A Male Celebrity Icon's Secret Weapon

He was the king of cool, a real confident guy and quite the lady-killer. He raced a dark green 1968 Mustang GT down the streets of San Francisco in the film Bullitt and escaped from a Nazi concentration camp in The Great Escape. Guy’s wanted to be him and women wanted to be with him.

That’s right folks, the iconic Steve McQueen.

I read an interesting article the other day about what was perhaps a secret weapon that assisted his natural charisma and magnetism to women.


With his ice cool demeanor and smoldering good looks it is no surprise that the actor Steve McQueen was attractive to women.

But new research suggests he may have a little help from his aftershave.

McQueen was known for wearing Christian Dior’s Eau Sauvage, and scientists have discovered that a chemical in the cologne stimulates an area of the brain which is responsible for releasing sex hormones in women. Based on the evidence, it appears that the aftershave can, literally, turn women on.

Although it has long been debated whether humans can actually communicate via pheromones - the chemical signals secreted by animals to help find a mate - researchers have found that scent of Hedione generates ‘sex-specific activation patterns’ in the nasal tissue which links to the brain.

It is the first time that a scent has been known to activate the pheromone receptor VN1R in humans.

“These results constitute compelling evidence that a pheromone effect different from normal olfactory perception indeed exists in humans”, says scent researcher Prof Hanns Hatt fro, Ruhr-University Bochum in Germany.

Hedione (chemical name methyl dihydro-jasmonate), derived from the Greek word ‘hedone’, for ‘fun’, ‘pleasure’, ‘lust’, has a pleasant fresh jasmine-magnolia scent and is used in many perfumes.

Link to article:
Revealed: the aftershave that turns women on - Telegraph

We hooked-in to this one back in the spring - there are a couple of quite extensive Hedione testing threads already going if you search.

What these articles also forget to mention is that Steve McQueen-era Eau Sauvage also contained deer musk - and that was removed from its regular formula back in the 1980s, although occasional small batches of “classic formula” did get produced up to about 2008/2009 when Animal musks were largely banned from widespread sale in EU/US-markets, so whatever is on sale now is likely based on synthetic Muscone, which whilst it may have some pheromonal properties, isn’t at all the real thing.

Hedione is a classic around here.

Mobo is right about formulation changes in colognes.

You can refer to this thread, despite the weird title, it has become the main discussion thread about hedione. You’ll find lots of information.

"Revealed: the aftershave that turns women on" - Guys, read this!

Haha well thanks for the clarification. Too bad they re-formulated it. I will check out that thread on Hedione, thank’s for the link Conjurator.

But go figure, right? We have a saying in the fitness industry “If it works, then it’s either illegal or it’s going to be”

I’ve been on the world’s strongest, most effective and most dangerous fat burner. It’s extremely illegal.

Also I’ve been on the world’s ‘closest’ alternative to that pill NZT-48 from the movie Limitless. In fact, it’s so far away from even being remotely like NZT because it only does one of the several things things NZT ‘did’ in the movie. And it is probably the least impressive of all those benefits. But hey, it gives me a RIDICULOUS advantage at work. It’s also ‘illegal’ (prescription required) and isn’t cheap.

Can’t wait to add IG, IShine and IH to this little pill and dominate my work and office :stuck_out_tongue:

A partial ban on hedione is in effect in commercial products (i.e. brand colognes) and exports. Another reason I heard was that certain persons have skin sensitivity with that product so the perfumers decided to take it out. Is it BS? Maybe in part :slight_smile:. But hedione as such is not illegal. You can find the pure stuff quite easily. My skin is ok with it, so… I use it all the time :slight_smile:.

Are you not thinking on natural oakmoss? That has been killed-off due to slightly higher than acceptable allergy/irritation issues. IIRC one of the reasons Hedione is so hugely popular in brand colognes is that registers so low on the irritation scale.

The only reason Hedione is preferred over natural Jasmine is the limitations of supply and demand and getting consistent, quality product on a world scale.

But yes, despite its ban the same applies, natural oakmoss is freely available if you hunt around - Its just not sold as a scent anymore. Pagan shops are your friend for a whole lot of these no-longer used natural scent components - Anointing oil! :wink:

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Also I’ve been on the world’s ‘closest’ alternative to that pill NZT-48 from the movie Limitless. In fact, it’s so far away from even being remotely like NZT because it only does one of the several things things NZT ‘did’ in the movie. And it is probably the least impressive of all those benefits. But hey, it gives me a RIDICULOUS advantage at work. It’s also ‘illegal’ (prescription required) and it isn’t cheap \QUOTE]

So now you have to tell us what it is I’m sure everyone is curious.

I have probably mistakened one for the other Mobo. Oakmoss is still on my to-get list :slight_smile:. That must be why. Hehe.

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Sure haha. The magic/competitive edge-in-a-bottle it is called Modafinil.

As I’m typing this, my brain is firing on all cylinders as it pumps through my veins :wink:

I get up every morning at 5:30, take 100mg of it along with 30mg of a specific Nootropic. By the time I shower and eat and hit my desk at 6, I’m cranking. I get more work done by 8 (probably when the other agents in my office are getting up), then they’ll get done all day.

Google + Youtube it and observe the storm of information and praise surrounding it. Even one business exec. (actually, a CEO I believe) claims it’s what gives him an advantage. You have no clue how many top business executives, (serial) entrepreneurs, top-performing military personnel (pilots) and probably politicians use this stuff…in addition with stacking other specific Nootropics (also something I do).

…come to think if it, they’re probably stacking Modafinil, caffeine, nootropics AND A314 haha. That combo would make you a ridiculous entrepreneur (if you’re already one by nature) or business exec/manager.

When you’re in a competitive industry or line of work, the best, brightest and most driven people are always willing to do whatever it takes to up their game even further. They’re like the steroid-injecting bodybuilders and power-lifters…but doing it to make successful companies and a ridiculous income.

What do you mean by “partial ban”? If companies can’t use this stuff at all in their colognes and what not, does that leave us with having to buy pure Hedione?

Perhaps that would be more effective anyway since colognes water things down (literally). Where is the best source of pure Hedione and are there any variations in the types/chemical structure I should be aware of? I am interested in buying some and if I buy pure, will I have to mix it in with a cologne or can apply directly to skin and stack with other mones?

Buy pure, apply pure. That’s the mess-free and scentless way to go in my opinion. Google around and you’ll find hedione to buy quite easily.

I tried stacking and separate application, I don’t see much difference between the two up to now.

Partial ban, cause in some cases, it can vary depending on the country where a given cologne is actually exported or where its produced. Might be total though.

That ban on deer musk does not apply to many Middle East countries. Their governments did not sign the treaty. They proudly advertise it as a fragrance ingredient in Abu Dhabi for example.

Very interesting information. When I wear Hedione, if I sweat at the location it is sprayed on, I will feel a burning tingling sensation, what I would compare to as a menthol burning. But it doesn’t really bother me. I imagine this is what they mean.

Modafinil is crazy good!
Man that stuff literally had me acing tests in college with much less study.

Ok ok, now you guys have me interested in deer musk and oakmoss. I’m wondering how I can add this in my pheromone stack and what I can expect from it.