A Huge Hello From A Excited 18 From Scotland!

[ryanryan]

A big hello to all,

My name is Ryan; I am an ambitious 18 year old from Scotland and I am totally new to pheromones, I have heard about them but it’s not until today (right now, actually) that I have decided that I wanted to pursue my knowledge and experience of them.

Anyway, I would like to share a little about myself: Like I said, my name is Ryan and I am a self-employed internet marketer, now I have being very successful with my career, while all my friends are just starting out with what they want to do with their lives and working up their career ladder, I am already fairly high in mine.

I can tell that people respect me ( I respect everyone unless they give me a reason not to) and probably due to what people like to look at as “social-status” ( Me earning a lot of money, friends are always asking me about my job, saying that they think it’s crazy that I have so much, so young - but I don’t look at it as luck or anything, I have worked harder than anyone I know to get where I am)

I can also tell some people are intimadated by me, I am in to bodybuilding - I am about 175 lbs, 10% bodyfat and 5 foot 8. They seem to think seeing as a I have nice body that I am going to be a jerk or something haha.

I am comfident on the outside, I am a business man so I know how to perceive myself on a certain way on the outside, but like everyone else I have my insecurities.

Also, I think it might be important to add that girls that know me think I am a player, I’ve had a lot of one night stands which I think are directly related to my personality and status as I am not a unbelievably good-looking guy (been told I am around 7/10).

And that brings me to the reason I wanted to try these phermones; there is a girl that I am crazy about and have been for a while, she is what i would consider my “dream-girl”; everything about her is just perfect to me (without sounding to mushy, haha!)

Anyway, we talk all the time… We flirt, we’ve kissed, she has told me numerous times that no guy is ever as nice to her and that there is just something special about me etc etc.. Which is great and everything, but every single time that I try to innotiate something serious, or even mention I care about her she just throws a huge front up.

I know why she does it, she has had her heartbroken, the first boy she ever fell for blatantly told her that he used her to make his ex jealous and it left her a mess and not trusting guys.

So, if I’m reading the signals right, she has something for me but is scared to let me in incase I hurt her and probably the “player-status” seems to make her think the same would happen again.

Which it wouldn’t, haha.

I wanted to try phermones to see if it would help with her opening up around me, or seeing what kind of behaviour it would bring on and such, not just woth her but with others and myself.

Basically, to have some fun and experiment. But I know I have to do my fair share of research and devlopment until I find out whats going to be the best and what works for me etc.

Anyway, I’ll end this here; this was just a big hello from sunny Scotland (LOL!!) and to see what all you guys would recommend for my situation and such.

Thanks for reading,
Ryan

[1Alpha]

Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum! There another sunny Scotland user, the most respected Mobocaster, who should be around shortly as he doesn’t wander far from the Intro forum.

I would be inclined, because of her looking at ya as a ‘playa’, IShine for a comforting vibe along with IH for a feel of intimate conversations with you. These would be 2 that I would recommend for you. Some may question the validity of using IO in this case and I’d suggest that it’s not as effective, as it looks like you already have some relationship with her, you just want to take it beyond a familiarity.

THOUGH, you will have to be congruent with that mone signature and NOT be that player that may scare her off.

Please, tell us how it went!

1Alpha

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[ryanryan]

@1Alpha

Hi Ryan, welcome to the forum! There another sunny Scotland user, the most respected Mobocaster, who should be around shortly as he doesn’t wander far from the Intro forum.

I would be inclined, because of her looking at ya as a ‘playa’, IShine for a comforting vibe along with IH for a feel of intimate conversations with you. These would be 2 that I would recommend for you. Some may question the validity of using IO in this case and I’d suggest that it’s not as effective, as it looks like you already have some relationship with her, you just want to take it beyond a familiarity.

THOUGH, you will have to be congruent with that mone signature and NOT be that player that may scare her off.

Please, tell us how it went!

1Alpha

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Thanks for taking the time to answer this for me!

I’ve done a little research myself and I was actually leaning towards IS and IH, as it seems like this is what will be needed.

But, what happens with the said girl is it seems like we will be getting really close and then as soon as I mention something more than the friendship we have at the moment; it seems like it’s pushing her away from me.

Like she doesn’t want to hear it, I don’t know. Difficult situation.

I was going to order 3 anyway, as a third what would you suggest? This will be more sort of “fun”, just something to try out.

What do you like?

[ballzan]

@ryanryan

Thanks for taking the time to answer this for me!

I’ve done a little research myself and I was actually leaning towards IS and IH, as it seems like this is what will be needed.

But, what happens with the said girl is it seems like we will be getting really close and then as soon as I mention something more than the friendship we have at the moment; it seems like it’s pushing her away from me.

Like she doesn’t want to hear it, I don’t know. Difficult situation.

I was going to order 3 anyway, as a third what would you suggest? This will be more sort of “fun”, just something to try out.

What do you like?

Well some Instant Gentleman would probably take you away from seeming like a player. Anything like Ammo would probably just increase those feelings with her and set you back.

[mobocaster]

Welcome to Pherotalk Ryan!

I agree about IS, IH and IG being good pheros to be using in your situation. Especially as your description suggests someone with a lot of natural status/presence, which could mean that the higher-status A314 might be a bit too much/too severe/too far out of her reach - and to younger women, A314 can come-off a bit “dad”-like. Not so good. However it may prove very useful in your commercial enerprises in future, which is its natural element - so don’t rule it out altogether.

You also sound like you don’t need a great deal of extra none as your physique suggests an excellent natural level. However, if Summer Ammo is still on sale, you might do very well with a little of that. Its a more social/laid-back and comforting kind of sexy phero which might help soften your considerable physical impact. As well as the standard none, rone and nol, Summer Ammo contains TAA (main component of IS) and P130 - an experimental molecule that is shaping-up as a good comforting/moderating phero around none, especially around younger women. In fact it has given me a few surprises with more mature-tuned high none mixes and younger women when normally I would expect them to pull back from me. Summer Ammo also has by far the better scent, that is also more suited to European tastes and goes very well with IS (not so much needed)/IH (steers it somewhere good/close/shared)/ and IG (smart, cool, hi-status and sexy).

And that brings me to the reason I wanted to try these phermones; there is a girl that I am crazy about and have been for a while, she is what i would consider my “dream-girl”; everything about her is just perfect to me (without sounding to mushy, haha!)

Anyway, we talk all the time… We flirt, we’ve kissed, she has told me numerous times that no guy is ever as nice to her and that there is just something special about me etc etc.. Which is great and everything, but every single time that I try to innotiate something serious, or even mention I care about her she just throws a huge front up.

This does concern me - she may be your ideal woman but are you running the risk of being just too available/accomodating and over-responsive to her? Sometimes you might find that stepping back and letting her miss you a bit is a better way?

Equally, too much cuddling “you’re special” etc can be the wrong sort of validation and if she has you round her little finger in other ways, it will not turn sexual as she’s getting all the validation she needs without it. Eventually she will look elsewhere for the tension and excitement you need to be creating apace (and you don’t need to be a “jerk” to do that, oh no!) There are some pretty good threads on building tension/attraction here if you search - Tisha and Radman are two posters you should look-up.

[ryanryan]

@mobocaster

Welcome to Pherotalk Ryan!

I agree about IS, IH and IG being good pheros to be using in your situation. Especially as your description suggests someone with a lot of natural status/presence, which could mean that the higher-status A314 might be a bit too much/too severe/too far out of her reach - and to younger women, A314 can come-off a bit “dad”-like. Not so good. However it may prove very useful in your commercial enerprises in future, which is its natural element - so don’t rule it out altogether.

You also sound like you don’t need a great deal of extra none as your physique suggests an excellent natural level. However, if Summer Ammo is still on sale, you might do very well with a little of that. Its a more social/laid-back and comforting kind of sexy phero which might help soften your considerable physical impact. As well as the standard none, rone and nol, Summer Ammo contains TAA (main component of IS) and P130 - an experimental molecule that is shaping-up as a good comforting/moderating phero around none, especially around younger women. In fact it has given me a few surprises with more mature-tuned high none mixes and younger women when normally I would expect them to pull back from me. Summer Ammo also has by far the better scent, that is also more suited to European tastes and goes very well with IS (not so much needed)/IH (steers it somewhere good/close/shared)/ and IG (smart, cool, hi-status and sexy).

This does concern me - she may be your ideal woman but are you running the risk of being just too available/accomodating and over-responsive to her? Sometimes you might find that stepping back and letting her miss you a bit is a better way?

Equally, too much cuddling “you’re special” etc can be the wrong sort of validation and if she has you round her little finger in other ways, it will not turn sexual as she’s getting all the validation she needs without it. Eventually she will look elsewhere for the tension and excitement you need to be creating apace (and you don’t need to be a “jerk” to do that, oh no!) There are some pretty good threads on building tension/attraction here if you search - Tisha and Radman are two posters you should look-up.

Thanks for taking your time to write all this out, I really do appreciate it!

Thanks for the advice about what scents to use etc, I am thinking about purchasing IS and IH, still undecided about a third.

I understand where you are coming from about the validation etc, and the truth is I agree with you.

I understand though, I don’t give her to much validation etc.. etc.. I know she is already attracted to me, and we have a connection, it’s just about the front thing I worry about.

I just thought that these phermones would help, and be a fun experiment.

As a third one for fun, what do you recommend?

Also, am I going to receive a gift card to my email? Not sure if I qualify or not, haha.

[1Alpha]

Yes, IG would be a good one as well to round out your 3 mones.

As for the GC, when I first posted, it took a couple of days before I got my GC in my email inbox. I got that on my 3rd day, I think. It’s been a couple of years now, bud, so don’t hold it against me!

Mickaelia will be around, or another admin of this site, and post up a response to your thread soon.

[ryanryan]

@1Alpha

Yes, IG would be a good one as well to round out your 3 mones.

As for the GC, when I first posted, it took a couple of days before I got my GC in my email inbox. I got that on my 3rd day, I think. It’s been a couple of years now, bud, so don’t hold it against me!

Mickaelia will be around, or another admin of this site, and post up a response to your thread soon.

Thanks mate, I appreciate it!

I’ll do a little research and see what seems like it could be a fun thing to use!

Have you ever noticed your same sex friends acting differently when you’ve been using different mones?

[1Alpha]

Yes, with too much IShine, for example, they as well as gals, may get a bit loopy. Frankly, so will I!

Too much IO with IShine with some guy friends will have them comfortable, talking to me endlessly… can be a bit tiring…

I do think that IG will be the mone product you should get for your girl. Along with the IShine and IH.

1Alpha

[ryanryan]

@1Alpha

Yes, with too much IShine, for example, they as well as gals, may get a bit loopy. Frankly, so will I!

Too much IO with IShine with some guy friends will have them comfortable, talking to me endlessly… can be a bit tiring…

I do think that IG will be the mone product you should get for your girl. Along with the IShine and IH.

1Alpha

Loopy, in a good or bad way? (If there is a good way ofcourse, lol)

Yeah, think I’m going to order IG, IS, and IH for the original reason and then TUTH just for a bit of experimenting.

Thanks for all the help, btw.

[mobocaster]

@ryanryan

Thanks for the advice about what scents to use etc, I am thinking about purchasing IS and IH, still undecided about a third.

As a third one for fun, what do you recommend?

Also, am I going to receive a gift card to my email? Not sure if I qualify or not, haha.

All the Instants and TUTH are in Neroli - a loght (6%) orange scent that settles very light by about half an hour after application and sits well with just about any good cologne or other stronger phero scent. The individual pheros in each mix do cause a slight variation in scent between products.

If you are wanting to take a punt on something, I’d suggest you try some P83. Its an experimental product, so no warranty but it is well tested and found to be lightly disinhibiting and can help with getting physical. Put 20mcg+ on with your mix when around her and initiate - See what happens! Don’t wear it at times when you are not going to get the opportunity to initiate kino/get more physical though.

Keep an eye on your inbox and spam filter - GCs can get caught. Mickaelia issues them personally and is usually round every couple of days.

High dose IS and alphanol (IO) can be fun but you may end-up feeling a bit drained/burned out after a few hours/topups. Rest and good food/break the booze a bit will help you recover.

[ryanryan]

@mobocaster

All the Instants and TUTH are in Neroli - a loght (6%) orange scent that settles very light by about half an hour after application and sits well with just about any good cologne or other stronger phero scent. The individual pheros in each mix do cause a slight variation in scent between products.

If you are wanting to take a punt on something, I’d suggest you try some P83. Its an experimental product, so no warranty but it is well tested and found to be lightly disinhibiting and can help with getting physical. Put 20mcg+ on with your mix when around her and initiate - See what happens! Don’t wear it at times when you are not going to get the opportunity to initiate kino/get more physical though.

Keep an eye on your inbox and spam filter - GCs can get caught. Mickaelia issues them personally and is usually round every couple of days.

High dose IS and alphanol (IO) can be fun but you may end-up feeling a bit drained/burned out after a few hours/topups. Rest and good food/break the booze a bit will help you recover.

Just got the gift card there… Thanks again for your help.

I’ll be ordering: IG, IS, IH and some TUTH.

I’ll test these out a bit, and from there go for some of the experimental mixes.

You guys are great here.

[Kelsey]

Welcome Ryanryan,

I am super glad you got that gift certificate!

Yes, these guys are awesome and I can’t do my job so well on the forum and have time to do other stuff without their superb assistance.

Try to find the right balance with the mones and your approach with this girl.You will be fine.

Your gc was issued!