A couple of meetings & an interesting reaction

Hi all,

I wonder if anyone could tell me if this is “normal”. I’m still new at these mixes, and this was kinda odd.

I’m 56, male, white.

I’ve been trying to sort out the dosage of A314 recently, but today had a couple of out-of-the-office meetings. I decided to experiment. These were not critical meetings, so I figured it was a good opportunity to test things out. Here’s what I did -

3 drops of A314 oil. 1 behind each ear, one split between both wrists.
2 sprays of IS at the elbows.
1 spray of IH at the base of the neck.
The sprays are all from to-go bottles, and I’m not sure how many mcg they might be.

1st meeting - Nothing. had close conversation with 1F, late 30’s (Hispanic, I think, but it was hard to tell). Other not so close interactions with a mix of M & F, all in their 40’s and 50’s. Nothin’.

Retail stop - 2M, 1F, all mid-20s. Nothing. But I’m pretty sure the F was pregnant and that may have “thrown her off the scent”, so to speak.

2nd meeting - had conversations with a mix of people, but three stood out. Two were blonds, one mid 20’s, one early 30’s. The conversations were close enough that they would have been in the cloud. Nothing. I only mention these two because of what happened later. There were also other scattered conversations with M & F, ages varied into 50’s. Nothing.

But the waitress I had reacted very oddly. She was very young - maybe 22 at most (really, I’d give even odds she was 19 or 20). She was white and a very dark brunette. I’ve never seen the deer-in-the-headlights reaction until today. I ordered a drink and she spaced in the middle of the order and I had to repeat it (and all I asked for was water with just a little ice). Then she couldn’t make change for a $20 when she brought me the drink; I had to help her through counting the change. Then she started talking and didn’t stop for a good 30 or 40 seconds. In the middle of all that, she starts twirling her hair and her pupils dilate. She lingered some time more than she probably should have as well. Then she went off to other tables. I talked to her again later and she was starting to withdraw. By the time I left, she was distant and almost aloof; I’d almost say embarrassed, but at that point I didn’t talk to her long enough to get a good read.

(And just for the record, I wasn’t trying to have any “game” with her at all. I didn’t actually think I’d be talking to her for more than the time it took to order a drink. And I have a daughter her age, so it was all a little weird when it’s so unexpected.)

Does this kind of mix typically hit 20-somethings like this? Or 20-something brunettes? I thought they’d be run-off by the A314 more than anything else. What exactly happened here?

I love love LOVE this incident :stuck_out_tongue: Yes it is an interesting reaction to be sure but be prepared to have this happen again! IME a heavier dose of A314 (say 3-4 drops) on an older man (myself included) hits heavy on younger women 16-24 YO regardless of hair color; this same dose of A314 on a younger man in his 20’s would actually ‘ghost’ him with younger babes as it would be perceived as an incongruent overload, yet on you it is very congruent & impressive. :wink:

I believe the addition of IS ‘moderated’ the heavy status vibe of the A314 & gave you the aura of an approachable god, but the initial reaction on her part was the DIHL reaction since she had never encountered your awesome sauce vibe before & she was overwhelmed by the aura of your presence!

As she gathered herself the IH took it’s toll on her as well & she lingered longer than necessary & engaged in chit chat that she probably had little control over or even awareness of her babbling :smiley:

Younger girls 16-24 are particularly susceptible to this mone mix on an older man (yes even us studs in our mid-late 50’s & beyond):slight_smile: & you should wear this same mix again & see how this reaction is replicated in younger women. It is harder to elicit a DIHL in an older woman in her 40’s & 50’s but they are more likely to be more direct with you and willing to take a tumble :cool:

Personally I love wearing a mone mix that overwhelms younger women & when I see the DIHL I stick around & engage her in personal conversation, gently steering the convo to sexual matters as the opportunity arises. IME the reason your young brunette cooled off was because she was shocked at her reaction to you as it didn’t fit into her wheelhouse of usual attraction & she felt funny about how she lost control around you…yes she was embarrassed by her unexplainable feelings for the man with the je ne sais quo :wink: :confused:

See how fun mones can be sir! My suggestion; lather, rinse, repeat…& REPORT! Happy hunting boss :smiley:

That’s a solid mix, you should definitely wear the same mix another couple of times in various social situations, this will teach you a lot about how this mix works for you.

And great hit on the waitress! Although I’m a decade ‘younger’ (if you can even call it that by now haha) than you, I see hits from A314 in girls from about 18 and upwards.

I think it’s more a question of some girls/women respond really well to the AndrosteRONE-signature, regardless of their age, whereas some girls/women are much more into high-AndrosteNONE. Different strokes.

With A314 some hits are quite subtle and some, like your waitress, are very blatant. At least you got confirmation that you’re pheromone mix really DO work!

So just get back out there in the trenches and test and report back here what you learn, we can all benefit from your experiences :slight_smile:

That’s a good mix that I have often used in professional situations with good results. The only difference is that I’d maybe use two sprays of IH instead of one.

Pregnant/menstruating women can display widely differing results to pheros but as there isn’t a lot of None in that mix, it isn’t so likely you would get the seriously bad reactions. I would normally add a bit of None/sexual to it out of the work environment but if you were dealing with mainly mature women, there is a lot of moderation potential in that mix so you could get away with a little extra None even at work. :slight_smile:

IME, IH/IS is indeed a good combination for helping younger women to get close/open-up to you but their reactions to A314 can be unpredictable - IME, whilst a lot do react, they most-often get something very different from A314 compared to more mature women, more authority/fatherly/look-up to. This isn’t a bad thing in mixes of course but IMO normally needs to be kept in check/balanced by being used in a steering role to more social/sexy products - but when you do meet a young woman who tunes-in to A314 on an attraction level, the responses tend to be right-off the scale. Its kind-of an exception that proves the rule situation. :slight_smile:

The drawing back/embarrassment thing is also a reaction I’ve noticed - Often if your not “her type” or in an inappropriate situation (e.g. at work), the girl concerned can’t reconcile her sudden gush of attraction and pulls-back emotionally. Less inhibited environments offset this.

So all-in, a good set of hits :slight_smile:

Thanks to all of you for the replies.

Attracting 20 year olds wasn’t really what I had in mind when I started this, to be honest, so this is very helpful info. I assumed the reaction from someone that young would be more along the father-figure lines, and didn’t think an overt sexual reaction would really be possible.

Out of curiosity, how often does something like this happen?

And as a side question, have you ever taken advantage of the situation (and for guys in their 20’s or early 30’s, maybe this question doesn’t count)?

I don’t think I’d ever want to take advantage of this kind of situation and get physical with a 20 something, but my male ego certainly enjoyed the stroke. :slight_smile:

I don’t think I want to risk something like that. My current work environment is…odd. There are a ton of women here that graduated from college within the last couple of years. The managers are anywhere from 35 to 55, in general, but there is a large percentage of what appear to be sorority girls working here. From a managerial point of view (none of them report to me), it leads to a lot of weird clique-ish-ness, and I’m quite lucky to observe from a distance rather than directly manage.

If there were a couple of bad reactions it could turn this place into a cat-fighting hell. Not worth the risk.

With A314-based mixes, maybe a dozen or-so times in the last five years.

With other mixes, notably involving P130 or Summer Ammo, much more common.

Same here. I’m not looking to hook-up with or (god-forbid) get into anything more serious with someone that young but its very good for the grizzled-old ego..! :smiley:

Yup - Similar here. Its the reason I backed-off A314/IH/P74 mixes for regular use at work as its fallout/bonding properties were collecting women and getting me noticed in all the wrong ways. Still keep it for strategic use though as its a superb combo for dealing with very difficult people. :slight_smile: