a girlfriend on occassion, but other than that the stuff is more trouble than it is worth. Sure its fun to see ovulating women getting aroused but what benefits does it really provide?
It seems to have special status as the ‘sexual pheromone’ because:
- it has been the only contender for this title since synthetic pheromones were developed - only in the last year have we got new pheromones that actually make women aroused;
- when you hit the sweet spot and it works it seems to be the closest thing to what people idealise as to what pheromones are supposed to do - drive women wild with passion and lust for the wearer. Big but though - results are so hard to replicate.
Since it has been around for a decade or more and a lot of people are still finding it terribly difficult to work with on a regular basis, why continue to bother with it when Androtics are offering so many new Androstenone-free products. My opinion is if we want real ‘progress’, we should learn how to work with all the tools that we have been blessed to get in the last year from Androtics without the bother of wearing Androstenone, which seems to alienate a large chunk of the population.
I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t want to spend my hard-earned cash on getting a mixture of positive and negative hits (which invariably happens with Androstenone). When I spend money on pheromones, I want positive all the way!
Visionary
Visionary, I was just wondering, if you been using many phero’s other than Anone, did you find any of those to be as dose-sensitive or even dose-critical that you can think of, similar to how Anone behaves ?
I think I was a bit misguided when I used to say that ‘i can get away with more none’. That implies that more none is better, which really it usually isn’t…sometimes it is, but most of the time its not. It did take me more none to produce the types of effects I was going for with it, and yeah I burned through NPA bottles rather quickly. Of course it also took more none to produce the negative effects, however, the line between a good amount of none and a bad amount seem to blur into each other. I’ve OD’d a couple of times trying replicate a mix that I might have had success with previously.
The problem I have with none for everyday use, is that the negative effects are highly counter-active to the biggest benefit that pheromones provide: opening people up. Pheromones work well by opening people sexually, socially, professionally, or emotionally/romantically. They create windows of opportunity that might not have otherwise presented themselves. If a pheromone puts someone off and closes them off, its hard(er) to make any progress. And it really is easier said than done to try to ‘play off’ a bad none OD by making an effort to be more open and inviting. Its really pretty frustrating when it happens.
Mak, I have not had a chance to try out too many putatives so far but from my forum reading and PMs:
- ‘P76’ is said to be dose-critical too and similar to Androstenone (do a search for SwingerMD’s posts on this one);
- ‘Androstenedione’ may be dose-critical too as it is said to be similar to ANone and perhaps is one of the ‘secret’ actives in certain pheromone products. It is meant to be sexual but slow burning and without the harshness of Androstenone. Unfortunately it is not legal in the US. I don’t want to say anymore as I do not know if it is okay to talk about it.
- ‘Testosterone’ itself is ment to be a powerful masculine pheromone when worn on the skin. Unfortunately i do not know if this is legal and where to get some and use it safely, so that it does not screw up your internal hormone levels.
I guess all pheromones are dose sensitive to some extent though in that if you OD you risk some kind of negative result although these are mostly harmless in comparison to the aggression and problems that ANone ODs create.
Visionary
Also there is another putative pheromone, ‘P80’, which should arrive at my address soon and which I will thoroughly evaluate and report back on. According to Tacitus’ tests, P80 is another dose-critical ‘alpha mone’. Apparently in low doses it sets a ‘floor’ to a mix (gives the vibe of someone high ranking, perhaps a colonel). However in high doses Tacitus wrote that it scared girls away - made them think of big cops or something like that. Anyway I have ordered the 2.5 mcg/spray bottle so I will start low with that one as per the great man Tacitus’ suggestion. I will also try to combine it with Androsterone as well. I will compare this all to Androstenone and A314.
I do remember also Michael Harris mentioned to go low (be careful with them) on the Putatives 75-77 as they may be similar to Androstenone. Well I have mentioned 'P76 'in the above post, while ‘P77’ has only been tried on its own by SwingerMD and he reported no results from it at all (well maybe someone else has tried it but has not reported anything).
With regards to P75, Homura has tried that one and has said in a recent post that it causes even more aggression from men than Androstenone and makes the male wearer feel terrible as well. It may be effective though for magnetism from women (SwingerMD has mentioned this effect in his dance classes).
Hehe yeah I like collecting information especially on putative pheromones !
Mak, I noticed that you are also from Australia. Where in Oz are you?
Visionary
Visionary, I’m in Sydney, the land of tolls. Any idea why Canberra women are that sensational ?
As for putatives, that is actually far ahead of me. I usually take a long time to work out how any one released product work, then uncomplicated mixes. I like to ‘relate’ a product to me and my environment, if that makes sense.
I’ll be quite old by the time I even went thru the normal released lot.
Better late than never… my take on the answer to your question.
From what I understand, it’s all about those eggs. When they’re available, she’ll respond to androstenone, and when they’re not, she’ll clear out.
With men, sperm are being produced constantly, so he’s always “on”. Copulins are therefore always uniformly attractive, because he’s always ready to inseminate a woman.
As for men wearing copulins around heterosexual women… only wear traces. And don’t expect good results from heterosexual women unless they’re very young, very competitive, single, or their biological clock is ticking. Heterosexual women who are involved, and those who are not in their “I want him just because you want him” years, generally shy away from a man who smells of copulins.
I haven’t done any research into wearing copulins around a heterosexual woman who is ovulating.
Just to clarify; I’m speaking of men wearing Anone, women wearing cops.
I tend to accept that ovulation plays a part, but that doesn’t seem to be all there is.
Actually, what I wanted to find out was, if the female’s 7th sense of (subconcious) smell is as selective as her normal sense of smell.
My guess ?, it is not .. It is as primitive as a man’s.
I know it is not all that flattering (I’ll buy the lunch next time), but I think I saw it happen to a steady degree.
For/against opinions ?.
I concur. Ovulation is only one of many variables to consider. One if the most influential, but only one.
The subconscious isn’t like the conscious. It’s job, in large part, is to record. But I don’t think the subconscious is what you’re wondering about. The subconscious records and notices, even things that the conscious cannot or does not. The genes and lizard brain also play a large part, basically how the information is dealt with. And the lizard brain is still running that primal “reproduce” program, just without the conscious ASD filters.
So I suppose I agree, it is is as primitive as a man’s.